Random News not worthy of own thread

[Morkonan]

...Finally I am rather surprised at your casual dismissal of the idea that legal counsel might be provided to someone suspected of a crime / being arrested, or that the police should resist the facilitation of such....

I have nothing against that at all. In fact, I firmly believe that is a priority... but not right in the middle of an arrest. The accused has the right to counsel as soon as it is practical, given the circumstances. That doesn't mean that the police must wait until BEFORE the person is arrested to provide them with counsel... If they're not under arrest, there is no mandate that counsel be provided to them. Otherwise, things would get ridiculous.

The police protect the public - This is true. The police also have a duty to protect the criminal, up to the point where their own persons may be in danger of harm. But, this whole instance obviously went pear-shaped and I am highly suspicious of why we only get footage of a cop trying to take the baby... Where's the rest of it? Where is the rest of this incident?

Either way, the baby must be taken from the mother to allow the police officers to expedite the arrest. There is no exception, here. It is in the best interest of all that this occur. They should, of course, not harm the baby when doing so and should exercise good judgement in how much force should be used. Still, it has to happen if she is to be arrested. Further, if she continues to resist, if you watch the vid, she's in danger of harming her own baby.

This may be a case of an Irresistible Force meeting an Immovable Object. There may not be a "perfect solution" that makes everyone warm and fuzzy. But, the problem that is presented is that if the officers are doing their duty properly and have determined this person must be detained or arrested, then that is what must happen.

Again, we need the full incident on vid to know what really happened and to comment on it with adequate knowledge.

PS - Since this is more for random stuff, go ahead and rebut, but I'll refrain from replying just so it doesn't get drawn out too much. I'd be happy to discuss it at length and look for more info/vids/reports and the like if you wanted to, but in a dedicate thread. (Or, PM, if you'd rather. Up to you, I just don't want to focus the discussion too much in a thread dedicated for "random stuff."

[Golden_Gonads]

She was asked repeatedly to stand up and not sit on the floor. She refused. Security asked her to move. She refused. The management asked her. She refused. The police asked her. She refused. She was being arrested and caused a scene. At this point I would wonder at here mental stability. Should the officer have pulled at the kid? No. But other than calling in a specialist and waiting hours, what choice was there? You can't let someone under arrest carry a kid.

[felter]

There is one other thing that keeps on being missed out, and that was at the time she already had an arrest warrant issued for her arrest, so the police had no choice they could not just walk away and leave her they had to arrest her. She refused to allow herself to be arrested, so what were they meant to do, I have not heard what they were meant to do everyone is saying they shouldn't have done this or that but not what they were meant to do.

Here's one other thing, as soon as she heard that the police were being called, just what did she think was going to happen, considering she must have known that there was an arrest warrant for her arrest. As soon as she heard the police were on their way, she should have been out of there as fast as she could go, but she was far too arrogant for that to happen. Obviously she thinks that she was above the law and that they couldn't touch her, and seeing as she used her kid as a shield, she thought that the kid gave her some kind of immunity to being arrested.

The only person I feel sorry for in this whole fiasco, is the kid, not because of what happened but because of who she has as a mother.

[felter]

So every Tuesday I go shopping with my mother and today was no different, though last time this year (YIPPEE). So anyway we got our shopping, paid for it and I was taking it out to the car. This guy walks down the isle pushing a trolly full of shopping and just casually walks out the door, in front of me, it looked very suspect to me, not just because he never came from the tills but he had shopping bags in his trolly but his shopping was in the trolly not the bags. So anyway I went and dumped all the shopping in the car, dumped the trolly and went back for my mother to make sure she could find her way back to the car. Anyway back in the shop the same guy walks past us pushing a trolly full of shopping, I said to my mother watch this, she was like watch what, I pointed the guy out. We stood and watched him as he walk over to the flower stand grabbed a bouquet of flowers dumped them into the trolly, picked up a Christmas potted plant which went in the trolly, before casually walking past a member of staff and a security guard and out the doors. That takes balls, that second trolly would have had probably over £50 of shopping, about £20 just for the flowers alone. It was just the way he did it, he didn't try to hide it or be sneaky about it, he just picked it up and walked out of the shop.

