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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Mon, 1. Apr 19, 04:56

Masterbagger wrote:
Sat, 30. Mar 19, 04:12

Here is a famous JFK quote.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzRg--jhO8g

Would that statement be recognizable as a democrat talking point today? I don't think it would.
Since you posted this, I take it you agree with my statements then?

One can interpret that being in favor of paying taxes (and even higher taxes when one is way above middle income), not dodging them, is a way for one to do that something for the country. Make it better.

As opposed to demanding cutting of social services with the taxes, to enrich one-self.
Exactly the opposite of what JFK said there.


Still, who can claim this talking point nowadays anyways?


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You have echoed things that the democrats want that our government was really never intended to do. Government should get the heck out of healthcare and marriage. They would run better that way.
Civil rights shouldnt be decided on State by State cases, since Constitution overrides them. I thought the history of US was pretty clear on this.
But even if you were to interpret it differently, there's no drawback for government to decide on marriage/civil unions before States get to.

As for healthcare. Either way I suppose. The drawback here though, if richer States come up with their universal healthcare, than States with less income will not be able to match it and probably will be worse of. Compared to coastal states, for example.

That is even assuming Republican controlled Federal government would even allow such a thing.
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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Mon, 1. Apr 19, 16:24

BugMeister wrote:
Wed, 20. Mar 19, 22:17
- in theory, you don't actually need the Mueller report..

Trump should immediately be indicted for his transgressions, lies, manipulations and cheating while in the office of the Presidency..
Those Replicants responsible, should be censured for allowing his candidacy in the first place - they knew what they were getting..
Putin's mafia continues to suck money from the US economy, via a multitude of money-laundering exploits - enabled by gangster oligarchs..

- in the real world.. :wink:
might as well talk to meself.. :roll:
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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Mon, 1. Apr 19, 16:32

Don't need Mueller's report to know Trump is a bad president. But that's not how it works in US.
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Re: Trump

Post by Grim Lock » Mon, 1. Apr 19, 20:32

Btw are there not several people in jail now as a direct consequence of this investigation? All of them in one way or the other tied to and hired by Mr "i only hire the best"? And aren't there still several investigations going on? (btw completely unrelated but just saw a few Betsy deVoss things, lol yeah education is not going to get better under Trump, but then again he "loves the uneducated")
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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Tue, 2. Apr 19, 08:40

following on from the somewhat flaky appointments of De Vos, Barr and Kavanaugh - as well as those of Manafort and Flynn, et al
it now seems that Stephen Moore's dodgy appointment to the Federal Reserve is coming under intense scrutiny..

"Stephen Moore isn't just another unfortunate selection for the amateur president.
He is a uniquely ridiculous choice quite possibly the least defensible of the Trump presidency to date."

- wow, that's a new low, even for this blatantly partisan stuff-box of an idiot-in-chief..

The Replicants are obviously out of control.. :(

PS: is it just me, or does Barr look like an Elton John clone - I keep expecting him to start singing Candle In The Wind..
- it's a little bit funny.. :lol:
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Re: Trump

Post by Bishop149 » Tue, 2. Apr 19, 16:20

Morkonan wrote:
Fri, 29. Mar 19, 20:16
This is also why languages are different, hence the term "languages" implying "plurality."

https://examples.yourdictionary.com/exa ... onyms.html
^-- Are you maintaining that the only acceptable understanding of any particular word must and always is the same in all situations? If so, you have left the path of wisdom.
There is usually a pretty good reason behind most homonyms. Reasons of either logic or (more often) etymology
By way of example:
Bark - The noise a dog makes - Proto-Germanic "berkan"
Bark - The covering of a tree - Proto-Germanic "barkuz"
An interesting example of two different words from the same root that have converged to the same derivation. Such things are more commonly explained by different roots.

Green - A colour - Old English "grene" defined as "the colour of living plants"
Green - Environmentalist - Because plants are green
An interesting case of language kinda coming full circle there.

