My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by Axeface » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 00:34

The changelog in 4.0 is impressive and quite a few of the things I've asked for here have been implemented, gonna take a while to get through all the new features and there seems to be a lot of undocumented things too but the one I love the most is the external view change, its so nice to be able to watch things explode! The other huge one is of course HQ relocation, thats a very big one for me and will vastly improve my enjoyment of the game. One undocumented change that is awesome, you increased the brightness of lights in the ship build/redesign menu, this was sorely needed! Thank you for your continued work on X4 Egosoft.

Edit: Oh, and lots more stuff has been added the the encyclopaedia correct? Race descriptions, descriptions for the factions? Really important stuff.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by Stoats not Goats » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32

Axeface wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 00:34
Edit: Oh, and lots more stuff has been added the the encyclopaedia correct? Race descriptions, descriptions for the factions? Really important stuff.
From unpacking catalogue 9 all factions have updated racial and factional descriptions
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. Although for whatever reason only the Paranid and Argon Racial descriptions are displayed in the encyclopaedia despite being included in the Language xml files. Additionally, some encyclopedia descriptions update based on what options you choose in the Paranid and Split plots.
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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by aurumgallente » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 07:49

I'm glad to see that not only I want passenger transports and people imagine it in pretty much the same way.

The problem is X galaxy looks in somewhat artificial, players can clearly see straight line "whatever -> ship production" when in "real" life spacecraft, car, plains are only tools to achieve something else. A good way to make X universe more interesting is to add passenger transporting in a proper way, not like in vanilla X2/X3. From my perspective (loyal to franchise player and modmaker) it should look like this:

- add at least 1 special ship to each race for passenger transporting
- add missions to transport passengers from one station to another
- add an option for default behavior for automatic passenger transportation, it should generate profit depending on the situation in a sector. If station is under attack, there should be more passengers willing to leave a station
- add pirate missions to bring passengers and sell them as slaves
- workforce shouldn't be created from nothing, workers should use passenger ships to arrive and employer should have an ability to move them between factories
- arrived passengers should have random skills so player can catch some of them in the dock and hire

And what is the most important, passengers should not teleport in and out from the ship like they do in 3.30 (I already reported a bug about that), it should look like a real airport where people move between elevator and spaceship because now it looks dead.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by Axeface » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 11:47

Stoats not Goats wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32
Axeface wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 00:34
Edit: Oh, and lots more stuff has been added the the encyclopaedia correct? Race descriptions, descriptions for the factions? Really important stuff.
From unpacking catalogue 9 all factions have updated racial and factional descriptions
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(including definitions for the upcoming factions from CoH)
. Although for whatever reason only the Paranid and Argon Racial descriptions are displayed in the encyclopaedia despite being included in the Language xml files. Additionally, some encyclopedia descriptions update based on what options you choose in the Paranid and Split plots.
I dont suppose the Boron are in there, are they? 8)

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by chew-ie » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 11:49

Axeface wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 11:47
Stoats not Goats wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32
Axeface wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 00:34
Edit: Oh, and lots more stuff has been added the the encyclopaedia correct? Race descriptions, descriptions for the factions? Really important stuff.
From unpacking catalogue 9 [..]
I dont suppose the Boron are in there, are they? 8)
A certain egosoft dev already said that leaking & borons is something they are trying to avoid. :P

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by CBJ » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 12:26

Stoats not Goats wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32
Although for whatever reason only the Paranid and Argon Racial descriptions are displayed in the encyclopaedia despite being included in the Language xml files. Additionally, some encyclopedia descriptions update based on what options you choose in the Paranid and Split plots.
Descriptions should be shown for whatever races you have encountered in any given game, i.e. all those that are listed in the encyclopedia. If you're saying there are races listed which don't show descriptions, or races not shown at all which you have definitely encountered in your current game, then please make a bug report with information on how to reproduce it.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by xant » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 13:45

My wish for 4.0 and beyond: give us an option to tone down/disable the encounter mechanism. I understand why it is there, and there are times I enjoy it, but just as many times I don't enjoy it. And given that it was a deliberate decision to remove jump drives from the game, it makes sense to adhere to the spirit of this very decision and not having countless ships jumping all over the place. (especially now that the Khaak are more active, it feels a little bit over the top if I may say so)

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by mr.WHO » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 15:46

Stoats not Goats wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32
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Care to share the name of those factions? of course with spoiler tag.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by xant » Fri, 20. Nov 20, 16:21

mr.WHO wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 15:46
Stoats not Goats wrote:
Fri, 20. Nov 20, 06:32
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Care to share the name of those factions? of course with spoiler tag.
Sure, here you are:
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Yaki - Well... arrr, pirrrates!

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by darklead » Sun, 22. Nov 20, 15:25

Impressive work, Egosoft! A couple of wishes. We really need a redesigned ship interface (when you're in the cockpit)
Now the message box, map and target information hide 30% of the screen, the eyes get tired of looking at these things that obscure the beauty of space. We lose a lot of impressions because we don't see what's behind these menus. I understand that this is already part 4, but still, I would like, if possible, optional, to use the same interface as in x3 or similar, it was minimalistic and informative. And it's time to get away from text messages and information at an angle at the bottom of the screen. We no longer have an Albion skun with its monitors.
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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by nuclearphys » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 07:02

Am I only one who misses video goggles so much? Are there any plans to bring them back at some point?

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by atavistuk » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 13:23

What are Video Goggles?

Is that something from X:BtF or X2?

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by Alan Phipps » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 13:26

A GUI facility that zooms/magnifies the line-of-sight view seen out of the cockpit and keeps zooming while you hold down the button, and then reverts to normal after a while once you let the button go. No need to go to a different camera view. Used in the X2/X3 games, IIRC.
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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by Buzz2005 » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 13:41

not the goggles but with F4 external view you can zoom in or out
Fixed ships getting spawned away from ship configuration menu at resupply ships from automatically getting deployables.

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by atavistuk » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 13:46

I must have played thousands of hours of X3:TC and never came across Video Goggles! Assuming they were a ware from a EQ Dock probably bought them and never used them, hahaha!

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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by jlehtone » Thu, 26. Nov 20, 14:39

atavistuk wrote:
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Video Goggles! Assuming they were a ware from a EQ Dock
Yes. Boron and Teladi Docks. Video Enhancement Goggles. About 5k cr.
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Re: My wishlist for 4.0 and beyond.

Post by atavistuk » Mon, 30. Nov 20, 21:25

One thing I would like added, and it's a relatively small one, but vitally important in my opinion:

Scout For Enemies option for Scout Ship Fleet Subordinates.

Basically they roam around the sector you have a fleet parked in, depending on the fleets orders, and it just... looks for enemy ships. When it finds one, then the commander assigns attack orders to the fleet to combat the ship or ships the scout has found. The scout will try to maintain radar contact with the enemy ship/s and if attacked will specifically flee towards the fleet commander.

No idea how difficult that would be to implement, but it'd be nice to have patrolling fleets be a little more reactive to hostile enemies in sector. Preferably they'd just go fight whatever attacks a friendly asset in the same sector radar range be damned, but I also like the scout ship idea, because then things like the Kestrel and Jaguar would have a use in a fleet setting.

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