Linux Support (Beta)

[steve_v]

Results; Removing the 'evdev' Kernel module appears to brick the PC, requiring a rescue solution.

I have a reply open in another tab, but I became distracted before hitting "submit"... It reads: Make sure you have a way to reverse this without use of your USB input devices, including the mouse and probably the keyboard too. Alternative drivers exist, so long as they're compiled into your kernel.
Uhh, sorry I guess. Oops. I blame Mayhem.

For recovery, either chroot into your install from a livecd or just SSH into your box from another device. This is one of the reasons we run ssh servers.

I think I've exhausted all the options and it's safe to call this an X4 Bug. Not just an X4 bug either, but a udev bug and an SDL2 bug, as well as a Thrustmaster bug.

Pretty much, though I'd be more inclined to say:
1) More an oversight, XR handles this fine, so time to port over that solution.
2) Not really udev's problem.
3) A bug if you can call missing features bugs, it's being worked on.
4) If they both report the same serial number (and they probably do), most certainly a bug. Never going to be fixed though, it works on Windoze and manufacturers are generally lazy sods.

[Lander1979]

I have a response from Thrustmaster... They don't support Linux. I suggested they take a queue from Microsoft and get onto it or be left behind.

So as far as X4 is concerned, should I consider this bug as reported? I'd love to know that it's at least on somebodys "to do" list...

[steve_v]

So as far as X4 is concerned, should I consider this bug as reported?

That's an excellent question, and AFAIK there is no public bugtracker or other facility specifically for reporting bugs.

As far as I can tell, the general approach seems to be opening a new thread in the tech support forum and waiting until someone from egosoft makes comment.

[Cadbury]

Anyone tried a Saitek X52 pro? I can get all the buttons to map but any axes are completely unresponsive

I can see all the axes correctly responding in the Manjaro game controller setup window.

[Rastuasi]

I use the x56 warthog with no issues on Arch

[Cadbury]

I did find a reddit post of someone having the same issue - https://www.reddit.com/r/X4Foundations/ ... e_game_on/

Reading through past posts in this thread, it looks like it did work at some point but doesn't seem to any more

[Cadbury]

Well, how about that. I changed the menu option "gamepad mode" to "for all controllers/joysticks" and my axes sprang to life! I can use my x52 again!

[Alan Phipps]

It might be that the joystick hints in the 'Known Issues' Sticky might have helped too.

[knro]

I have a response from Thrustmaster... They don't support Linux. I suggested they take a queue from Microsoft and get onto it or be left behind.

So as far as X4 is concerned, should I consider this bug as reported? I'd love to know that it's at least on somebodys "to do" list...

I actually just registered on this forum to search for this exact problem. Same here with two Thursmasters. They work fine with Star Citizen under proton. This is an X4 issue, but SDL2 issue as well since it needs to handle duplicate entries. Not sure how to handle this now... maybe dig SDL2 and/or kernel code to patch something.

[Vadi]

Just chiming in to say that I am getting the "couldn't allocate heap" error reported in viewtopic.php?f=180&t=414524&p=4894872& ... p#p4894872 as well.

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The Steam Linux Runtime container tool is not installed.

[Lander1979]

@knro
If you're able to script in python or something similar there exists the possibility of making a custom unified Joystick device by bridging the two joysticks into 1 virtual device. I did look into this but so far it's way over my head as I'm not a programmer(program tinkerer at best).

Also it would be helpful for you to give Thrustmaster Support an Email about the issue. The more voices they hear asking for Linux support the better.
Adding a comment here; https://discourse.libsdl.org/t/linux-bu ... lict/26848 to confirm the problem will also help with the SDL2 side of the issue.

@Vadi
I have found that having had other programs open such as Chromium web browser causes the issue, even when they've been shut down before launching X4 the issue still arises. Try launching the game after a clean boot and removing any unnecessary programs with Htop.

[fallenwizard]

@timon37

I apologize in advance if you already know about this. I also apologize if this isn't the correct thread for a bug report related to the 3.0 beta.
I am just posting it here because it seems to have been hidden by the flood of bug reports in the public beta forum.

In 3.0 (since Beta 1), there have been flickering artifacts with RADV. The only workaround is to disable delta color compression ( RADV_DEBUG=nodcc ), which obviously results in a FPS drop.
Trying X4 with amdvlk resulted in a GPU hang. The reason are a bunch of validation errors.

