jlehtone wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 21:30
Raptor34 wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 20:50
Not completely true. It seems the check is not sector ownership, assuming of course its your sector at least, but whether they have an admin module in the intervening sector.
I've took Tharka's Cascade, the lower one, and yet ZYA pushed on to the upper Tharka's Cascade too because they had admin centers in the preceding sector.
Ok.
1. You have ownership of Cascade XV
2. ZYA contests your claim of XV
3. ZYA can now contest Cascade XVII, because they have admin at neighbor
The question is then all about 2: can/will TER contest Getsu from player? If enemies, then definitely yes.
Is it possible that sectors like Tharka's Cascades have "special rules", because they are "within same hex"? They do have special rules for travel.
Well, to be precise.
1. ZYA has ownership of XV
2. I contest claim of XV
3. I blow up admin of XV flipping sector to my control, but not the whole station
4. ZYA repairs the admin module
5. ZYA proceeded to contest XVII
I'm fairly certain they did not start contesting XVII before that, probably lack of firepower or something. But perhaps they might have already started contesting and it then no longer considers the intervening sector? I'm 99% certain they did not contest XVII beforehand because otherwise I wouldn't have bothered flipping XV and just went ahead to contest XVII to halt them instead. Or at least they didn't have an admin up in XVII, nor send serious fleets in.
Ezarkal wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 22:40
Raptor34 wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 20:50
jlehtone wrote: ↑Wed, 21. Apr 21, 17:52
So far all accounts have been that NPC can invade only their neighbours. People have used that to confine factions all along.
I have not done plots, so ANT-TER is still -15. When
some harm did come to TER Admin modules in Belt, the ANT did swiftly build in Belt. They were quick enough (or the Terran rebuild efforts met hot plasma) and Belt is now ANT without any war. Alas, when TER admins in Jupiter did meet the same fate, the ANT did not seize the opportunity. Ah well, we can try again. And again. And ...
Not completely true. It seems the check is not sector ownership, assuming of course its your sector at least, but whether they have an admin module in the intervening sector.
I've took Tharka's Cascade, the lower one, and yet ZYA pushed on to the upper Tharka's Cascade too because they had admin centers in the preceding sector.
Also it seems that you have to kill all the defense stations to prevent them from rebuilding, of course I might be wrong but it seems that ARG ships blew up one of the 2 defense stations and they rebuilt it. Or at least it seemed to be in a different location.
This is very interesting, because while I own the sector and have over half a dozen stations in, many with admin modules, both ANT and TER also have 2 admin modules each. So if what you say holds true, then they are still free to invade each others.
I took over Getsu Fune before COH was released. ANT only had 1 admin module in, so I built my own then used the traitor mine trick to take over the sector. Ofc they did rebuild that module. Then CoH was released, and terran quickly built 1 admin module, either scripted or because our relations were not high enough. Their second build module came during one of the plot quest. Recently, ANT build a second one.
So all in all it promises a lot of fireworks when thing will go south. (Because believe me they will.) This is gonna be fun.
In your situation they wouldn't leapfrog because ANT/TER are contesting the same sector, but if it isn't special rules or same hex as jheltone theorized, then yes, after they've cleared out the other admins they should in theory push through. Unless you nuke all the defense stations permanently and simultaneously I think.
For COH does the defense station have a different name? Iirc the one in Getsu Fune isn't called defense station but has some unique name.
Also ANT building a second one sounds like how the ZYA rebuilt a destroyed one to keep a number of 2 defense stations.
But ultimately who knows how these things work, in my game TEL has defense stations in Fires of Defeat for some reason, and I think the ARG/TEL border sectors have defense stations in each other's borders.