[Morkonan]

... It was just the way he did it, he didn't try to hide it or be sneaky about it, he just picked it up and walked out of the shop.

This kind of thing... It makes me sad.

It's always possible he paid in advance or something, I guess. But, it's doubtful. In this sort of situation, I'd be sorely tempted to ask him directly if he paid for that item. Unfortunately, a lot of people don't shoplift for need, but greed or just because they want the excitement.

When I was a kid, working my series of "first jobs," I worked at a grocery store for awhile. We had a lot of shoplifting going on and it was a bad neighborhood. However, there were times when a person was shoplifting food obviously due to "need." And, when that happened, the managers would usually just let it pass, not infrequently giving the person more food.

There was a policy that we were not allowed to chase shoplifters out of the store. Years later, I learned that an assistant manager I knew from my time there ended up getting shot and killed after chasing a shoplifter. By a shoplifter... stealing from a grocery store for goodness sake.

[Morkonan]

AS: Patch Now - Microsoft Issues Emergency Update to fix critical IE flaw under active exploitation.

"Microsoft has issued an emergency update that fixes a critical Internet Explorer vulnerability that attackers are actively exploiting on the Internet.

The memory-corruption flaw allows attackers to remotely execute malicious code when computers use IE to visit a booby-trapped website, Microsoft said Wednesday. Indexed as ..."

Ah... "IE." Whew, I was worried there for a second. I'm sure the five people that still use Internet Explorer will be very thankful for Microsoft acting to squash this hack. I'm really curious as to how anyone noticed this exploit was already in use in the wild...

Meanwhile, just like it does all the time, the emergency patch push caused my 'puter to crash during update. Windows 10 is just so super-awesome... friggin' thing.

[pjknibbs]

Ah... "IE." Whew, I was worried there for a second. I'm sure the five people that still use Internet Explorer will be very thankful for Microsoft acting to squash this hack. I'm really curious as to how anyone noticed this exploit was already in use in the wild...

You might be surprised--according to StatCounter there are still 6% of people using IE as of October 2018!

[Morkonan]

Ah... "IE." Whew, I was worried there for a second. I'm sure the five people that still use Internet Explorer will be very thankful for Microsoft acting to squash this hack. I'm really curious as to how anyone noticed this exploit was already in use in the wild...

You might be surprised--according to StatCounter there are still 6% of people using IE as of October 2018!

"ROFLCOPTERS! I can't wait to put this new lolwut YTMD I found up on my Myspace page!" = IE user, probably

[Morkonan]

O_M_G_ .... NVidia has done it again.... This is pretty darn awe-inspiring:

These portraits were made by AI. None of these people exist.

Look at those "portraits!" If NVidia's engine can dynamically generate faces like this without all the overhead required, today, think of the realism factor coming into play? No more wooden, expressionless, caricatures of people. While animation has still a ways to go in terms of "The Uncanny Valley" half the battle is just with creating static "lifelike" faces/heads in games. Bodies are easy. (Well, unless they're completely naked, then things get tricky. "Softbody" and all that.)

Amazing capability being demonstrated here. And, a bit unnerving. In the future, will showing one's face be enough to authenticate one as being human?

[Antilogic]

https://www.wigantoday.net/news/custome ... -1-9012638

This country is falling apart. I bet it's those foreigners fault.

[Bishop149]

https://www.wigantoday.net/news/custome ... -1-9012638

This country is falling apart. I bet it's those foreigners fault.

A fine entry into annuals of: News article illustrated by an image of "Angry person looking angry at the inanimate object which has made them angry"

From what I've heard rules like this usually derive from individuals taking liberties;
Customer - The sauce is free right?
Cafe - Yes.
[Customer proceeds to make off with the sauce bottle]

As a student I knew of certain student households whose condiment selection was made up entirely of sachets half-inched en mass from Weatherspoons.

[pjknibbs]

From what I've heard rules like this usually derive from individuals taking liberties;
Customer - The sauce is free right?
Cafe - Yes.
[Customer proceeds to make off with the sauce bottle]

I don't think that's the way it works here? From the article, it sounds like the sauce was added by the sandwich maker, not supplied as a separate bottle. (In any case, places that supply you with sauce these days give you individual portions, not an entire bottle).