The latest version it happened was with 3.0 Beta 3

Links:
viewtopic.php?f=192&t=420291
viewtopic.php?f=192&t=419952 (with validation layers enabled & renderdoc captures posted)

[shmerl]

When trying to run the game with radv/aco, it segfaults on startup (RX 5700 XT Navi card). Did anyone encounter this? With radv/llvm it starts up fine.

I use Mesa master, and start the game with:

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RADV_PERFTEST=aco

Game version: 2.60 hotfix 2 (GOG).

<Also see this thread for more details. Alan Phipps>

[wasted90]

hey guys everytime i close X4 via the menu the game isn't terminated normally. right after i got back to my desktop systemd-coredump is running and sptitting a ~500MB file in /var/lib/systemd/coredump. already have six of them.
if this is not a common issue i can send one at ES.

does anybody else have this issue?

i'm running arch @ zen-kernel '5.4.7-zen1-1'
i5-3570k @ 3,8 GHz
8 GB RAM xmp
nvidia GTX-1050ti @ stock
using steam runtime

game version 3.00 beta (378025)

if i can provide any further information just let me know.

UPDATE:
also happens with standart arch-distribution-kernel

[ajmind66]

When trying to run the game with radv/aco, it segfaults on startup (RX 5700 XT Navi card). Did anyone encounter this? With radv/llvm it starts up fine.

So far no problem on

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5.4.8-arch1-1

With RX5700 and recent Beta 3.x

does anybody else have this issue?

Nope, runs fine here.

[fridl]

Ok, thats right, the Output from ldd tells as well:

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> ldd X4
./X4: /usr/lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2: no version information available (required by ./X4)
./X4: /usr/lib64/libldap_r-2.4.so.2: no version information available (required by ./X4)
./X4: /usr/lib64/libssl.so.1.0.0: version `OPENSSL_1.0.1' not found (required by ./X4)

I think I have the right versions of liblder and libldap, but the wrong of libssl. Perhaps therefore there is a issue with the other two libs as well. So I also hope for a change on egosofts side, because I can't find a place providing the "proper" libssl for my system... And I'm not that deep in the topic

Ok, after not been able to fix this I have a promising solution, that could be added to the official trouble shooting guide. When installing steam from flatpak/flathub (i don't know if it is officially supported) I have it running under my openSUSE installation. This could be a solution for steams dependency-troubles... Could also work for other games!

[wasted90]

Ok, thats right, the Output from ldd tells as well:

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> ldd X4
./X4: /usr/lib64/liblber-2.4.so.2: no version information available (required by ./X4)
./X4: /usr/lib64/libldap_r-2.4.so.2: no version information available (required by ./X4)
./X4: /usr/lib64/libssl.so.1.0.0: version `OPENSSL_1.0.1' not found (required by ./X4)

I think I have the right versions of liblder and libldap, but the wrong of libssl. Perhaps therefore there is a issue with the other two libs as well. So I also hope for a change on egosofts side, because I can't find a place providing the "proper" libssl for my system... And I'm not that deep in the topic

Ok, after not been able to fix this I have a promising solution, that could be added to the official trouble shooting guide. When installing steam from flatpak/flathub (i don't know if it is officially supported) I have it running under my openSUSE installation. This could be a solution for steams dependency-troubles... Could also work for other games!

normally steam packages are shipped bundled with a runtime-environment to avoid library issues. maybe your installation of the opensuse package wasnt configured properly to use this runtime/ run with system librarys.
the arch wiki has more information on this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/St ... am_runtime

[fridl]

normally steam packages are shipped bundled with a runtime-environment to avoid library issues. maybe your installation of the opensuse package wasnt configured properly to use this runtime/ run with system librarys.
the arch wiki has more information on this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/St ... am_runtime

you may be right, i have had issues not just with x, but also with other games (not all). But I couldn't solve and tryed a lot. And I know other people have, too. Therefir this is a easy to use solution for most distros.

[wasted90]

you may be right, i have had issues not just with x, but also with other games (not all). But I couldn't solve and tryed a lot. And I know other people have, too. Therefir this is a easy to use solution for most distros.

Good to hear you finally found a solution

[_JD_]

Hi everyone, I just noticed some weird issue when I use X4 with a Joystick: very often all the scrollable menus they just reset to the top making very hard/annoying to check, for example, the reputation screen.
I wanted to check here if it's just me or if it's a common problem.

Since I'm playing the 3.0 beta branch, I opened already an issue there: viewtopic.php?f=192&t=423046

If you are experiencing the same issue could you please comment there, perhaps including some system specs, Joystick/HOTAS model and version of X4?