[POLL] Give the Kha'ak some purple love!

[Riccardoman]

Since X2 I always thought that the most dangerous and threatening race in the X universe were the Kha'ak

It doesn't seem so from the developers, because they are present in every game but often undeveloped

I personally would really love an expansion of some sort about their lore, their own economy, new ships and stations

What do you think?

Gimme those parple lazers!

[Goldfinch]

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A TC plot has you wipe them out, obviously not entirely successfully but it explains why they aren't such a big threat afterwards.

As for why they aren't developed more as a race - maybe there isn't more to them. They're presented as insect hives and might not be independently conscious. They respond to perceived threats, they swarm and die in droves, but they have nothing to drive them to develop alternative ships for the same role, or initiate diplomacy (if they're even capable of it).

I'm not sure what the canon stance on this is but they might not even be sentient. There's a really good novel called Blindsight by Peter Watts which describes an alien race how I think of the Khaak.

[mythal01]

Keep your sci-fi books on the shelf.
This is X.
We need serious threats of alien invasions.
Kha'ak are an incredibly cool race and threat.
So - make them a threat. I'm interested in gameplay not philosophizing about lore on the forums..........(thats fun, but not at the expense of gameplay)

[Cabrelbeuk]

No need to get more ennemies. Khaak can be developped behond tetraèdre of death. Xenon can enhance themselve to another form (why not some android thingy ?). Lot to develop actually.

[Axeface]

I would like to see them get their capital ships back at least. I'de like to see updated designs for them too. They are a great enemy.

[Riccardoman]

Just to show the huge potential this race has design wise

PS: its from an X3 mod

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[SpaceCake]

Guy, hear me out. What if the Xenon makes a big comeback... as anime girls? Just throwing it out there.

[Riccardoman]

Guy, hear me out. What if the Xenon makes a big comeback... as anime girls? Just throwing it out there.

Sure, if you like this idea you can do another poll about that

[SpaceCake]

Christ. I meant to write Kha'ak. Could work too though tbh.

[Goldfinch]

Keep your sci-fi books on the shelf.
This is X.
We need serious threats of alien invasions.
Kha'ak are an incredibly cool race and threat.
So - make them a threat. I'm interested in gameplay not philosophizing about lore on the forums..........(thats fun, but not at the expense of gameplay)

Hey, the OP asked about lore. They don't need more ship designs ripped from Babylon 5 to be interesting.

[Arze]

Technically the Khaak got genocided to oblivion and the khaak we see today are only remnants without queens, no? How many years passed since TC in universe? And they are yet to make a queen, seems they can't make a new one so they are dead. No point fluffing up the timeline just to make them strong again. NOW! If a new type of khaak comes out to be a threat they either should use a different shape for their building blocks, or they at least have to have a different base color to show its a different genus of khaak. Else its screws up the timeline. I'm all for making enemies strong. But make it fair, and make it work.

[plynak]

All I want is Khaaks that actualy attack me. So far, they just fly around and let themselves shot to oblivion

[Axeface]

Technically the Khaak got genocided to oblivion and the khaak we see today are only remnants without queens, no? How many years passed since TC in universe? And they are yet to make a queen, seems they can't make a new one so they are dead. No point fluffing up the timeline just to make them strong again. NOW! If a new type of khaak comes out to be a threat they either should use a different shape for their building blocks, or they at least have to have a different base color to show its a different genus of khaak. Else its screws up the timeline. I'm all for making enemies strong. But make it fair, and make it work.

To say that Operation Final Fury wiped out an entire race is a bit of a stretch. Ide say its perfectly accepted to just have a resurgence without much explanation.
Kha'ak are also one of the only ways ide accept ship 'spawns' (the only other way being a station/fleet spawn if a faction gets all their assets destroyed). They are supposed to have crazy jumpdrive tech right? Could be a menace without a source for the game.

Oh, also... any reason why Kha'ak in X4 dont use clusters? They were very cool too.

[weller009]

Exploding Khaak everywhere!

