Unbiased Poll about The Pride of Albion vs multiple ships - Part II

[Shalom_Don]

@ egosoft

Sorry Guys i have canceld my pro orders of x rebirth. After i can't find any information that you will patch multiple ships in x Rebirth with an add on or such a thing.

If've waited a long time, was happy by your great work, but as i know that every player of x rebirth will only have on ship, ist is and will still over.

I will buy x rebirth in a few years becaouse it is x but thats all.

I'm sorry, it seems to be that im a dino / konservative player but with only one ship, i must switch to another coming up Space sim and wait for there start.

I'm still on a ergosoft fanboy i will play on all other x games but not rebirth with only one ship to drive, become 100 or more houres to see the same ship texture. it's a no go.

Geetrings and i hope, you (egosoft) will have success with this new x game.

Hope to buy the next game after x rebirth with multiple ship to fly.

[xleto2]

Wrong. He says the player can not *fit* them all because of their size, which he confirms a few lines later.

So you ignore the part when Bernd said capital drones are a completely different topic and that he didn't talk about them up to that point.

Just like you disregard the dictionary when it says drones are ships, and you ignore Bernd again when he said you could still fly other ships using VR.

[Slashman]

Up to this point, the only ships that are pilotable through VR are the drones launched from the playership as far as I know.

I don't see any information stating otherwise. If the drones aren't based on your ship, I don't think you can pilot them. If the ships are the size of the Skunk(corvette), then they will have a crew. I don't think they would appreciate you VRing into their control systems and driving for them.

[foxtrot76]

I am very uneasy with the one-ship concept to the point that I am seriously considering to cancel my pre-order.

The variety of flying different ships is a major factor for me, it gives me satisfaction to be able to fly my brand new carrier/frigate/M0 into battle after having saved up for it with countless hours of gameplay. It allows me to adapt the game pace to my current mood and attention span.
Everything else looks great, but limiting me to one ship is a deal breaker for me.

I wish Egosoft all the best with their new game.

[Ravenhurst]

I am very uneasy with the one-ship concept to the point that I am seriously considering to cancel my pre-order.

The variety of flying different ships is a major factor for me, it gives me satisfaction to be able to fly my brand new carrier/frigate/M0 into battle after having saved up for it with countless hours of gameplay. It allows me to adapt the game pace to my current mood and attention span.
Everything else looks great, but limiting me to one ship is a deal breaker for me.

I wish Egosoft all the best with their new game.

so.. which feature would you sacrifice to get more ships instead?

The versatility of launching countless different drones?
The walking on stations and docking feature?

[foxtrot76]

I am very uneasy with the one-ship concept to the point that I am seriously considering to cancel my pre-order.

The variety of flying different ships is a major factor for me, it gives me satisfaction to be able to fly my brand new carrier/frigate/M0 into battle after having saved up for it with countless hours of gameplay. It allows me to adapt the game pace to my current mood and attention span.
Everything else looks great, but limiting me to one ship is a deal breaker for me.

I wish Egosoft all the best with their new game.

so.. which feature would you sacrifice to get more ships instead?

The versatility of launching countless different drones?
The walking on stations and docking feature?

In an ideal world none of them. I won't pretend to be involved with the 7 year development therefore my opinion about what features to sacrifice is totally irrelevant. All I was stating is my personal opinion as a customer about the one-ship limitation.

[Inverness]

We want it that way just fine.

That is to say the nonspecific, arbitrarily exclusive collective I choose to include with myself in order to permit the usage of the plural 'we' rather than the singular 'I' thus lending an air or credibility to my assertions.

Funny you should post that on a poll with very clear numbers right up the top of the page there.

First of all, the poll includes people who care enough to vote on polls on a forum, which is an extreme minority,.

Second of all, the people who don't like what they've heard about the Rebirth will always complain the most.

Finally, the poll itself is a false dichotomy that is clearly biased (despite what the title would have you believe).

[Slashman]

First of all, the poll includes people who care enough to vote on polls on a forum, which is an extreme minority,.

Second of all, the people who don't like what they've heard about the Rebirth will always complain the most.

Finally, the poll itself is a false dichotomy that is clearly biased (despite what the title would have you believe).

I've seen several complaints in other forums about the single ship concept. No polls involved though.

And as to what someone would sacrifice for more ships to fly? I'd sacrifice a forced, linear plot which relies on a specific, single ship to make sense.