[Morkonan]

...As a student I knew of certain student households whose condiment selection was made up entirely of sachets half-inched en mass from Weatherspoons.

I used to dine on "Tomato Soup" made from ketchup, pepper, and saltines I took from "Wendy's." (That's a fast-food hamburger chain, if you didn't know.) They used to set out big bins full of condiments, which I would liberate and take back to my dorm room to heat up in a metal cup that had a heating element in it designed to warm up coffee. Sometimes I'd splurge and use a squirt or two of the hotsauce they had laid out for their chili!

I can still taste the heartburn...

They no longer have condiment bins sitting out so anyone can grab a pack or twelve... Probably my fault.

[Bishop149]

Well, goodbye Alex, you had a good run, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Sandy hook victims win court case granting them access to InfoWars’ internal marketing and financial documents.

[Morkonan]

Well, goodbye Alex, you had a good run, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Sandy hook victims win court case granting them access to InfoWars’ internal marketing and financial documents.

Oh wow... I wonder how many of those documents are going to survive the shredder? Imagine all the terribly damaging crap that could be in those internal docs! Direct evidence of them perpetuating a falsehood just to manipulate the masses and gain exposure and more "clicks!" Inciting riots, hate-mongering, intentionally targeting people... CONSPIRACY!

Heck, criminal charges might come out of this somewhere. Racketeering? Everyone could end up in friggin' prison!

And, there could be some fallout that impacts other media, too, if this gets really intense. While Civil rulings wouldn't translate to criminal law, there could be some things that make examining some law a bit more intense. I don't think the First Amendment is under assault, here, but if enough was uncovered to expose the cesspit that is extremist "media" things could get so uncomfortable that new "law" might be inevitable. I'd imagine a lot of "media" sources are reviewing the contents of their "internal documents" right now.

[felter]

With free speech comes great responsibility, ignore that responsibility enough times and something eventually has to give.

[Morkonan]

With free speech comes great responsibility, ignore that responsibility enough times and something eventually has to give.

It seems these people may have not been engaging in the act of "Free Speech" so much as they were engaging in "Make Money and Gain Influence No Matter The Consequences." This is sad.

[Morkonan]

A great series of visual "Charts" for some of the best games in any genre one could think of: Imgur Gallery - Games Recommendation Charts Collection

Our beloved X series made several of these charts, so you know they're legit! Some really great games listed for some genres, so I'm going to be sure to doublecheck my own libraries.

[BugMeister]

interesting reportage from CBS News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U

- a study in faith and courage..

[Morkonan]

interesting reportage from CBS News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytbDvoU968U

- a study in faith and courage..

Actually, a study in over-reactive social media and a penchant for people to jump on any bandwagon that they feel gives them a justifiable "Righteous Cause."

CNN - A new video shows a different side of the encounter between a Native American elder and teens in MAGA hats.

Some of the epithets the groups yelled at the students, who were just there to catch a bus, were terrible. They were disgusting. But, of course, social media and Social Justice Warriors jumped at the chance to criticize these kids who's only fault was being there to be a target.

Did the kids react? Sure. But, they didn't start this. Various videos show that the "Jewish" group, some sort of Black Hebrew Jewish Group or something (not really sure) started hurling curses and insults at the kids because some of them wore a "Make America Great Again" hat and they were mostly white. The students, from a private Catholic school, had been there to attend an anti-abortion rally and were told to gather at the mall so they could be picked up by the bus. The protestors believed that these students had somehow gone there as some sort of anti-protest and so a particularly verbal and apparently very racist protest group starting yelling insults at them... While some students obviously got the "nervous jitters" and started giggling/reacting, etc, they weren't responding in kind. In short:

They became the picked targets of the protestors through no fault of their own, apparently. They just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, easy meat for very angry people.

This seems to be true by all the evidence available so far. (AFAIK) Aside from just acting like kids, which the students did, they didn't start this, didn't encourage it, didn't do anything to deserve it... But, the ranks of SJW's filtered out reality and started a tidal-wave reaction to the one video that could be interpreted the way they wanted to see it.