[BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal

Post by Misunderstood Wookie » Sat, 20. Apr 19, 06:33

There is no known normal or low setting in the game, I do not know why it is even a selection.
High or nothing and It has been this way since launch I am an AMD user btw and have installed a couple of cards since I last bothered to check.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal

Post by alt3rn1ty » Sun, 21. Jul 19, 21:50

Update :

Now running X4 2.50 Hotfix 1 on This machine

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Same issue still happens
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal

Post by Misunderstood Wookie » Wed, 17. Mar 21, 14:12

Yeah it is just kind of there.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal

Post by Alan Phipps » Wed, 17. Mar 21, 14:25

The devs confirmed the case and that there are reasons for its selection not being enabled in game. Whether this situation will change in the future is not known.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal

Post by alt3rn1ty » Fri, 19. Mar 21, 16:19

Alan Phipps wrote:
Wed, 17. Mar 21, 14:25
The devs confirmed the case and that there are reasons for its selection not being enabled in game. Whether this situation will change in the future is not known.
Sorry missed you posting this .. Thank you for the info.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by jojorne » Fri, 19. Mar 21, 17:25

Ah, okay. well, now even the "Low" is gone too. xD

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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by alt3rn1ty » Wed, 29. Dec 21, 18:28

According to the following topic ..

viewtopic.php?f=180&t=441562

.. Someone found that :

1. High was resulting in jaggy shadow edges

2. Normal is selectable in the Config, by using 1 instead of 2 (2 equates previously to using the High setting), and is better currently than setting High

But Normal is still not selectable in game.

I know this is still marked "working as intended for now" .. But the ability to change shadow setting to 1 in the Config is new (as is High being Jaggy for some), so I wonder if there have been background attempts to change how this all works.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by alt3rn1ty » Sat, 21. Jan 23, 15:17

As of 6.0 Beta 1 ..

This bug report can be closed, no longer relevant because "Normal" Shadow setting is no longer an option

https://i.imgur.com/3T8aOKl.png
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by user1679 » Sun, 22. Jan 23, 03:00

alt3rn1ty wrote:
Sat, 21. Jan 23, 15:17
As of 6.0 Beta 1 ..

This bug report can be closed, no longer relevant because "Normal" Shadow setting is no longer an option

https://i.imgur.com/3T8aOKl.png
Seems like a strange way to fix a bug. Most modern games offer low / medium / high / ultra settings.

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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by alt3rn1ty » Sun, 22. Jan 23, 23:12

user1679 wrote:
Sun, 22. Jan 23, 03:00
alt3rn1ty wrote:
Sat, 21. Jan 23, 15:17
As of 6.0 Beta 1 ..

This bug report can be closed, no longer relevant because "Normal" Shadow setting is no longer an option

https://i.imgur.com/3T8aOKl.png
Seems like a strange way to fix a bug. Most modern games offer low / medium / high / ultra settings.
Yeah but going by Allan's reply earlier I think this is technically unsolveable without major changes, and right now they will want to focus on v6.0 betas stability before releasing the next DLC.
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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by user1679 » Mon, 23. Jan 23, 02:39

alt3rn1ty wrote:
Sun, 22. Jan 23, 23:12
user1679 wrote:
Sun, 22. Jan 23, 03:00
alt3rn1ty wrote:
Sat, 21. Jan 23, 15:17
As of 6.0 Beta 1 ..

This bug report can be closed, no longer relevant because "Normal" Shadow setting is no longer an option

https://i.imgur.com/3T8aOKl.png
Seems like a strange way to fix a bug. Most modern games offer low / medium / high / ultra settings.
Yeah but going by Allan's reply earlier I think this is technically unsolveable without major changes, and right now they will want to focus on v6.0 betas stability before releasing the next DLC.
Personally I like the soft shadows in X4 better than regular shadows, they fill in the small areas nicely and seem to have a better visual effect than regular shadows.

But for the stability issue, they really need to make the game multithreaded but they already said that's not going to happen. Having all simulations on a single core is the bottleneck for most people and it's too bad because X4 could really
be a great multiplayer experience (ventures) if you could fully utilize all 4, 8, 16 cores.

Multithreading Handbook for Simulation Developers is an interesting read, as well as Multithreading for game engines (Vulkan guide) and Threading - NVIDIA PhysX SDK. I don't think it's impossible to make X4 multithreaded but it's so far along in development it would essentially be like writing a new game.

I'll cast my vote for X4 v7.0 to be the Multithreaded Update. No new content, just multicore/threading so you can play the game properly. Let the modders create the content for v7.0.

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Re: [BUG] Any version - Shadow Settings - Can not select Normal - WAI for now.

Post by Imperial Good » Mon, 23. Jan 23, 08:23

alt3rn1ty wrote:
Sat, 21. Jan 23, 15:17
This bug report can be closed, no longer relevant because "Normal" Shadow setting is no longer an option
At this stage they should probably rename the settings down a tier to "Normal" and "High" instead of "High" and "Ultra". Even a GTX 760 could run "High" shadows.
user1679 wrote:
Mon, 23. Jan 23, 02:39
But for the stability issue, they really need to make the game multithreaded but they already said that's not going to happen. Having all simulations on a single core is the bottleneck for most people and it's too bad because X4 could really
be a great multiplayer experience (ventures) if you could fully utilize all 4, 8, 16 cores.
X4 is multi threaded already.
user1679 wrote:
Mon, 23. Jan 23, 02:39
Threading - NVIDIA PhysX SDK.
X4 as of 6.00 is moving to use the Jolt physics engine. That is fully multi threaded with very good multi-core scaling.

I am closing this topic since it has been revived from the dead multiple times already and now seems to be drifting off topic.

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