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Re: System requirements

Post by TemporalAnomaly » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 02:31

I have been persisting with my 2600k for far too long, putting off the inevitable upgrade... looking at "sys reqs" for X4, I bit the bullet...

So I bench my new system (i5-9600k, 1070ti, 16gb ram etc) on that site mentioned earlier...


Says it is a UFO, must be good for X4 right? :x3: :xenon:

From "Guru3d"
"The Core i5 9600K on its end is the entry-level product with a boost towards 4.6 GHz And with six logical cores, this might become a very attractive gaming processor. I know some are a bit wary about this processor, but guys, gaming wise it does a great job thanks to the high clock frequencies. Also, You'll be able to tweak this puppy towards at least 5.0 GHz on all six cores."


been playing some older games on "ultra" getting great FPS....

5 days...
Rehab is for Quitters!

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Re: System requirements

Post by AdrianB1 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:08

pref wrote:
Sun, 25. Nov 18, 23:30
FX-8350 [...]
Could be nice to get an AMD min req and recommendation, its a bit hard to compare with intels.
Not that simple: there are differences in the architecture (IPC), frequency, core number and the Spectre/Meltdown patches that makes it very hard to provide recommendations without testing each generation of processors and make some chart.

If you take a modern (gen 8) Intel CPU as the basis for the comparisor, an Ryzen 1 or 2 (still AMD) is about 85-95% of the IPC and FX-8350 is about 50-60%. That makes your CPU almost 2 times slower than a modern Intel, but ... with Spectre & Meltdown patches an Intel CPU is also as much as 30% slower in some operations versus the unpatched one. How much is the gave using those slow operations? Is the recommendation based on patched or unpatched platforms? What if you put a faster GPU? What is the impact of slower DDR3 versus modern DDR4?

You can go with these questions a long way, but building the min and recommended specs is not a science and it does not bring guarantees. You may be able to play with decent framerate (over 40) or not, the only way to know is to try or to find someone with your configuration to try and tell.

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Re: System requirements

Post by eisberg1977 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:24

When they say 16GB of RAM for recommended, they mean installed RAM? not free RAM?
For my system I use up 2GB of ram, so that leaves me about 14GB of ram.

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Re: System requirements

Post by Drzator » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:34

pref wrote:
Sun, 25. Nov 18, 23:30
Did a quick check, i found an XR save..
FX-8350 got down till 17 fps in an OL zone with more then avg capship count. Don't think it could handle X4 that well, even though avg benchmarks put it above the min req.
8700 runs at 50-60 fps with 1.3 view distance instead of 1 from same save, same GPU.

Could be nice to get an AMD min req and recommendation, its a bit hard to compare with intels.
"smallest" 4 core or maybe 2+2 ryzen is close to i5-4590.

Bit off, somthing interesting hepning:
Mainstrem CPU are real, 6+6 core AMD and 6 core Intel: Frostbite engine cen hendle ~100 FPS and more on this 2 CPUs, also OC HI-END 4+4 CPUs, ppl complain whit HI-END 4 core CPUs -not enought juice.

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Re: System requirements

Post by Drzator » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:35

Drzator wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:34
pref wrote:
Sun, 25. Nov 18, 23:30
Did a quick check, i found an XR save..
FX-8350 got down till 17 fps in an OL zone with more then avg capship count. Don't think it could handle X4 that well, even though avg benchmarks put it above the min req.
8700 runs at 50-60 fps with 1.3 view distance instead of 1 from same save, same GPU.

Could be nice to get an AMD min req and recommendation, its a bit hard to compare with intels.
"smallest" 4 core or maybe 2+2 ryzen is close to i5-4590.

Bit off, somthing interesting hepning:
Mainstrem CPU are real, 6+6 core AMD and 6 core Intel: Frostbite engine cen hendle ~100 FPS and more on this 2 CPUs, also OC HI-END 4+4 CPUs, ppl complain whit OC HI-END 4 core CPUs -not enought juice.
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Re: System requirements

Post by Alci » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:54

Drzator wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:35
OC HI-END 4+4 CPUs, ppl complain whit OC HI-END 4 core CPUs -not enought juice.
good question what does it use the power for. So it's not like (another EA game) Crysis 2/3 where they tried to use tessellation so badly they've used it solely on traffic panels so they could say "we support it" and you could be happy with 3m polygon traffic panels.

From what I've read BF was working fine until some random upgrade making it suddenly consume 100% CPU and halved FPS.

Not sure what's the deal with that, but 6 cores is hell of a power to consume. And it better not be wasted because of lousy dev job and inability to do inverse kinematics on flat surface right.

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Re: System requirements

Post by Drzator » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 12:06

IDK whats goingon in beckgound, but we have proof that engine no need to rely on hi core performance, raw performance works great on taht engine. Even OC FX 8350 cen do 50-60 fps :lol: .

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Re: System requirements

Post by pjknibbs » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 12:54

eisberg1977 wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 11:24
When they say 16GB of RAM for recommended, they mean installed RAM? not free RAM?
For my system I use up 2GB of ram, so that leaves me about 14GB of ram.
I have never in my life seen a recommended or minimum spec that didn't mean "installed RAM" rather than free RAM. Windows and other stuff using 1-2Gb of RAM is entirely expected, these days.

