Player Wharves aren't doing anything

Wilee Darklight · Post by **Wilee Darklight** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 09:23

Hey guys. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here.. I have 2 Wharves built in different sectors and neither are building ships for either myself or other factions. This is my first run with having a wharf or shipyard, so I'm not sure if I'm just missing something or what.

I've made sure that;
-the stations have managers
-the stations have a ship trader
-they are well stocked with materials (build ship page doesn't have orange complaints in the bottom right anymore)
-they have tons of storage
-I have a workforce
-I have a handful of ship blueprints
-I have at least one or two of each type of ship parts required to make a ship flyable

Yet I still get a bunch of "Unknown Ships" that don't build in the queue, and when I try to make my own, they jump to the front of the queue, but they never start building.

Any idea what the heck I'm missing?

Gavrushka · Post by **Gavrushka** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 09:48

Assuming your game is unmodded, do you want to supply a link to an uploaded save for someone to try. - I've a wharf/shipyard building well in Argon Prime, and I'll link you to a save to see if there's anything different. - (Note trade rule at wharf is set for my faction only, but trade rule 2 will let other Argon factions build, and build like crazy they do.)

My latest game save (OneDrive, advertising/delay free:) https://1drv.ms/u/s!AnoYsE1M89YryWSefWd ... 5?e=kCvYrQ

(Note: if you have an issue building with my save, try verify/repair of game install (assuming you're unmodded.))

Post by **Tamina** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 10:01

Do you have drones?

EGO_Aut · Post by **EGO_Aut** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 13:16

Ship blueprints alone isnot enough. You also need faction subsystems and guns aso.
Argons will not order discoverer with PAR engines, you need ARG.

And like Tamina mentioned, you need builder drones.

Rei Ayanami · Post by **Rei Ayanami** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 13:56

Wilee Darklight wrote: ↑
Sun, 13. Sep 20, 09:23
Yet I still get a bunch of "Unknown Ships" that don't build in the queue, and when I try to make my own, they jump to the front of the queue, but they never start building.

The "unknown ship" thing can be ignored. The ship will receive its proper name and designation once it has been fully built.

And yes, as others have mentioned, you need building drones to make the buillding process start... and I recommend getting a LOT of building drones, higher numbers speed up the building process (and therefore your profit) by a lot.

Also, your customers have very specific blueprint requirements for buying ships from you. For example, if the Argons want a ship with tracking turrets, yet you only have beam turrent blueprints, they won't buy from you, at least as far as I know.

KopiG · Post by **KopiG** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 15:15

S/M Wharves: 8 parallel builds all requiring 10 drones each so 80 in total
L Shipyard: 1 parallel build slot requiring 20 drones
XL Shipyard: 1 parallel build slot requiring 40 or 50 drones drones (dont remember but in game when you need to build it it will say)

Wilee Darklight · Post by **Wilee Darklight** » Sun, 13. Sep 20, 18:15

Thanks for the replies guys! Lots of good info here.

Interesting... so the S/M still needs drones to build, eh? That I didn't know. Okay.

And thanks, Gavrushka, for the save file. I'll definitely set this up to compare what's going on there vs what I've got.

"Argons will not order discoverer with PAR engines, you need ARG." - this is news to me. That does make sense in some fashion, but I had no idea the faction of the parts mattered.

I'll give these suggestions a shot and get back to you all about how I fare. Thanks again!!

Buzz2005 · Post by **Buzz2005** » Tue, 15. Sep 20, 20:04

nobody mentioned blueprints for consumables (drones, probes, laser towers etc), bc without those nobody will order

Wilee Darklight · Post by **Wilee Darklight** » Wed, 16. Sep 20, 20:12

Turns out drones were the problem! Well, for one of my stations at least. The other seems to be having a workforce problem. It's fluctuating in workforce % so I assume that's why that one still won't build. But the other is working gloriously now.

Buzz2005 · Post by **Buzz2005** » Thu, 17. Sep 20, 09:05

workforce is not a factor, ai will build regardless, the fluctuations are bc they are being assigned to ships

Max Bain · Post by **Max Bain** » Thu, 17. Sep 20, 09:57

I made a bug report because of this long ago but it was ignored. The game lacks information about the things that are missing. It only shows the main parts for turrets and other modules but not if an npc wants to buy a ship with satellites or drones. Than u don't know why it is on pause.

Nort The Fragrent · Post by **Nort The Fragrent** » Sat, 19. Sep 20, 19:14

This thread again hi-lights the need for ( Whats missing ) help.
These hidden error’s in the game are so frustrating.
Why not have in the Station overview, a whats wrong help message pop up.
Then you would know what to fix, to get things working !

One of the largest parts of programming is error checking, so to get the program to work.

This same approach needs to be applied to the game play functionality.
Alerting the player as to what is wrong!

Not ignore the problem, and let the player get frustrated .

Pull your socks up ES.

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