Trump

[Observe]

Anyone who is a good patriot, realizes that the welfare of their nation, depends on the prosperity and security of their global compatriots. When patriotism declines into nationalism, we see people claiming that their country is superior to others. All countries are unique, but when members of one nation, try to make the case that they are superior, patriotism morphs into its antithesis and becomes the enemy of the people.

[Grim Lock]

Anyone who is a good patriot, realizes that the welfare of their nation, depends on the prosperity and security of their global compatriots. When patriotism declines into nationalism, we see people claiming that their country is superior to others. All countries are unique, but when members of one nation, try to make the case that they are superior, patriotism morphs into its antithesis and becomes the enemy of the people.

This.

[Vertigo 7]

Aaaaaand here comes Trump saying he may end AFFH - which prohibits segregation, primarily in suburban neighborhoods.

It's like he doesn't even want to be president anymore, not that he has the authority to just up and remove a law.

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

Aaaaaand here comes Trump saying he may end AFFH - which prohibits segregation, primarily in suburban neighborhoods.

It's like he doesn't even want to be president anymore, not that he has the authority to just up and remove a law.

Where's the "Trump isn't a racist" man when we need him?
This escalation in Trump's racism looks like a plan, like he's been elected to damage unity and equality. Now that he's likely going to lose the White House, he's going all-in on rich supremacy trying to take off any right possible from the lower class. I hope America realizes that taking away low class rights means current middle class is going to be the new lower class.

[Vertigo 7]

Aaaaaand here comes Trump saying he may end AFFH - which prohibits segregation, primarily in suburban neighborhoods.

It's like he doesn't even want to be president anymore, not that he has the authority to just up and remove a law.

Where's the "Trump isn't a racist" man when we need him?
This escalation in Trump's racism looks like a plan, like he's been elected to damage unity and equality. Now that he's likely going to lose the White House, he's going all-in on rich supremacy trying to take off any right possible from the lower class. I hope America realizes that taking away low class rights means current middle class is going to be the new lower class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmFXlt1AFHA

[Vertigo 7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUBAAeuBpPQ

lmao!! The sad part is, it's all in Russian with subtitles and Trump voters won't read it.

[Masterbagger]

To me a patriot is a title that is earned through deeds and actions. While also a true patriot would not go around saying that they are a patriot, as that kind of goes against what a true patriot is, as a true patriot is not interested in the title as to them it is their deeds and actions that count. It's their love and devotion to their country, where the country comes before everything else which may even be their own life or the lives and livelihood of their family. It's a title that should be used sparingly, as not many are willing to make that sacrifice. Trump is most certainly not a patriot, he is a coward and a draft dodger who places money before anything and everything else, including family.

Service to country is not your metric. I served and hatred for me is everywhere. Trump is serving now and hatred for him is everywhere. You don't venerate service. You would love him if he was a lefty. Everything is politics now.

[felter]

To me a patriot is a title that is earned through deeds and actions. While also a true patriot would not go around saying that they are a patriot, as that kind of goes against what a true patriot is, as a true patriot is not interested in the title as to them it is their deeds and actions that count. It's their love and devotion to their country, where the country comes before everything else which may even be their own life or the lives and livelihood of their family. It's a title that should be used sparingly, as not many are willing to make that sacrifice. Trump is most certainly not a patriot, he is a coward and a draft dodger who places money before anything and everything else, including family.

Service to country is not your metric. I served and hatred for me is everywhere. Trump is serving now and hatred for him is everywhere. You don't venerate service. You would love him if he was a lefty. Everything is politics now.

Do not talk to me, do not quote me, have nothing to do with me, as I have no interest in anything you have to say,

[Vertigo 7]

Everything used by them to define themselves as a patriot is centered around one thing - me me me me me me me me me I I I I I I I I I I I I

Called it.

[Vertigo 7]

SCOTUS is expected to rule on the 3 cases concerning Trumpypoo's financial records next week. This is the last of the major rulings before the election and there's some predictions that they will rule against Trump given the resurgence of Trump and Putin being joined at the hip, once again.

[Masterbagger]

Do not talk to me, do not quote me, have nothing to do with me, as I have no interest in anything you have to say,

Medicine is supposed to taste bad. I fulfill your every definition of patriot. You tooted my horn and I came. Ok, phrasing there could be better.

[pjknibbs]

Service to country is not your metric. I served and hatred for me is everywhere. Trump is serving now and hatred for him is everywhere. You don't venerate service. You would love him if he was a lefty. Everything is politics now.

No, I'm reasonably certain that any President of any stripe who does the stuff Trump does would be reviled by the left. The real sad thing is that he isn't equally reviled by the right, considering he's an obvious incompetent racist.

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

Service to country is not your metric. I served and hatred for me is everywhere. Trump is serving now and hatred for him is everywhere. You don't venerate service. You would love him if he was a lefty. Everything is politics now.

Come on! Trump's strategy against covid is killing tens of thousands people more than the ones who'd die with a proper lockdown. What kind of service is this?

Everything used by them to define themselves as a patriot is centered around one thing - me me me me me me me me me I I I I I I I I I I I I

Called it.

GG easy.

[clakclak]

But you'll never find these people asking their country to do what's right, even if the outcome doesn't benefit them in any way.