I'd sacrifice walking around on my ship. Walking on stations is fine. It's the walking on the ship that makes the whole multi-ship approach less easy to do.

[Earth Ultimatum IV.]

Theoretically, there are more player ships.
Not only the Skunk. You can still dock at capital ship and give orders to the captain, commanding the ship from inside.
So, every capital ship is a possible player ship.

[Geek]

So, every capital ship is a possible player ship.

Even if you can command a capital from the inside, it does not mean you can access the full range of features of the Albion - ie VR, drones, boarding...
So it does not qualify as playership.

[Earth Ultimatum IV.]

So, every capital ship is a possible player ship.

Even if you can command a capital from the inside, it does not mean you can access the full range of features of the Albion - ie VR, drones, boarding...
So it does not qualify as playership.

So? I don´t care about boarding/dumb drones.
After getting a cap ship, I want to command it from inside and I want to manage my empire from the safe heaven of my capital ship.

[Geek]

Wow. So you want to buy a simulation game where you will not fly anything ?
Your choice I guess.

[Slashman]

So? I don´t care about boarding/dumb drones.
After getting a cap ship, I want to command it from inside and I want to manage my empire from the safe heaven of my capital ship.

The problem is, of course, you still need to use the Skunk for plot missions and especially for missions involving drones. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that there will be missions where you can't use anything else but the Skunk.

[Earth Ultimatum IV.]

So? I don´t care about boarding/dumb drones.
After getting a cap ship, I want to command it from inside and I want to manage my empire from the safe heaven of my capital ship.

The problem is, of course, you still need to use the Skunk for plot missions and especially for missions involving drones. I don't think it is out of the realm of possibility that there will be missions where you can't use anything else but the Skunk.

Not a real problem.
All I want is to be able to spend most of my time in a cap ship, commanding my empire.

[Slashman]

Not a real problem.
All I want is to be able to spend most of my time in a cap ship, commanding my empire.

Most of the interface for that is tied to the Skunk and your co-pilot. So I'm not sure how that will work out for you. Good luck!

[Tigerhawk71]

Haven't signed into my account in a long time.

Signing in just to vote that this change annoys me and has put me from 100% wanting this game to teetering on the fence.

I think that flying around in a larger ship (or just cruising a sector in it) was one of the more enjoyable things about X3 and i'm clearly not alone. Just remember egosoft that "boring" isn't a universal thing.

[Stellen]

so.. which feature would you sacrifice to get more ships instead?

The versatility of launching countless different drones?
The walking on stations and docking feature?

I'd happily sacrifice both of those features to get more ships, personally. I can't see the walking around stations being anything more than either:

• - a novelty feature, which you do once or twice to try it out, but skip past it from then on;
  - a nuisance, spending 30 seconds running down a hallway before you can buy your solar cells might seem engaging the first few times, but by the 50th time it'll be nothing but a chore if you can't skip past it; or
  - a bad attempt of trying to be Mass Effect.

I remember X2. I remember those cut scenes, and the dialogue, and as much as I loved that games, and all the games which followed it, those scenes were cringe-worthy.

[ZzZGuy]

I'm somewhat put off by the one personal ship deal but I think they have a chance to make it work.

There is also mention of commanding (not piloting) from the bridge of a capital. If you can effectively command, travel, view the outside world and issue orders from the bridge then I'll be cruising around in a destroyer/carrier with my escort fleet, undocking to make "personal" runs to various spots out of the way.

The way I play I attempt to take control of hostile sectors and turn one into my "home" sector (lots of mods) to clear the way for shipping for my trade fleet. I end up jumping into a system in my fighter and trying not to die while I watch my ships engage enemies.

So instead of trying to capture that awesome xenon fighter for my personal ship my goal is further down the line to get my own capital. But variety is the spice of life, plz give us more personal ships with the detail of the Albion at some point egosoft.

[Henkie]

Egosoft listens to their players. Right now the most important thing is to get a solid game. Flying other ships can be an update/expansion feature.

Maybe they removed the flying other ships feature because they felt it was no fun flying them? We all have to wait to see and feel what every ship is about before we can decide if we really want to fly them ourselfs.. A capital ship that only sits on a fixed spot while the turrets shoot targets is not my definition of fun

[DaMuncha]

Thats for us to decide