[Poll]Do you like Odysseus's shape?

[MegaJohnny]

I have to admit I'm not a fan.

If I had a magic wand, I'd like to remove its M-dock. I think it's a really cool idea to have an M-dock on an L-ship, but I feel it's the source of the Oddy's chunkiness.

[Raevyan]

To me it looks like a toilet. Don’t we all like to have toilets?

[Tamina]

The hair dreier design is a homage to Dietmar Schönherr and Raumpatrouille Orion. Look out for showerheads, too.

I always kind of felt, especially with XR, that it was partially inspired by "German Sci-Fi". While the US sci fi is all about cool industrial space ships pew pew, German Sci-Fi portrays the future as weird and different, just for the sake of it.
However, in what way is this particular ship connected to Raumpatrouille Orion? It looks significantly different than the shows ship - never saw that show so maybe there are other ships but Google does not give me any results.

[paraskous]

The hair dreier design is a homage to Dietmar Schönherr and Raumpatrouille Orion. Look out for showerheads, too.

I always kind of felt, especially with XR, that it was partially inspired by "German Sci-Fi". While the US sci fi is all about cool industrial space ships pew pew, German Sci-Fi portrays the future as weird and different, just for the sake of it.
However, in what way is this particular ship connected to Raumpatrouille Orion? It looks significantly different than the shows ship - never saw that show so maybe there are other ships but Google does not give me any results.

The show used an assortmernt of household appliances for control surfaces, levers and instruments. Pencil sharpeners as dials, showerheads for comm receivers - you name it. For a low budget it was not too bad, the b/w gives it its believable touch. The design was futuristic enough and if you visit competitor Frontier development forum right now - they run sort of early access of their new expansion - commanders just got legs and there is some fun made about tools and weapons looking akin to staplers, hairdryers and such.

[chew-ie]

[..] Raumpatrouille Orion? [..] never saw that show [..]

O.m.f.g Please do so at your earliest convenience

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I voted "ugly" as there are way too few details. While the "better" PAR ships like the Zeus fit the Paranid theme of X² & X³ the Odysseus is really the worst ship in the whole X4 arsenal and I'd appreciate a complete remake. Especially X³ Odysseus and Deimos (which is somewhat resembling the X4 Selene) teach how a proper Paranid combat vessel has to look like.

Also, the armament blows everything out of proportion - they are cramped & suggest that the ship design came first and the turret placement after. Looking at all other X4 ships I'd say the Odysseus was one of the first attempts where both workflow and toolchain wasn't as clearly defined as it is now (e.g. compare how Lino described the dev phases of the creation of a ship like the ascard).

So .. I hope at least the Oddy gets a refactoring. I used to like PAR ships, but in X4 they are just .. meh. Give me back the Medusa, Susanova (Yaki Susanova!), Deimos, real Oddy, Agamemnon... you name it

[Drumma]

I never had any Ody in fleet because I don't like how it looks, would ruin immersion for me.

+1 I don't like they way they look either. I've seen them described as is in this thread or a ray gun. I don't like the Paranids either; they remind me of brown recluse spiders with those three eyes.

for those who don't know brown recluses are one of the only arachnids with three pairs of eyes instead of 4 pair. I know since I have intimate knowledge of those little rascals.

GL HF

[helgard]

Honestly I think the Xenon Cap Ships would be good Paranid ships... Xenon are supposed to be Megalithic Flying Toasters not metallic bugs.

This.. kind of lame than Xenon looks like bugs.. forgive my french.. but they should look more like Borgs.. efficiency over design..

[Olfrygt]

I would pay for a dlc that updates all vanilla factions to be on par with split/terran ships....just sayin

Truth............i would even pay 30€.

Honestly I think the Xenon Cap Ships would be good Paranid ships... Xenon are supposed to be Megalithic Flying Toasters not metallic bugs.

This.. kind of lame than Xenon looks like bugs.. forgive my french.. but they should look more like Borgs.. efficiency over design..

Yep!

[Baronfuming]

It has a distinctive 'silhouette' when fighting it from the front. Very intimidating. I do think that the textures look a bit low-resolution though.

[al_dude]

My only issue is that paint job doesn't really work on the ship.

Other than that, it's probably the most well-rounded destroyer.

[13913408324]

I like S and M class ships，but the L and XL......those turrets are attached to the surface of the ship like rubber mud.........more details should be added

[13913408324]

I have to admit I'm not a fan.

If I had a magic wand, I'd like to remove its M-dock. I think it's a really cool idea to have an M-dock on an L-ship, but I feel it's the source of the Oddy's chunkiness.

Agree!

[13913408324]

The turrets on the Paranid capital ships need to be redesigned. Those rectangular cutouts look really ugly, but also those huge L turrets really don't fit the overall curvy design at all, especially on the nose of the Odysseus. I would pay gladly for a DLC that facelifts some of the 1.0 ships to the quality of ships in SV and CoH.

"I would pay for a dlc that updates all vanilla factions to be on par with split/terran ships"

[Pares]

The turrets on the Paranid capital ships need to be redesigned. Those rectangular cutouts look really ugly, but also those huge L turrets really don't fit the overall curvy design at all, especially on the nose of the Odysseus. I would pay gladly for a DLC that facelifts some of the 1.0 ships to the quality of ships in SV and CoH.

"I would pay for a dlc that updates all vanilla factions to be on par with split/terran ships"

And maybe introduce some new unique assets for each race too, like station docks, construction ships, race unique station interiors, etc. Would I pay for a DLC that introduces more variety and unique assets? Absolutely. Will it ever happen? Doubtful.

[plynak]

Frontaly looking it is actually quite nice. From side it gets worse and from the back it is really bad.
I would sacrifice the ability to land a corvettes for a more more sleek design.
Especialy when stats wise it quite a good ship.

[SpaceCadet11864]

It's no wonder all the HOP sectors in my game are drying out!

...I'll see myself out.

[BigBANGtheory]

One of the reasons why I started X4 late on was I felt the game needed better looking capital ships which came in the form of the XR Shippack Mod and of course Split Vendetta.

[mehmeteking]

In my opinion Odysseus can be a candidate for the ugliest ship in Sci-fi Which is weird because outside of Paranid capital ships I really like ship designs in X4. There is just a lack of variety.

[Ezarkal]

I'm not a big fan of Paranid ships in general.
I don't really like the Ody (although I gotta recognize it beats the crap outta the argon and teladi designs in terms of battle performance), but I think I like the paranid carrier even less.

[GDS_dmitry]

Something is terribly wrong with textures on Paranid ships. No detailes and blurry. Paint skins look awfully on them. No metal brush feel (or mirror style) at all. Especially compared to split ships. Every single X Rebirth ship has better textures, overall design and many small details. And I don't understand, where are: Agamemnon, Ares, Ariadne and Deimos from X3 ? Again, X4 lacks any beautifyl capital ships for old races (paranid, teladi, argon).