Trump

[Grim Lock]

It's a situation of your own making.

Exactly! It may not what we want, but it is what we deserved. I just hope that the people who throw around such accusations realize and include themselves in that responsibility instead of excluding themselves from it. If they are Americans of course.

Well can't say i disagree with the you got what you deserved sentiment, though now you've not only got to solve the problems that got Trump elected in the first place AND fix the damage Trump has done. Not a great place to be in and taking collective responsability for what went wrong is sadly one of the US's poorest attributes.

Is there anything happening at all to break out of this spiral of beeing less able to compromise and egotistical thinking? As far as i can tell it's only gotten worse.

Aside from that:

Man that current abortion debate is anoying as hell.
It just comes of as so hypocritical. No you can't have an abortion! All life is sacred. No you can't take my gun, my right to bear arms and kill trespassers is sacred! Oh you can't afford healthcare for yourself or your baby that you wanted to abort in the first place? Well screw you if you don't make enough money to pay for your healthcare you can go die in the streets! Yeah JESUUUSSSS!

[BugMeister]

- and then there's the Presidential Records Act - which has been in force for over a hundred years..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udaE5VZnKos

- what'cha gonna do 'bout it, Billy Barr..?
- what'cha gonna do 'bout it, Donny-boy..??

- Donny Drumpf is a made man in the Russian Mafia
- he's bidding to become a Capo for Don Vlad..
- he doesn't give a rat's ass for the USA, it's all about him, his NY mob and their expensive lawyers..
- just ask Michael Cohen..

- don't bother to ask McConnell - he's playing Fu Manchu in panto at the moment..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pungvyMokqM
- don't bother to ask the idiotic Dizzy Lizzie Graham, he's got other lies to concern himself with..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDFDihyEwsk
- don't bother to check in with Biff Murdoch's tower of lies at Faux News. they're only in it for the money..

meanwhile, life goes on..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfJD4OKrbmo

another harpoon launched at Manafort..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jc8_1oMlJ4

- reel 'em in..

[BugMeister]

- itching to go to war against Iran.. the madman in the White House:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kWTNiKoVLw

with a President who nonchalantly spouts of killing his "treasonous" political opponents:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMbJr4RSSAY

- what could possibly go wrong..??

[RegisterMe]

Mueller to speak live, for the first time, about the Russia report at 1100 EST (ie <5mins)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKzsDJilnlA

[Bishop149]

If we had confidence the President clearly did not commit a crime, we would have said so.

This is about a damning as carefully constructed legalese can get.

Mueller statement further clarifies three things that should be obvious already to anyone who has examined this in any depth at all.
1) That his report constitutes a referral of the matter to the only authority that can "try" the President, namely Congress, as well as a recommendation that they begin the process of doing so.
2) That AG Barr dramatically misrepresented his report.
3) A rebuttal to the fact that the media has focused primarily on what various people have said about his report rather than what the report itself actually says (although this is admittedly complicated by the reports partial redaction).

[fiksal]

So Mueller publicly states that the president of US cant commit any crimes (or charged with any federal crimes).


From now on, when anyone asks me about who the law applies to in US, I'll point that out.

[Olterin]

So Mueller publicly states that the president of US cant commit any crimes (or charged with any federal crimes).


From now on, when anyone asks me about who the law applies to in US, I'll point that out.

Minor technical difference, isn't it more like, the President of the US cannot be tried for any crimes committed while he's still in office? Would it not be possible to prosecute past Presidents, should they have committed crimes while in office? Difference being, "the President cannot commit crimes" would mean, any criminal action cannot be prosecuted at a later date when the individual in question is no longer President, whereas "cannot be prosecuted while in office" speaks for itself. I'm legitimately curious, which one is it, does anyone know or would like to take an educated guess?

[RegisterMe]

Also does that apply only to Federal crimes? I don't imagine that the SDNYC have downed tools, but I'd be interesting to know for certain.

[Bishop149]

Minor technical difference, isn't it more like, the President of the US cannot be tried for any crimes committed while he's still in office?

Its more, The President can not be tried by anyone but Congress.

But it does seem rather odd (and not at all right) that a person can essentially be above the law for 4-8 years as long as their party controls one of the two houses of Congress.
Also that "try" seems to cover the construction of a valid case that could be prosecuted.

In other news . . . . Your President is a petulant toddler (or at least, his staff think he needs to be handled like one).
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/29/us/p ... -ship.html

Thank heaven there isn't a ship called the USS Barack Obama (yet)

[fiksal]

So Mueller publicly states that the president of US cant commit any crimes (or charged with any federal crimes).


From now on, when anyone asks me about who the law applies to in US, I'll point that out.

