[MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Shuulo » Fri, 31. Jul 20, 01:21

OneOfMany wrote:
Thu, 30. Jul 20, 22:01
Is there a patch in the works for the new release of X4 or will the current version from the beta still function?
current version works fine, there is one minor bug that 99% of players will not stumble upon, so you are fine

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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by OneOfMany » Fri, 31. Jul 20, 10:59

Thanks Shuulo

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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 11:08

Finally managed to get it all up and running, and gotta say early impressions is awesome!!!! Capital ships and their guns feel right now, im just kinda lost in all the different weps right now haha

Also do the Split have there own version of M/MA? seeing every race has it but aint seen it, im just very OCD when getting things to match everything and that gun acts like an artillery battery which is always great fun
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 13:55

Hmmm i noticed strange behaviour from escorting destroyers, before i played the base game with little mods and when i had say a carrier attack with destroyers as its attack wings, the destroyers would go straight to the target and attack, now im testing the same thing with both the raptor and battleship, they would go straight to the target to attack but the destroyers would turn around and fly off far away, then maybe turn around and go to the target
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Buzz2005 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:29

I noticed that too when I had 12 destroyers, some would fly away in the opposite direction far away and slowly fly to the station, dont know if its vanilla thing but then again didn't see anyone reporting it

and its totally random and not that often, weird
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:39

Buzz2005 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:29
I noticed that too when I had 12 destroyers, some would fly away in the opposite direction far away and slowly fly to the station, dont know if its vanilla thing but then again didn't see anyone reporting it

and its totally random and not that often, weird
before VRO they always went straight to target, so its strange

however, when i have multiple battleships escorting the carrier as attack wing, they go straight to the target no problem, however the escorting destroyers for the battleships fly away, they pretty much never enter the battle

Edit: i know on the wiki VRO does not change behaviour, maybe the recent update has though?
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Buzz2005 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:04

it does not and probably never will, it could be the AI has some quirks with change to ranges and stuff VRO does
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:10

Buzz2005 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:04
it does not and probably never will, it could be the AI has some quirks with change to ranges and stuff VRO does
yeah my 1st thought, but other capital ships i tested so far work great

Edit: testing rattlesnakes as unasigned ships and they pretty much fly and attack targets as normal, there main issue is when as a sub for another ship

Edit 2: strange, seeing my game was a fresh install i never changed the map filters, as soon as i did it so i cant see all my ships orders they seem to be working fine now, weird
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Shuulo » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:49

Nemesis_87 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:39
Buzz2005 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:29
I noticed that too when I had 12 destroyers, some would fly away in the opposite direction far away and slowly fly to the station, dont know if its vanilla thing but then again didn't see anyone reporting it

and its totally random and not that often, weird
before VRO they always went straight to target, so its strange

however, when i have multiple battleships escorting the carrier as attack wing, they go straight to the target no problem, however the escorting destroyers for the battleships fly away, they pretty much never enter the battle

Edit: i know on the wiki VRO does not change behaviour, maybe the recent update has though?
It may happen as battleships dont have main weapons, but destroyers do and in latest versions they tend to keep on max range of their main battery, this also heavily depends on pilot level.

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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:55

Shuulo wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:49
Nemesis_87 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:39
Buzz2005 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:29
I noticed that too when I had 12 destroyers, some would fly away in the opposite direction far away and slowly fly to the station, dont know if its vanilla thing but then again didn't see anyone reporting it

and its totally random and not that often, weird
before VRO they always went straight to target, so its strange

however, when i have multiple battleships escorting the carrier as attack wing, they go straight to the target no problem, however the escorting destroyers for the battleships fly away, they pretty much never enter the battle

Edit: i know on the wiki VRO does not change behaviour, maybe the recent update has though?
It may happen as battleships dont have main weapons, but destroyers do and in latest versions they tend to keep on max range of their main battery, this also heavily depends on pilot level.
Well tried my original test, when engaging a target from far away the destroyers fly maybe 100km + in the opisute direction, while the commanding BS goes to the target, gonna do more testing :-P

Edit: tests consisted of crews 4 to 5 starts across the board
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Shuulo » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 23:35

Nemesis_87 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:55
Shuulo wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:49
Nemesis_87 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 14:39


before VRO they always went straight to target, so its strange

however, when i have multiple battleships escorting the carrier as attack wing, they go straight to the target no problem, however the escorting destroyers for the battleships fly away, they pretty much never enter the battle

Edit: i know on the wiki VRO does not change behaviour, maybe the recent update has though?
It may happen as battleships dont have main weapons, but destroyers do and in latest versions they tend to keep on max range of their main battery, this also heavily depends on pilot level.
Well tried my original test, when engaging a target from far away the destroyers fly maybe 100km + in the opisute direction, while the commanding BS goes to the target, gonna do more testing :-P

Edit: tests consisted of crews 4 to 5 starts across the board
this doesnt sound right lol :)
maybe they broke something in latest patch? i dont seem to get such behaviour.
btw, what these destroyers equipped with?

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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 23:51

Shuulo wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 23:35
Nemesis_87 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:55
Shuulo wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 15:49


It may happen as battleships dont have main weapons, but destroyers do and in latest versions they tend to keep on max range of their main battery, this also heavily depends on pilot level.
Well tried my original test, when engaging a target from far away the destroyers fly maybe 100km + in the opisute direction, while the commanding BS goes to the target, gonna do more testing :-P

Edit: tests consisted of crews 4 to 5 starts across the board
this doesnt sound right lol :)
maybe they broke something in latest patch? i dont seem to get such behaviour.
btw, what these destroyers equipped with?
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Buzz2005 » Sat, 1. Aug 20, 23:57

yes the behavior only started in 3.2, my destroyers where all fine had all weapons, if you want to test maybe have enough of Ls in a fleet and attack stations, its bound to happen at some point
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Nemesis_87 » Sun, 2. Aug 20, 00:36

Buzz2005 wrote:
Sat, 1. Aug 20, 23:57
yes the behavior only started in 3.2, my destroyers where all fine had all weapons, if you want to test maybe have enough of Ls in a fleet and attack stations, its bound to happen at some point
Thats ashame, for ages it was bad but when i came back in 3.0 it was spot on!!! i was going round with fleets laying destruction in my path
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Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 2.x

Post by Buzz2005 » Sun, 2. Aug 20, 02:19

well for me it was totally not a problem bc it only started when I had tons of ships, and even then it happened rarely
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