Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Metamartian » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 08:20

When I tried to board this ship, it told me i needed to destroy the ships turrets before my marine would board it. is that normal?

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by BrasatoAlBarolo » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 09:07

Metamartian wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 08:20
When I tried to board this ship, it told me i needed to destroy the ships turrets before my marine would board it. is that normal?
Yes, because you don't need to board it, as it's abandoned, you can just claim it.

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You can use an EMP bomb on it, scan the red dots before claiming it, and get its blueprint for the shipyard. I did it for other abandoned ships around and worked (even if sometimes buggy).

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Dirk-Jan » Tue, 12. Mar 19, 11:27

Answering the Original question: There is no way to claim it intact. Ships of L class or bigger have to be claimed with marines and this will always destroy some equipment. Only M class or smaller can be claimed intact because you can do it yourself: repair the leak in your suit and enter the ship.
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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by RainerPrem » Wed, 13. Mar 19, 08:53

Dirk-Jan wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 11:27
Answering the Original question: There is no way to claim it intact. Ships of L class or bigger have to be claimed with marines and this will always destroy some equipment. Only M class or smaller can be claimed intact because you can do it yourself: repair the leak in your suit and enter the ship.
Yes and no.

You can board L- and XL-class ships without damaging them (much). You need to set the two dropdowns in the boarding screen to "very strong". In that case you don't need to damage any weapons. You can even try to leave the hull at 100%. It works with the abandoned Oddy, but it takes extremely long to break through the hull of other ships. Normally it's enough to bring the hull down to ~90% to make it breakable much faster.

But the abandoned Oddy ALWAYS loses its main weapons, independently if you "claim" or "board" it.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Dirk-Jan » Wed, 13. Mar 19, 11:00

RainerPrem wrote:
Wed, 13. Mar 19, 08:53
Dirk-Jan wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 11:27
Answering the Original question: There is no way to claim it intact. Ships of L class or bigger have to be claimed with marines and this will always destroy some equipment. Only M class or smaller can be claimed intact because you can do it yourself: repair the leak in your suit and enter the ship.
Yes and no.

You can board L- and XL-class ships without damaging them (much). You need to set the two dropdowns in the boarding screen to "very strong". In that case you don't need to damage any weapons. You can even try to leave the hull at 100%. It works with the abandoned Oddy, but it takes extremely long to break through the hull of other ships. Normally it's enough to bring the hull down to ~90% to make it breakable much faster.

But the abandoned Oddy ALWAYS loses its main weapons, independently if you "claim" or "board" it.

so: yes and yes!
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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by darrund » Tue, 19. Mar 19, 12:54

Dirk-Jan wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 11:27
Answering the Original question: There is no way to claim it intact. Ships of L class or bigger have to be claimed with marines and this will always destroy some equipment. Only M class or smaller can be claimed intact because you can do it yourself: repair the leak in your suit and enter the ship.
I claimed it 2ice (in different games) so far.Its simple
Just send a couple of marines, get the hell away and out of sector as fast as you can, set the boarding criteria to hard and the marines will claim it for you and drive it out without damage.(at least not visible damage in hull and shields).
There might be some internal damage to fix on guns or other parts like engines but that might have been like this all along (hence the reason it is abandoned).
Going OOS will render the mines useless so no need to worry about them.
Now pre 2.0 it was fairly easy (if not just trivial) to get it out, now with the Xenon on steroids i simply don't know how easy this would be.Haven't tried it after 1.6.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Praefectus classis » Wed, 20. Mar 19, 00:33

darrund wrote:
Tue, 19. Mar 19, 12:54
Dirk-Jan wrote:
Tue, 12. Mar 19, 11:27
Answering the Original question: There is no way to claim it intact. Ships of L class or bigger have to be claimed with marines and this will always destroy some equipment. Only M class or smaller can be claimed intact because you can do it yourself: repair the leak in your suit and enter the ship.
I claimed it 2ice (in different games) so far.Its simple
Just send a couple of marines, get the hell away and out of sector as fast as you can, set the boarding criteria to hard and the marines will claim it for you and drive it out without damage.(at least not visible damage in hull and shields).
There might be some internal damage to fix on guns or other parts like engines but that might have been like this all along (hence the reason it is abandoned).
Going OOS will render the mines useless so no need to worry about them.
Now pre 2.0 it was fairly easy (if not just trivial) to get it out, now with the Xenon on steroids i simply don't know how easy this would be.Haven't tried it after 1.6.
I just looked through the save game file for the ownerless Odysseus, before I rescued it. It doesn't have any main guns fitted, only the turrets. It does seem to explain why it was abandoned in the first place.
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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Valen68 » Wed, 20. Mar 19, 04:11

Where is this ship located?

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by darrund » Wed, 20. Mar 19, 10:48

Valen68 wrote:
Wed, 20. Mar 19, 04:11
Where is this ship located?
Here is your answer

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by ei8htx » Wed, 27. Mar 19, 20:07

Unless it's changed recently, you just throw an emp bomb at it and scan the 4 points.

This'll claim it intact. No damage, no marines required.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by RainerPrem » Fri, 29. Mar 19, 07:45

ei8htx wrote:
Wed, 27. Mar 19, 20:07
Unless it's changed recently, you just throw an emp bomb at it and scan the 4 points.

This'll claim it intact. No damage, no marines required.
Just out of curiosity: Is there a special place to drop the bomb? I tried that in 2.0 and could not claim it that way.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by ei8htx » Fri, 29. Mar 19, 20:05

RainerPrem wrote:
Fri, 29. Mar 19, 07:45
ei8htx wrote:
Wed, 27. Mar 19, 20:07
Unless it's changed recently, you just throw an emp bomb at it and scan the 4 points.

This'll claim it intact. No damage, no marines required.
Just out of curiosity: Is there a special place to drop the bomb? I tried that in 2.0 and could not claim it that way.
You're right, it's changed.

From a fresh game, I was able to cap it by hiring a single marine, then instructing her to board with Combat Effectiveness and Hull Strength at Very High (the highest). She was able to take it after about 10 minutes with no damage done.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by Mileron » Mon, 1. Apr 19, 16:31

ei8htx wrote:
Fri, 29. Mar 19, 20:05
From a fresh game, I was able to cap it by hiring a single marine, then instructing her to board with Combat Effectiveness and Hull Strength at Very High (the highest). She was able to take it after about 10 minutes with no damage done.
If you don't want to watch the boarding pod circle the ship like a penny on one of those donation vortexes, you can teleport or fly out of sector and it'll be a lot faster.

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Re: Claimable destroyer found, how to claim it intact?

Post by RodentofDoom » Thu, 25. Apr 19, 01:28

It gets more interesting if you leave it a while to go collect

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