It's time for Exitcode 222-231, 1028 (Access to physical device lost) - Seems fixed with Nvidia 462.07 driver hotfix.

[shovelmonkey]

Do you have any kind of overclocking or other performance tweaks active on your system?

No manual overclocking. Just the auto boosts that AMD and NVIDIA do on their own. I am using XMP to run my ram @ 3200mhz, but that is what the ram is rated for. Everything is stock setting, I haven't touched any of it. Drivers were DDU'd and clean installed when I got the 3090 as well.

Single cable with splitter from PSU to GPU? Or 2 cables?

Two eight pin cables from the psu to proprietary cable provided by NVIDIA that attaches to the 3090 for the FE version of the card.

@shovelmonkey and @luke79
Can you try reducing the max power, and/or underclocking and/or undervolting the gpu a bit?

In general we're trying to work stuff out with nvidia, but it's a very slow process:(
The feedback does help even if we're not actively responding to it.

Sure, I will try this in a little while and report back.

[shovelmonkey]

@shovelmonkey and @luke79
Can you try reducing the max power, and/or underclocking and/or undervolting the gpu a bit?

In general we're trying to work stuff out with nvidia, but it's a very slow process:(
The feedback does help even if we're not actively responding to it.

Ok, I underclocked the 3090 by 250mhz and set the power limit to 90%. I didn't mess with the voltage because frankly I don't know what I'm doing.

That being said, I'm either getting lucky or this is promising. I've been playing for 1.5 hours with no issues. I attached some links to some screen shots ingame and gpu-z performance:


Ingame FPS & GPU Usage / GPU-Z Stats NO underclock

http://i.imgur.com/bEvx5by.png
http://i.imgur.com/F8qRbt3.png


Ingame FPS & GPU Usage / GPU-Z Stats 250mhz underclock and 90% power limit

http://i.imgur.com/HXGK7hR.png
http://i.imgur.com/fE19F3A.png

Edit - 3 hour session now without a crash. And thanks CBJ, yeah those pics were huge

[luke79]

@shovelmonkey and @luke79
Can you try reducing the max power, and/or underclocking and/or undervolting the gpu a bit?

In general we're trying to work stuff out with nvidia, but it's a very slow process:(
The feedback does help even if we're not actively responding to it.

I can try underclocking and undervolting I guess, can't hurt. What software are people using for it?

[shovelmonkey]

@shovelmonkey and @luke79
Can you try reducing the max power, and/or underclocking and/or undervolting the gpu a bit?

In general we're trying to work stuff out with nvidia, but it's a very slow process:(
The feedback does help even if we're not actively responding to it.

I can try underclocking and undervolting I guess, can't hurt. What software are people using for it?

I just used MSI Afterburner.

https://www.msi.com/Landing/afterburner

Adjust some sliders, works real time.

[Poopzone]

@luke79, I might have missed it, but are you at all using the 4.0 beta 5 or 6? On my rig the beta has not only resolved all the problems I had when I opened this thread, but it has also increased performance on the 30 series nvidia cards dramatically.

I had some limited success with reducing the voltages and power but only the beta version of the game ever actually resolved the problem. I have not changed the driver at all.

[Poopzone]

Hi thread, just had another 222-231 exitcode crash after a very long while playing on the 4.0 beta6.
I'm not sure how I could reproduce it since it was the first crash in countless hours since 4.0beta5. Just wanted to make a note of the crash that it still seems possible that it can happen.

[Shehriazad]

I'm using a 3070 Founders Edition and get the same crash issues.

Most recent drivers from Nvidia on a clean install...

It seems I either crash on startup (with about 8 out of 10 starting attempts crashing before reaching the main menu) or I get an hour to a few hours of gametime before disintegrating. Since it's a Founders Edition there is no such thing as a factory overclock on the card and underclocking it doesn't grant me stability, either.