You are making such an argument for your variant meaning of "Left (political)" and "Communist".
What is the logical or etymological reason for your new homonym?
I put it to you the only such reasons is "Because Americans think so". . . . which is if I may say rather egocentric.
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In the United States, there isn't one "Lorry." Not one. On no road, in not garage, would one find a "Lorry." But, we have a metric f'ton of "trucks." You are surely capable of understanding what an American means when they say "truck," right? (This argument about how words may have a full range of difference in meaning depending on when, where, and how they are used is just ridiculous. The fact that we can communicate here and now should be enough to make this truth obvious - Words can have an acceptable level of variance in meaning that still allow for rational communication. End of story, quibble over stringent definitions of words if you wish, but its nonsensical to do so.)
You're making my point for me here.
The fact that one word is UK exclusive and the other is US exclusive is neither here nor there as it doesn't affect the meaning in the slightest.
If you google "Lorry"you will pretty much entirely get pictures of one type of thing, something that looks like this.
If you google "Truck" you get a lot of the same but you also start get a lot of things which look like this.
Hence the word truck is more confusing, it hinders clarity of communication. To resolve this you Americans have helpfully added a classifier to the latter, it is a "pickup truck"
See how that works? Now to bring things back around we have "Extreme Left" meaning "Adjacent to Communist" we could add a classifier "American extreme left" which would mean "right-leaning democratic socialist", but I dunno why we'd bother seeing as there are already words to describe that. . . . . and I just used them. :roll:
It's really not difficult.
Some Americans will call a certain political candidate a "Communist," but even a "Communist Party" American candidate doesn't truly fit the most extreme, textbook, definition of "Communism." And, I suppose you'd just chalk that up to "Americans not understanding words."
Pretty much, yep.
Or prehaps, Americans egocentrically redefining words around their own context whilst ignoring the rest of the world both current and historical
Does it matter one little bit that "The Green Party" in the U.K. isn't, in fact, "green?" Does it matter that I don't see much "labour" being undertaken by "The Labour Party?"
Any excellent example to contrast.
"Green" could seem a little confusing (although actually not, as I discovered upon looking up the etymology). It might lead to the question: "So are you 'green' because that's your party colour or because you are environmentalist?" To which the answer is "both". So not especially confusing after all.

"Labour" is incredibly straight forward and requires no explanation if you understand political science. "Labour" is a key term in economics, the "Labour movement" sought to address the fact that those that generate labour are unfairly rewarded under capitalism. The political party that represents this position is therefore called "Labour".
If the conservatives were equally candid they be called "Capitalist". . . . instead they are candid in a different way, they like the economic system as it is, hence "Conservative".
As a rustic and uneducated American, barely risen above the detritus of my hopelessly primitive Colonial surroundings, unfamiliar with things like words and definishuns, I appreciate your efforts to advise me regarding what my common fellow Americans may be thinking about when they use such contraptions. It is all very confusing and it must be entirely due to me being an American.
Consistently accused of being anti-American and yet this is the response when I try to give your countrymen more credit that you do? Yeah ok. :roll:

You know this whole discussion reminds me rather of the following:
https://twitter.com/glinner/status/1015 ... 08?lang=en

A bit of context, Graham Linehan is a comedy writer who's stuff is reasonably well known in the UK. He has also revealed himself to be a colossal transphobe.
Like most transphobes he really does not understand the intricacies of language or the biology around sex and gender very well at all and thus routinely says things which are just plain false (such as "Men are XY, Women are XX, simples").
Due to his apparent love of over simplistic largely meaningless definitions in regard to gender, in the thread above he was challenged to provide an accurate definition of "A chair" and unsurprisingly makes an equally large hash of it.
One lesson (among many) to be learned: Accurate and consistent definitions are important to clarity of communication and shouldn't be ****ed with.
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Re: Trump

Post by Morkonan » Tue, 2. Apr 19, 21:47

Bishop149 wrote:
Tue, 2. Apr 19, 16:20
...You're making my point for me here.
The fact that one word is UK exclusive and the other is US exclusive is neither here nor there as it doesn't affect the meaning in the slightest...
We're discussing the colloquial use of words... And, you're maintaining that when someone uses a particular word which has a strict definition in a different context, they are wrongly using the word they have chosen when the other people in the room understand exactly what it was that person was trying to communicate? The purpose of words, if they could be said to exist in some platonic sense, is to facilitate communication. These are not polysci majors we're talking about, here, and the context is not one of discussing comparative political paradigms. If I had been, instead, referring to a polysci/history/anthropology professor's commentary, then the contextual definition of "Far Left" may have been much more rigorous. But, that wasn't the context, was it?