[...]


To me a patriot is a title that is earned through deeds and actions. While also a true patriot would not go around saying that they are a patriot, as that kind of goes against what a true patriot is, as a true patriot is not interested in the title as to them it is their deeds and actions that count. It's their love and devotion to their country, where the country comes before everything else which may even be their own life or the lives and livelihood of their family. It's a title that should be used sparingly, as not many are willing to make that sacrifice. [...]

Honestly that sounds a lot more like a nationalist than a patriot. If you put your country before the people who live in it, even before your own family, than what are you even fighting for? Just a bunch of symbols and words empty of all meaning.

I will never put the flag of any one country above my family, call me a coward or unpatriotic for it, but I think that if you can disregard the live of the people closest to you, than disregarding other human life becomes easy. And when that happens you quickly find yourself fighting for the wrong side. Suddenly you can justify slaughtering innocents in the name of patriotism. Suddenly it becomes easy to see anyone who is not a patriot from your point of view as an enemy. Suddenly that flag you once loved as a symbol of freedom has turned into a symbol of oppression and you are the oppressor.

[Grim Lock]

I served and hatred for me is everywhere. Trump is serving now and hatred for him is everywhere.

Deservedly so, you blindly support an incompetent dumbass who's doing nothing but throw around playground insults, alienate his international allies to the point where they mock him and your country, plunge the country and thus the world into a longer economic recession due his utter incompetence in handling the corona-virus that btw is killing WAY more Americans than it should but suddenly that doesn't matter, guess life isn't that sacred, you put high praise on symbols that represent the wish for slavery while in support of a man who does one racist thing after another. You're in support of a man whose supporter run around in t-shirts that say "Make Liberals cry again" but when they do you get all offended and uppety. You're getting what you deserve.

[matthewfarmery]

I found this,

How to brief the president

https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics ... -politics/

So to get his attention, you need to bring pictures, an animated video, before he really becomes interested in what your saying.

I mean, seriously, how dumb can things get? This is the kind of person you simply don't want in the oval office. Someone who has an attention span of a gnat.

Now when it comes to the russian bounties, there still some mixed reports coming from the WH, some are saying that he did read the brief about this, others are saying he did not. even though it was in the brief for that day in question.

I still think he knew about it, but his ties to russia are too strong, he won't come out and openly admit it.

I really hope his tax returns are revealed, I think that will be one step too far for trump, and he will probably resign. I don't see him sticking with the job if people know the truth on where he got all that money from.

[fiksal]

You would love him if he was a lefty. Everything is politics now.

I can speak for felter.

You have no clue at all or just pretend to not have one.

No one on the left would like if Trump were Democrat, are you serious? Have you seen what Trump's values are, have you seen his actions?

Every politician who acts like Trump needs to be banned from politics permanently. And that's not because of Trump, that's just some common sense.


He is only yours, he has all your values and morals

[Vertigo 7]

It's hard for a fanatic to admin they were wrong. That goes against the point of being a fanatic - you're always right.

[fiksal]

It's hard for a fanatic to admin they were wrong. That goes against the point of being a fanatic - you're always right.

In what reality does he think we'd accept the racist views and the actions of a criminal?

Is he trolling or does he really think we are part of his monkey sphere?

But you'll never find these people asking their country to do what's right, even if the outcome doesn't benefit them in any way.

[...]
To me a patriot is a title that is earned through deeds and actions. While also a true patriot would not go around saying that they are a patriot, as that kind of goes against what a true patriot is, as a true patriot is not interested in the title as to them it is their deeds and actions that count. It's their love and devotion to their country, where the country comes before everything else which may even be their own life or the lives and livelihood of their family. It's a title that should be used sparingly, as not many are willing to make that sacrifice. [...]

Honestly that sounds a lot more like a nationalist than a patriot. If you put your country before the people who live in it, even before your own family, than what are you even fighting for? Just a bunch of symbols and words empty of all meaning.

I will never put the flag of any one country above my family, call me a coward or unpatriotic for it, but I think that if you can disregard the live of the people closest to you, than disregarding other human life becomes easy. And when that happens you quickly find yourself fighting for the wrong side. Suddenly you can justify slaughtering innocents in the name of patriotism. Suddenly it becomes easy to see anyone who is not a patriot from your point of view as an enemy. Suddenly that flag you once loved as a symbol of freedom has turned into a symbol of oppression and you are the oppressor.

Patriotism deserves a thread on its own. It's a complex one.
I think you are both right in parts.

The definition of the word is very simple and very broad.

What is really true patriotism and where it becomes nationalism? It's hard for me to say personally.

If I were to shape this concept, as felter, I'd say one should prioritize well being of a country, and by country I mean people that live there. This means, at the very least, paying taxes and supporting the development. Supporting social systems and safety net systems. Promoting healthcare and education, working on making it both affordable and accessible, to 100% of population (not 99%, but a 100%). It means not being egotistical.

And as clakclak I'd say this doesnt mean puting a country, a flag or a symbol before its people. No amount of war or violence makes one a patriot.

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

Honestly, the fact they called "Patriot" a missile tells me a lot about how patriotism is viewed by the average American member of the establishment. It's almost like "being a true patriot" meant bombing anyone who maybe thinks different than you.