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Re: System requirements

Post by Steel » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:27

peschinl wrote:
Sat, 10. Nov 18, 17:18
yeah Im in the same boat, have a i5 4xxx, and a 970 is a bit too near the minimum requirements, so I wont be pre-ordering. Im only intrested in 1080p, do wonder if the requirements are for VR?
I have been playing the current beta with a GTX 970 4GB, 1920 res, i7-4790k CPU and 16GB Ram on Windows 7 and it runs on "high" settings fine for me. If that helps.

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Re: System requirements

Post by tvdbosch » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:36

I7 2700K 5.0Ghz, 16GB RAM, Vega64 should be good to go right? 4K with everything on I hope!!

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Re: System requirements

Post by nemesis1982 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:39

Steel wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:27
peschinl wrote:
Sat, 10. Nov 18, 17:18
yeah Im in the same boat, have a i5 4xxx, and a 970 is a bit too near the minimum requirements, so I wont be pre-ordering. Im only intrested in 1080p, do wonder if the requirements are for VR?
I have been playing the current beta with a GTX 970 4GB, 1920 res, i7-4790k CPU and 16GB Ram on Windows 7 and it runs on "high" settings fine for me. If that helps.
It would help if you could provide a average frames per second ballpark (15,30,45,60 FPS?)
Save game editor XR and CAT/DAT Extractor
Keep in mind that it's still a work in progress although it's taking shape nicely.

If anyone is interested in a new save game editor for X4 and would like to contribute to the creation of one let me know. I do not have sufficient time to create it alone, but if there are enough people who want it and want to contribute we might be able to set something up.

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Re: System requirements

Post by foxxbl » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:45

Thanks for the tweet, and sorry about your setup.. Looks you will need to upgrade anytime soon.
Now I have more confidence that my 4GB GTX 960 will be OK for X4. Lets see for real on Friday ;)

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Re: System requirements

Post by neofit26 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 14:30

Steel wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 13:27
I have been playing the current beta with a GTX 970 4GB, 1920 res, i7-4790k CPU and 16GB Ram on Windows 7 and it runs on "high" settings fine for me. If that helps.
Man, this is exactly my system, except for Win 10 instead of 7. Are "High" settings the highest, or barely above "medium" with like "Super", "Ultra" and "Ultimate" above? :)

Also, do you have a way to see if the game at these settings is saturating the CPU or the graphics card?

I keep alternating my upgrades between the releases of the X and Arma games, but since nothing has challenged this system for a few years, I'd rather avoid paying big bucks atm. I remember how upgrading the CPU for one of the X games gave me a significant CPU boost. While moving from a 970 to a 2070 will give a +113% boost according to userbenchmark.com, which is quite tempting, if our i7-4790k's are already at 100% we won't see a difference.

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Re: System requirements

Post by pref » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 18:20

neofit26 wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 14:30
While moving from a 970 to a 2070 will give a +113% boost according to userbenchmark.com, which is quite tempting, if our i7-4790k's are already at 100% we won't see a difference.
Not sure that's needed, XR usually doesn't even reach 50% utilisation on a 1070 here on ultra.

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Re: System requirements

Post by 101khazaddum » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 18:41

any advice plz

CPU Type Intel Core i7-2600K @ 3.40GHz
CPU Measured Speed 3.41 GHz [Turbo: 3.71 GHz]
Motherboard P8Z68-V PRO
Memory 16GB , Crucial Technology BLS4G3D18ADS3.16FE
Video Card Tested Radeon HD 7870
Hard Drive Tested SanDisk SDSSDXPS480G (480 GB)

Passmark score 4334

https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V8/d ... 1514939411

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Re: System requirements

Post by Zobaken » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 19:06

Will X4 require AVX/AVX2 instructions as mandatory? :?

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Re: System requirements

Post by Aron » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 19:10

Question about the (future) Linux build of X4... I pre-ordered from Egosoft and activated on Steam... Will the Linux version be the same? Or will it require another type of key or whatever?

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Re: System requirements

Post by DanielCoffey67 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 19:44

Aron wrote:
Mon, 26. Nov 18, 19:10
Question about the (future) Linux build of X4...
It should be exactly the same. One Steam key grants access to all the platforms on Steam that the game is available on.
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Re: System requirements

Post by Dragon1986 » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 20:41

Is my system still in order, for X4 Foundations?
Sorry is a Google translation.

- CPU: AMD FX 6100 3,3 GHz
- GPU: AMD R9 390 8 GB
- RAM: 16 GB

I thank you in advance

Dragon1986

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Re: System requirements

Post by Kal DhuAlan » Mon, 26. Nov 18, 23:21

CPU is likely my weak spot, as on a H87i plus mobo, limited to 4th gen cpus.

Currently:
CPU I5 4690 3.50Ghz
Mem: 16GB DDR3
GPU Gigabyte g1 rev2 1060 6GB
Win 7 home premium 64bit

only need o hit 1080p 60 as running it onto a 42" Sony bravia TV.

Dusted off my old reliable Saitek Cyborg evo wirelss stick, and need to get voice attack trained up.

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