There is a difference in colloquial, everyday, contextual discussion of the concept of "Far Left" amongst the general citizenry of the U.S. and U.K. If you can not accept that situation can exist, it is not your understanding of political, economic, or social movements that is flawed but your understanding of people and the development of culture that is lacking.

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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Wed, 3. Apr 19, 09:54

Q1: the Mueller Report is currently held at the office of the AG. Wm. Barr - who else has access to it at present..?
Q2: does Donald J. Drumpf believe his own myth.?
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Re: Trump

Post by Bishop149 » Wed, 3. Apr 19, 11:02

Morkonan wrote:
Tue, 2. Apr 19, 21:47
We're discussing the colloquial use of words... And, you're maintaining that when someone uses a particular word which has a strict definition in a different context, they are wrongly using the word they have chosen when the other people in the room understand exactly what it was that person was trying to communicate?
This is that American ego-centrism again, you are assuming "everyone in the room" is either American or has a reasonable understanding of the eccentricities of American politics.
I put it to you that this is not always true, can not always be assumed and indeed is pretty likely not to be true in this very forum (although we do all seem more politically informed than I would guess is average).
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The purpose of words, if they could be said to exist in some platonic sense, is to facilitate communication. These are not polysci majors we're talking about, here, and the context is not one of discussing comparative political paradigms. If I had been, instead, referring to a polysci/history/anthropology professor's commentary, then the contextual definition of "Far Left" may have been much more rigorous. But, that wasn't the context, was it?

There is a difference in colloquial, everyday, contextual discussion of the concept of "Far Left" amongst the general citizenry of the U.S. and U.K. If you can not accept that situation can exist, it is not your understanding of political, economic, or social movements that is flawed but your understanding of people and the development of culture that is lacking.
I can acknowledge that it exists but I neither have to approve of it nor encourage it.

The purpose of words is indeed to facilitate communication, what else could it be?
In every day language (as you pointed out) the result of the natural evolution of language can be confusion arising such as words having multiple meanings, this may be "natural" but this doesn't make it any less confusing. . . especially for a member of the "out group" (who you seem to consider irrelevant). English is particularly bad, have you ever tried to explain this crap to someone learning to speak it? That sure is conversation and a half.

What I primarily object to (and I suspect this is were we disagree) is when people start introducing such confusions into ACADEMIC terminology, such as the words we're discussing.
Words whose entire purpose is to cut through that mess of evolved language and facilitate clear unambiguous communication. . . . Why do you think academic circles are full of complex terminology and long fancy words? The person who coined the terminology for "inserting nucleic acids into a cell" could have called the process "Insertion" a nice simple pre-existing word that partially describes the process, but this is confusing, what are you inserting? In to what? So instead they coined a new word, they called it "transfection".
Now suppose I come along and decide to start using the word "transfection" to mean oh I dunno the lytic process by which a virus kills a cell . . . . well done me, I've just destroyed the purpose of that word.

I doubly object to it if the person doing the redefining is doing it very deliberately in order to satisfy an agenda to distort meaning. To try and lead people into thinking something that isn't true, such as "Bernie Sanders is a Communist"
Now, I don't think that you or most of the American public are attempting to push such an agenda when they incorrectly use the term "far left" but I sure as hell think that Tucker Carlson is . . . . I sure as hell think that McCarthyism corrupted such words in order to pursue an agenda of elimination. Finally I think that the reason that the US public perception of these words today is so skewed from reality is likely a direct result of your "Red Scares" and the surrounding government and media driven agenda.
The word for this kind of misinformation is: Propaganda . . . . . and IMO it or it's lasting effects should be encouraged, rather we should attempt to limit their impact and correct the bias they have introduced.
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Re: Trump

Post by Observe » Wed, 3. Apr 19, 18:04

BugMeister wrote:
Wed, 3. Apr 19, 09:54
Q2: does Donald J. Drumpf believe his own myth.?
Do you believe your own myth? Of course you do and so does he.

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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Wed, 3. Apr 19, 18:16

..today he said his father, Fred Drumpf, was born in Germany
- he wasn't..
- he was born in New York..
- Don Drumpf cheats and golf, and also lies about his height, business acumen and intelligence..