Minor technical difference, isn't it more like, the President of the US cannot be tried for any crimes committed while he's still in office? Would it not be possible to prosecute past Presidents, should they have committed crimes while in office? Difference being, "the President cannot commit crimes" would mean, any criminal action cannot be prosecuted at a later date when the individual in question is no longer President, whereas "cannot be prosecuted while in office" speaks for itself. I'm legitimately curious, which one is it, does anyone know or would like to take an educated guess?

That's not so minor. Imagine if this applied to citizens of the State, where a crime is only prosecuted after their employment ends.

Plus, prosecuting years later is always harder.

[BugMeister]

small wonder that Replicants aren't following-up on election interference..
- schemes and memes from inside the alt-right goldmine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eTTDNFVpYU

- seems Billy Barr also has skeletons in his history..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41SxwmRUqEg
- tales from deep inside the rat's nest..

- Donald Trump must be shakin' in his boots..
- he should make a deal and resign..

[Masterbagger]

President Trump will run again in 2020. I kind of wonder if there are any republicans that will even try to run against him in a primary. They would get schlonged.

[Grim Lock]

President Trump will run again in 2020. I kind of wonder if there are any republicans that will even try to run against him in a primary. They would get schlonged.

I kinda hope some will, would be good to know that there are at least few republicans that have some principles they are willing to defy the orange turd for.

[BugMeister]

- trump's 20/20 campaign will be a three-ring circus, or a horrible fear-inducing nightmare..
- he will most likely campaign on his magnificent patriotism
- after all, he's so completely devoted to the US that he is even willing to lie and cheat to keep the post..

his little Korean dictator friend simply murders any witnesses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWSlFaFCxD4

- he's one of Donny's heroes..
- natch..!!


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- we have all been here before..
- to hear Junior babble on the 2016 trail, is a lesson in political imbecility
- later to become an unelected member of the White House staff (- despite security credentials being questioned..)
- this is from 2 years ago:

..the Trump family are under the impression that they OWN the USA..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5h4umkSsZs

- just listen to how Trump Jnr disses the whole nation..
- claiming bare-faced, that the system is corrupt, so "wadda 'bout dat"

- watching the Trumps is like watching an episode of the Sopranos..
- a really badly scripted episode..

- you can imagine them saying stuff like "Yadda, yadda, yadda"
- "badda-bing badda-boom"

- man, they thought they had elected a carney, but found out later that he's a crook..
- now they all want to be made men..

- awful embarrassment for the Republican party - they got high-jacked..

- man. he's priceless..!!
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PS: - the "Fear and Loathing" campaign is already in full swing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBtKCb_q1io
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ler-russia

- I predict tanks on the White House lawns for the 4th July celebrations..
- popcorn, anyone..??

[RegisterMe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byQGXyOZDC4

This Maddow piece is about Flynn, Manafort and some guy who ran a bank in Chicago called Calk and is worth a watch. I'd be particularly interested in any American opinion on this.

[BugMeister]

WELCOME, UNCLE SAM..
Looks like Donny's enjoying his visit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYk6rwc_cAM
- Ivanka looking radiant as always..
- Trump high-fives Madge..
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- oh, THAT George (BabyFace) Nader..
- Erik (The Enforcer) Prince - Elliot (FatMan) Broidey and BabyFace have been up to naughty business:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIQdNgMAfrk
- it's just another episode in the Trump Saga**

**..think Sopranos played by Muppets..
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IT'S THE BLIMP..!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgdxeLLLnk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpA4XpnnI_U
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Jared (DeadEyes) Kushner becomes robotic in his defence of fascist/racism..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQMSNrKShug
YADDA_YADDA.. Boom - tish..!!

[BugMeister]

bring on the warm jets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3fd2020a9I

- here there be dragons..

[Usenko]

Bugmeister, could you do something for me (and maybe others)?

I know you like posting videos in this thread. There's nothing wrong with that. But generally I don't watch them! Nothing personal; I have just seen a lot of rubbish on YouTube and tend to be pretty selective about what I watch. I almost never click on a video just on someone's say so.

Instead of giving cryptic hints, would it be possible for you to give just a 2-3 sentence précis of what's in the video? If you think it'll ruin the surprise, you could spoiler tag it, but maybe it might get more people watching the videos you post.

[Grim Lock]

+1 Agreed!

[fiksal]

here are some victories to brighten the mood:

$19B disaster relief package, which would go to Puerto Rico (though I assume not limited to)

as you may know Trump hasnt been onboard with it without his southern fence, but, he caved, which is a plus

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/06/politics ... index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/23/politics ... index.html