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Gts 250?

Post by AgentX2006 » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 19:26

Is a GTS 250 sufficient to run this (X Rebirth). I'm unsure because it's a generation behind the GT 400 series cars but more powerful than say the GT 440 with the exception that the GT 440 supports DX 11 which doesn't look to be an issue since the system requiremnts are

"Graphics: Nvidia GT400 Serie with 512MB RAM, ATI 4870HD with 512MB RAM
DirectX: Version 9.0c"

My real confusion comes from the fact that a GT 440 benchmarks well below a 4870HD.

A little more clarification on which GPU's are supported would be nice.

On a side tangent... What happened to the good old days where the higher the number on your GPU the better it was? That's something we really need to go back to. Buying a graphics card today requires way to much research.

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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 19:42

On the subject of simplifying GPU/CPU numbers so they can be easily compared for performance... can't disagree there but... it is not really realistic to expect it to happen ;)

I think you can probably consider the Radeon the performance criteria, the NVIDIA mention is probably just to say you need that level of shader support I expect.

But the truth is we do not know much for certain yet, the best guide so far is to use the Can You Run It? site for existing systems
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Re: Gts 250?

Post by Alci » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 19:44

AgentX2006 wrote:Is a GTS 250 sufficient to run this.
to run? most likely yes. If it doesn't fail to insufficient memory there is no reason why it would not start. To be playable.. probably yes when you turn effects or even resolution down to some degree.
On a side tangent... What happened to the good old days where the higher the number on your GPU the better it was?
that times ended with 3DFx Voodoo 3 was better then Voodoo 2. Because all later always was like first number indicating series and the rest for model and higher doesn't meant better.

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Post by Geek » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 22:30

I suggest you watch this chart
The GTS 250 or the GT 440 are below the minimum specs (AMD 4870) for Rebirth.
While you may launch the game, you will likely get a slideshow.
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Post by RichardDaborn » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 23:01

I bought myself a GTX 650, not the 250 believe me it has a lot more grunt and is an excellent card. All for under 100 pounds.

Lets put it this way in Terran conflict and GTA4 and Borderlands 2 I went from a total slideshow with all the extra settings turned off to total smooth graphics with virtually no slowdown with all features including PhyX features turned up to the max.
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Post by Delta5.1 » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 23:02

Stay away from anything non GTX in regards to Nvidia if you're planning on gaming.

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Post by RichardDaborn » Fri, 18. Oct 13, 23:15

http://www.game-debate.com/games/index. ... %20Rebirth

I found this chart which has rebirth estimated requirements.
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Post by AgentX2006 » Sat, 19. Oct 13, 00:31

Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:I think you can probably consider the Radeon the performance criteria, the NVIDIA mention is probably just to say you need that level of shader support I expect.

But the truth is we do not know much for certain yet, the best guide so far is to use the Can You Run It? site for existing systems
Well according to them my Video card fails... kind of.

Minimum: Nvidia GT400 series with 512MB RAM or better, ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512MB RAM or better
You Have: GeForce GTS 250

Features: Minimum attributes of your Video Card
Required/You Have
Pixel Shader version - 3.0/4.0
Vertex Shader version - 3.0/4.0
Dedicated Video RAM - 512 MB/512 MB

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Post by pjknibbs » Sat, 19. Oct 13, 07:39

Er, what? How does your card fail when it meets or exceeds the requirement in every section? :?

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Post by AgentX2006 » Sat, 19. Oct 13, 10:08

pjknibbs wrote:Er, what? How does your card fail when it meets or exceeds the requirement in every section? :?
Well like I said earlier a little clarification from the devs on what cards are supported would be nice. Not asking for a full list but GT 400 series as a minimum leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Mainly because as I said before the GT 440 is almost if not the bottom of the barrel for DX11 cards and for a game that is using DX9.0c my GTS 250 would crush it.

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Post by Geek » Sat, 19. Oct 13, 11:08

pjknibbs wrote:Er, what? How does your card fail when it meets or exceeds the requirement in every section? :?
It is not just about compatibility ; it is also a question of raw power.
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Post by MAD_COMMANDER » Sat, 19. Oct 13, 19:33

pjknibbs wrote:Er, what? How does your card fail when it meets or exceeds the requirement in every section? :?
Meeting and exceeding is all relative to with or not your happy with 10fps.


"Minimum specs: bunch of random number that mean what?"

Does it mean flying a ship in an unkown sector with no other NPC will yeild 30fps.?
Flying through argon prime yeilds 5dps.? Fly through a hail of BPPC in a nova renders 0fps because your PC has BSOD due to over heating and lack vram and page filing on a mechanical drive.?

Who knows they just say "playable" if it's bellow 30fps anywhere at full detail then to me it's not really playable!


5dps? lol to much eve in the past! 5fps.
I'll leave that uncorrected for humor.

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Post by DreadedEvil » Tue, 22. Oct 13, 06:17

This thread just cost me $179.99 on a new GTX 660. Oh well, the GTS 250 has served me well for the last few years since I bought it when it was already a mid range video card.

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Post by MAD_COMMANDER » Tue, 22. Oct 13, 22:33

DreadedEvil wrote:This thread just cost me $179.99 on a new GTX 660. Oh well, the GTS 250 has served me well for the last few years since I bought it when it was already a mid range video card.
Good stuff, have fun.

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Post by Rabiator der II. » Tue, 22. Oct 13, 23:16

Geek wrote:
pjknibbs wrote:Er, what? How does your card fail when it meets or exceeds the requirement in every section? :?
It is not just about compatibility ; it is also a question of raw power.
And if you trust the Passmark scores, the GTS 250 is rather weak at a score of 908.

The Radeon HD 4870 (minimum requirement on the AMD side) has a score of 1.359. If that actually indicates the required performance, the GTS 250 is too slow.

The Nvidia GT(X) 400 series is all over the place, starting at the GT430 (Passmark score of 647) but there is also the GTX 480 with a Passmark score of 4.359.

In the absence of more detailed info from Egosoft, I'd say the GTS 450 (Passmark score of 1.539) might be what Nvidia users want as minimum (not recommended!) for X:Rebirth. Or if we are talking new cards, a GTX 650 (Passmark score of 1.831). The GT 640 has a score of 1.287, slightly below the Radeon HD 4870. It may be able to scrape through, but only with low graphics settings :sceptic:
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Post by RichardDaborn » Tue, 22. Oct 13, 23:23

I've got a GTX 650 only a few months old. I keep reading conflicting reports on it and other cards, ooh its too slow, oooh its good enough to be great, oooh its middling.

Truth is I'll wait until XR comes out before going off half cocked and spending hundreds on an even newer card.
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Post by Geek » Wed, 23. Oct 13, 11:13

Rabiator der II. wrote:In the absence of more detailed info from Egosoft, I'd say the GTS 450 (Passmark score of 1.539) might be what Nvidia users want as minimum (not recommended!) for X:Rebirth.
Pretty much what I think.

Keep in mind that "minimum specs" already means some compromise on quality. If you want to play on FullHD + max details you will need to match the recommended setup.
Right on commander !

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