- I know that I'm at least as stupid as the next man..
- does he..? :gruebel:
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Re: Trump

Post by Bishop149 » Wed, 3. Apr 19, 18:22

Well, things might be about to get interesting
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/03/poli ... index.html

Trump: "This report complete exonerates me, it wouldn't bother me at all if it was released publicly"
[looks likely it might be released publicly]
Trump: "THIS IS A DISGRACE!! WHY WOULD IT BE RELEASED?! UNFAIR!!"

If he is indeed innocent, well damn he does a stunningly good impression of being guilty.
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Re: Trump

Post by Morkonan » Thu, 4. Apr 19, 00:23

Bishop149 wrote:
Wed, 3. Apr 19, 11:02
This is that American ego-centrism again, you are assuming "everyone in the room" is either American or has a reasonable understanding of the eccentricities of American politics.
I put it to you that this is not always true, can not always be assumed and indeed is pretty likely not to be true in this very forum (although we do all seem more politically informed than I would guess is average).
It's a Trump Thread.

And, whether or not I like it, he's an American.

The subject at hand is an American Political Commentator. She is on an American Cable News Channel. She even speaks "American." I bet she even uses an American toothpaste and buys candy bars and "cookies" (COOKIES) that are likely made in America. Oh, and she primarily talks about American stuffs and when other Americans talk about her, they're generally Americans at the time they're talking about her.

Unusual, I know, to then suggest that words that rely on a colloquial American contextual understanding are more likely to be accurate descriptions... in this context.
I can acknowledge that it exists but I neither have to approve of it nor encourage it.
Ah, but that then depends upon what context one is going to enforce, right? If I say she's "Far Left" then maybe I'm saying she's driving on the wrong side of the road, like you guys do... ;)
..What I primarily object to (and I suspect this is were we disagree) is when people start introducing such confusions into ACADEMIC terminology, such as the words we're discussing.
I agree. But, only up to the point that such an insistence prevents the continuance of effective communication and understanding. I tried to explain histamines to someone today. You're a biologist. You know what they are. You, in fact, have much better authoritarian knowledge of histamines than I do. If not, maybe you got robbed when you paid for your degree. :) But, rest assured, I have confidence that you can offer a better textbook-accurate description of how and why the human body responds to some things with the production of "histamines." I was reduced to "baby talk" in order to make my point. Which, in the end wasn't entirely valid in this context, but my attempt at explanation was not instructional, but to illustrate a process using something I mistakenly thought a common person could readily understand. I was mistaken. (Faith in humanity lost, but regained a bit later I guess.)

See? I didn't have to give the person some biologically accurate concept of "histamines" to explain something. All I had to do was sufficiently, for their understanding, illustrate the mechanism being described, what was being tested for and how such tests were conducted. The "word" was something they were familiar with after it was reminded to them that "anti-histamine" actually has a basis for the inclusion of the word... histamine. And, thus, the concept of measuring a human being's body's reaction to the introduction of a substance was illustrated succesfully and, more importantly, practically and sufficiently for the purpose of the discussion. It doesn't matter one bit that histamines didn't have anything to do with what was being discussed, only that basic concept was understood.
..Why do you think academic circles are full of complex terminology and long fancy words? The person who coined the terminology for "inserting nucleic acids into a cell" could have called the process "Insertion" a nice simple pre-existing word that partially describes the process, but this is confusing, what are you inserting? In to what? So instead they coined a new word, they called it "transfection".
Now suppose I come along and decide to start using the word "transfection" to mean oh I dunno the lytic process by which a virus kills a cell . . . . well done me, I've just destroyed the purpose of that word.
And, this is exactly why I pointed out that you have conversations with fellow knowledgeable professionals in your field that have clear, concise, understanding of the words and terminology used in your profession. Remember that? There ya go. That is one of the components of the definition of a "Profession." No foolin'. One of the components of identifying whether or not something is truly a "Profession" is whether or not they have special words for stuffs... :) You won't be likely to find any true Profession that doesn't have special words for stuffs. That Profession's understanding of those words used in an appropriate professional context will be markedly different than a non-professional understanding. At the very least, it will be different and much less well comprehended in full by those without professional induction.
I doubly object to it if the person doing the redefining is doing it very deliberately in order to satisfy an agenda to distort meaning. To try and lead people into thinking something that isn't true, such as "Bernie Sanders is a Communist"
I agree completely. Further, the authority and motivation of such people has to be called into question when those observing such a thing are aware the commentator truly knows what that word means. "Joe the Plumber" may be able to call Bernie Sanders a communist. But, I understand that he's not using a textbook definition for that word. But, if a "journalist" does that or a truly schooled politician does that? That's a blatant misuse of the word.
..I sure as hell think that Tucker Carlson is .
He's a blowhard idgit that gets fed food pellets when he capers in front of the audience... Kind of hard to accept him as an authority on anything, really.
. . . I sure as hell think that McCarthyism corrupted such words in order to pursue an agenda of elimination.
It wasn't the definitions that caused the problem, it was the idea of "UnAmericanism" and the true whichhunt that surrounded the "Red Menace." Which was actually "a thing," but something that was blown far out of proportion and then used to promote an extremist agenda.
Finally I think that the reason that the US public perception of these words today is so skewed from reality is likely a direct result of your "Red Scares" and the surrounding government and media driven agenda.
It's simple. It's what anyone does when they arguing against something and they've decided they wish to overstate a point. It's not different than a kid accusing a parent of "You never let me do anything." It's an appeal to extremes, a point at which the thing is so overstated it doesn't make sense. But, gosh, it sure sounds serious, right? It's not political error or purposeful misuse, it's dialectical misdirection... :)