[Arze]

Technically the Khaak got genocided to oblivion and the khaak we see today are only remnants without queens, no? How many years passed since TC in universe? And they are yet to make a queen, seems they can't make a new one so they are dead. No point fluffing up the timeline just to make them strong again. NOW! If a new type of khaak comes out to be a threat they either should use a different shape for their building blocks, or they at least have to have a different base color to show its a different genus of khaak. Else its screws up the timeline. I'm all for making enemies strong. But make it fair, and make it work.

To say that Operation Final Fury wiped out an entire race is a bit of a stretch. Ide say its perfectly accepted to just have a resurgence without much explanation.
Kha'ak are also one of the only ways ide accept ship 'spawns' (the only other way being a station/fleet spawn if a faction gets all their assets destroyed). They are supposed to have crazy jumpdrive tech right? Could be a menace without a source for the game.

Oh, also... any reason why Kha'ak in X4 dont use clusters? They were very cool too.

Well if you put it that way I thought the idea of the TC mission was to kill them all at once or at least the hive mind.

Also yes! Why are they not in clusters? That was their whole shtick wasn't it? I remember my first time meeting one of those and I was like look this idiot just gets shot at what the hell is this triangle trash? And then Boom they came apart and said: "Hey! Is this the soap you dropped?" and proceeded to brutalize me and my arrogance. it was fun!

Though considering the shape the game in general is we might see a resurgence of their proper behavior at some point. Even though the Xenon already builds their puny ships, the Khaak station is still inactive so maybe?

[DeFragMe]

Technically the Khaak got genocided to oblivion and the khaak we see today are only remnants without queens, no? How many years passed since TC in universe? And they are yet to make a queen, seems they can't make a new one so they are dead. No point fluffing up the timeline just to make them strong again. NOW! If a new type of khaak comes out to be a threat they either should use a different shape for their building blocks, or they at least have to have a different base color to show its a different genus of khaak. Else its screws up the timeline. I'm all for making enemies strong. But make it fair, and make it work.

To say that Operation Final Fury wiped out an entire race is a bit of a stretch. Ide say its perfectly accepted to just have a resurgence without much explanation.
Kha'ak are also one of the only ways ide accept ship 'spawns' (the only other way being a station/fleet spawn if a faction gets all their assets destroyed). They are supposed to have crazy jumpdrive tech right? Could be a menace without a source for the game.

Oh, also... any reason why Kha'ak in X4 dont use clusters? They were very cool too.

well, i havent played TC in quite a while, but Final Furry was if i remmeber right just a strik in the hearth of the enemies base to kill the queen (with a lot of lost ships to gama Kyon emitters). And if we go the route of hives... in most cases of "hives" the queen can be remade. depending on the kind of hive, with alot of lost units, or quite a internall struggle because there are more than one.
And since alot of time has passed between X3TC and X4, i personally would think they would have a new one, especially since in X4 they seem to be alot more agressive again compared to X3AP, where they where basically non existing, and with no gates and real jump technology , noone could bother the hive for a long time.

but maybe iam just imaging to much stuff into it ... iam just missing the good old Khaak capitals and M6s.

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PS: I forgot to write, the ships flying, are sometimes called "Queens guard" etc... who knows, maybe a comming plot since they can jump freely? maybe they got some revange in the old military sector, who knows... or just imagination, since i love those ships and weapons

[Tomonor]

Final Fury was an inside job

[Tharrg]

Just been re-reading Joel Shepherd's Spiral Wars books, so really keen on some Kha'ak action.

[mr.WHO]

I might be wrong, but Final Fury was to wipe out the franment of Khaak race that was invading X3 space. They were not the entire Khaak race, but all the rest exist outside of know gate network (Ancients didn't intented the Khaak to meet other races as they are very hostile).

Personally I'd prefere fist to expand Xenons and they have their own space and litte economy.

[DeFragMe]

Personally I'd prefere fist to expand Xenons and they have their own space and litte economy.

i would partly say yes, but still, we now had X3AP and X:R basically fully for the Xenon storyline. and the X4 already started again only with Xenon as partly story (the guild quest) and the khaak not even mentioned, at least a side story, some extra to them, would be nice after all those years missing them.
Even in X3TC where the Final Furry took place, most of the story parts where about Xenon and terrans and getting wares for a greedy little boron.