[Poll]Do you like Odysseus's shape?

[Pares]

The "handhold" of the "hairdryer" refers to sailship long keel that was used to balance the height of the masts and the tension caused to them by the wind, so that the ship would not capsize.

Just as spaceships use the "ship" in them, Navy ranks and terms apply and they are referred to as "she".

If people like the "sail" on the Terran Auxiliary, the same should apply for the "long keel" of Paranid capitals...

As far as I am concerned Paranid are the best designed and streamlined spaceships in X4, second only to the Split ones. Unfortunately the Split ships look good (at least to me) only in red, while the Paranid ones keep their "beauty" in all colour schemes.

I have no problem with the keel, but the main body should be a lot wider to reduce the fat look caused by that M dock.

[Maebius]

I don't like it.
Although to me it looks more like a giant portable barcode reading gun

[NightmareNight91]

Why not a purely cosmetic dlc that would give the paranids some (much needed) love...this way, if you like the current fat hairdryers, u can keep them while the rest of us enjoy a much sleeker and true to x3 oddy. I vote for removing the M dock completly so that it can lose some girth.

[af_2017]

All paranid cap ships look like shit and ota be revised entierly. sorry to creators but they are not nice to look at. "my opinion"

that's exactly what i think. Though some of them have good sides, like very fast miners/scouts.

[Tempest]

the best artists don't care what others think.

i like how each race seems to have it's own approach to ship aesthetics and is easily recognizable (TL/Builder excluded ofcourse)

[jlehtone]

P.S. Why it is hair dryer? It is same as in X2 if I not wrong.

X3 Zeus and Hercules had "keel", but they main body was flat. X2 Odysseus shape resembles X4 Xenon K.

[Raptor34]

I've actually grown to like the look of the Oddy. Excepting some of its nose L turrets, those look out of place. Like they are refurbished cruise ships or something.
Not the Zeus though. The wings I think, I dislike those.

[JoeVN09]

I like the shape well enough but as with a lot of the destroyers I think it should have had the XL Atlas' model, which is reminiscent of the X3 Oddy. In my head destroyers are the big daddy ships of the X universe and should have commensurate size, but the way they have it now matches the naval description of a destroyer a bit better. Still, I can't help but feel like those sexy XL models are wasted on the resupply ships -- the Monitor would make for a great battleship design.

[Axeface]

Whether you like the design or not I think the odysseus' model needs some work imo, same goes for most of the paranid L ships like the freighters. The shape for me looks cool from certain angles and not so cool from others, its on the cusp of looking nice but currently I just feel 'meh' about it, poll is love or hate so not voting. I feel like all the paranid capitals were just not given much time and were rushed. I would really like a rework of all paranid capitals and perhaps a total rethink of their aesthetics (they could be vertical and monolithic).

Piranid ships from X3 are awesome, These in x4 are cartoons. Nothing but a joke. Cost cutting blobs.

So I assume you think the Zeus looks awesome as it is almost a direct port? Atlas to a lesser extent is basically an x3 paranid ship too.

[Gween]

Never was a big fan of the more modern (X3/X4) paranid ship designs. Atlas and X4 Zeus look cool, considering that they are just silver wavers but the other designs with those "weapongrips" on the bottom are just so weird. X2 Zeus and Odysseus looked so much cooler

[solarie99]

All paranid cap ships look like shit and ota be revised entierly. sorry to creators but they are not nice to look at. "my opinion"

that's exactly what i think. Though some of them have good sides, like very fast miners/scouts.

All the smaller ships are just fine, i have nothing onto them i only have problems with the capital ships of the paranids.

[Karvat]

In my opinion, the Paranid ships should be revisited a bit, actually they are not on par with the details of the Split and Terran ships.
Then personally the ships I like least are the Argon ones, but it's just personal taste.

[Bozz11]

I have exterminated paranids in all my games because they just kill immersion xD those destroyers look like giant hairdryer invading your space...