[luke79]

@luke79, I might have missed it, but are you at all using the 4.0 beta 5 or 6? On my rig the beta has not only resolved all the problems I had when I opened this thread, but it has also increased performance on the 30 series nvidia cards dramatically.

I had some limited success with reducing the voltages and power but only the beta version of the game ever actually resolved the problem. I have not changed the driver at all.

Yep latest betas.

[Poopzone]

I'll go ahead and install this. So far I''m happy with the one minor crash I had since the game beta builds.

[jlehtone]

Got one crash. 3.30 HF2 nosteam. NVidia 461.33 hotfix driver.
Uploaded dxdiag, vulkaninfo, and dump to the page that game loads on crash.

Previous crash was in 2021-01-17. About 35 hours played between the crashes.

This game session was about 30 minutes, just following "HOP" Marauder Rattlesnake in Cardinal's Redress.

Card: Asus RTX 3070 TUF Gaming OC, on its "factory defaults".

[luke79]

The latest Nvidia driver from yesterday mentioned Vulkan fixes for X4 and I've had a couple marathon sessions since installing it with no crashes (and no undervolting or anything). Here's hoping this holds out, I'm encouraged so far!

[shovelmonkey]

I just had my first crash in prolly 20-30 hours of playtime. This is on Beta 4.9, running Nvidia 461.72 drivers. Also no undervolting or underclocking lately.

Seems to be working better, maybe? But still present.

[luke79]

Just got my first error after maybe 10 hours of playtime since Friday. I haven't underclocked or undervolted yet but I guess now's the time to try

[timon37]

We got info from nvidia that the vulkan beta driver might fix this issue.
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-bet ... windows-10
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver
The version seems to be 458.06, so since it's older it may be necessary to remove other driver versions e.g. using DDU:
https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/di ... nload.html

Anyone who's willing to try it'd be greatly appreciated!
If you do please verify in the nvidia control panel, that it's actually using this driver version, and preferably in vulkaninfo as well.

[consiefe]

I have a 3070 and once a hour my game crashes for this reason. I won't mess with my drivers or gpu for this. You guys should figure this out.

[Roeleveld]

I have a 3070 and once a hour my game crashes for this reason. I won't mess with my drivers or gpu for this. You guys should figure this out.

Egosoft is trying to resolve this, But the issue is more likely in the NVidia drivers and/or the card.

There are 30-series card users who haven't had a single crash, if it were only in the game, this group wouldn't exist.

[Alan Phipps]

If consiefe won't trust the manufacturer of their graphics card when they issue new drivers for [whatever good reasons] then that is their own choice to make. The game does not have to cater for such choices though.

[consiefe]

If consiefe won't trust the manufacturer of their graphics card when they issue new drivers for [whatever good reasons] then that is their own choice to make. The game does not have to cater for such choices though.

I am always using the latest drivers they provide which I think shows my trust. Besides there are tons of low and high end titles I play without a single issue including the infamous CP 2077. My intentions are -were not being mean but if I am not mistaken your recommended solution was updating to a beta driver which I never needed to resort to. I just don't get why should it be needed only for X4 for the first time in my long gaming experience.

[CBJ]

How demanding a game doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether or not it will expose a flaw in a driver. If you take a look at the release notes for every single driver release, both from NVidia and AMD, you will see a long list of fixes that are specific to one game or another. Those fixes mean that that particular game exposed a driver problem; it just happens to be X4 that does it this time. Note the last two NVidia driver versions have both included release notes mentioning fixes that are specific to X4, but NVidia are still working on this particular issue.

[Alan Phipps]

@ consiefe: Then I apologise as I misunderstood you saying "I won't mess with my drivers " as meaning that you would not update your driver to the latest releases with the X4 fixes. Some other posters have said just that before.

The bit about the beta Nvidia Vulkan version was just a request from an Egosoft dev for a test and report of results based on a statement and feedback request made by Nvidia during their ongoing investigations of their driver issues. It could always be just a temporary test and is easy enough to revert by a further driver reinstall to current release version. There was no 'recommendation' to do it.