"YOU'RE ALWAYS SAYIN' THAT STUFF!" <---- I type so much crap that eventually I'm going to say something twice. But, I also type so much crap that it's rare I say the same thing twice. Verbosity is neato.
The word for this kind of misinformation is: Propaganda . . . . . and IMO it or it's lasting effects should be encouraged, rather we should attempt to limit their impact and correct the bias they have introduced.
It's the appeal to emotion, the appeal of a countering extreme that can raise the idea of "drama." It's really not political. It's an argumentative tactic that, unfortunately, is easily adopted when emotional appeals concerning politics have been called for.

"Your a Capitalist and the means all you care about is money and that means all you care about is the rich making more money."
"No. I'm pro-capitalism because of the immense opportunity it opens up for enterprising hard-working individuals."
"WE WILL EAT TEH RICH U CAPITALIST PIG!"

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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Thu, 4. Apr 19, 11:54

- are you sure Drumpf is really an American? :gruebel:
- even he's not sure what he is, as far as I can see..

- his loyalties appear to shift from minute to minute..
- yet somehow always end up as self-aggrandisement..
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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Thu, 4. Apr 19, 19:48

well his father apparently was born in Germany, and if he was never naturalized then Trump isnt an American.
Putin also worked in Germany. Coincidence? I think not


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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Thu, 4. Apr 19, 22:41

gosh, fiks.. :o
- you should get onto Wiki straight away
- they made a mistake..!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Trump

Freddy T was born in new York - in the Bronx
- he was despised by many..
- Woody Guthrie wrote a song about him..

PS - the forensic results of Don Drumpf's ongoing IRS (mandatory) inspection should be interesting..
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Re: Trump

Post by Mightysword » Fri, 5. Apr 19, 01:07

fiksal wrote:
Thu, 4. Apr 19, 19:48
well his father apparently was born in Germany, and if he was never naturalized then Trump isnt an American.
Putin also worked in Germany. Coincidence? I think not

Hey I just invented a conspiracy that's more plausible than the pizza -ring.
Eh I know you're saying it part in jet but that's still false btw. Anyone who born in the US are qualified to be naturally born citizen. Else Obama wouldn't be the previous president. Trump was born in New York, and that's the only thing that matter regarding that particular qualification to hold the President office. It doesn't matter even if his father was an Alien born on Mar. ;)

In fact, that particular piece of law had caused quite a few griefs, and there is a not so small number of people want to see that change.
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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Fri, 5. Apr 19, 16:03

Mightysword wrote:
Fri, 5. Apr 19, 01:07
Eh I know you're saying it part in jet but that's still false btw. Anyone who born in the US are qualified to be naturally born citizen.
Damnit, you are right.

What if Trump was born.... in ...Russia? In town "New Siberia" instead of New York


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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Fri, 5. Apr 19, 16:04

Alex Acosta comes under the spotlight,
- out from under the rocks and shopping trolleys at the bottom of the swamp..
- slithering, blinking and wriggling into the light..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxFEUXIqBw

- slime, crime, cover-ups and devious dealings..
- Acosta was Drumpf's choice..
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Re: Trump

Post by Masterbagger » Sat, 6. Apr 19, 04:39

Who made that man a gunner?

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