Now there is no way I'd pay for a DLC that changes the base races ships, it's either free or no buy, I have nothing against DLCs I hope they make more but just put yourself on the place of a new player, so you buy the game and if you want a better looking odysseus you have to pay an extra 10$ xD
I'd rather pay to have more ship variations for the vanilla races ! Like paranids making a better version of the odysseus and then replacing it using mostly the new version that would be okey.

[Tomonor]

I voted no, but dunno, guess I grew to like it.

[solarie99]

I have exterminated paranids in all my games because they just kill immersion xD those destroyers look like giant hairdryer invading your space...

Now there is no way I'd pay for a DLC that changes the base races ships, it's either free or no buy, I have nothing against DLCs I hope they make more but just put yourself on the place of a new player, so you buy the game and if you want a better looking odysseus you have to pay an extra 10$ xD
I'd rather pay to have more ship variations for the vanilla races ! Like paranids making a better version of the odysseus and then replacing it using mostly the new version that would be okey.

The Return of the hairdryers now in this epesode they will heat your stations to death.

[MegaJohnny]

I have to admit I'm not a fan.

If I had a magic wand, I'd like to remove its M-dock. I think it's a really cool idea to have an M-dock on an L-ship, but I feel it's the source of the Oddy's chunkiness.

[Raevyan]

To me it looks like a toilet. Don’t we all like to have toilets?

[Tamina]

The hair dreier design is a homage to Dietmar Schönherr and Raumpatrouille Orion. Look out for showerheads, too.

I always kind of felt, especially with XR, that it was partially inspired by "German Sci-Fi". While the US sci fi is all about cool industrial space ships pew pew, German Sci-Fi portrays the future as weird and different, just for the sake of it.
However, in what way is this particular ship connected to Raumpatrouille Orion? It looks significantly different than the shows ship - never saw that show so maybe there are other ships but Google does not give me any results.

[paraskous]

The hair dreier design is a homage to Dietmar Schönherr and Raumpatrouille Orion. Look out for showerheads, too.

I always kind of felt, especially with XR, that it was partially inspired by "German Sci-Fi". While the US sci fi is all about cool industrial space ships pew pew, German Sci-Fi portrays the future as weird and different, just for the sake of it.
However, in what way is this particular ship connected to Raumpatrouille Orion? It looks significantly different than the shows ship - never saw that show so maybe there are other ships but Google does not give me any results.

The show used an assortmernt of household appliances for control surfaces, levers and instruments. Pencil sharpeners as dials, showerheads for comm receivers - you name it. For a low budget it was not too bad, the b/w gives it its believable touch. The design was futuristic enough and if you visit competitor Frontier development forum right now - they run sort of early access of their new expansion - commanders just got legs and there is some fun made about tools and weapons looking akin to staplers, hairdryers and such.

[chew-ie]

[..] Raumpatrouille Orion? [..] never saw that show [..]

O.m.f.g Please do so at your earliest convenience

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I voted "ugly" as there are way too few details. While the "better" PAR ships like the Zeus fit the Paranid theme of X² & X³ the Odysseus is really the worst ship in the whole X4 arsenal and I'd appreciate a complete remake. Especially X³ Odysseus and Deimos (which is somewhat resembling the X4 Selene) teach how a proper Paranid combat vessel has to look like.

Also, the armament blows everything out of proportion - they are cramped & suggest that the ship design came first and the turret placement after. Looking at all other X4 ships I'd say the Odysseus was one of the first attempts where both workflow and toolchain wasn't as clearly defined as it is now (e.g. compare how Lino described the dev phases of the creation of a ship like the ascard).

So .. I hope at least the Oddy gets a refactoring. I used to like PAR ships, but in X4 they are just .. meh. Give me back the Medusa, Susanova (Yaki Susanova!), Deimos, real Oddy, Agamemnon... you name it