Re: Trump
Posted: Mon, 29. Jun 20, 11:38
The feeling I have is Trump isn't just a "political racist", meaning he's not going the racist way to please his voters. He is genuinely a white suprematist.
I mean with him sharing a video of his supporters yelling White Power I feel like he finally is starting to be a bit more open about it. Even if he ended up deleting it afterwards. Here is the video.BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 11:38The feeling I have is Trump isn't just a "political racist", meaning he's not going the racist way to please his voters. He is genuinely a white suprematist.
I disagree, he personally thinks he is better smarter more reliable etc, than everyone, i don't think he really cares about skin colour as long as you worship him as the god he thinks himself to be, this does however make it very easy for him to hitch a ride on the racist feelings of his base though, given his psychotic lack of empathy and utterly lacking moral compass.BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 11:38The feeling I have is Trump isn't just a "political racist", meaning he's not going the racist way to please his voters. He is genuinely a white suprematist.
If what you say is true, that in of itself is pretty stupid as the amount of white nationalists in this country are vastly outnumbered. That's not to say there's not a lot, but not enough to control the vote in his favor. He could have won more people over to worship him if he opposed racism, instead.Grim Lock wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 12:15I disagree, he personally thinks he is better smarter more reliable etc, than everyone, i don't think he really cares about skin colour as long as you worship him as the god he thinks himself to be, this does however make it very easy for him to hitch a ride on the racist feelings of his base though, given his psychotic lack of empathy and utterly lacking moral compass.BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 11:38The feeling I have is Trump isn't just a "political racist", meaning he's not going the racist way to please his voters. He is genuinely a white suprematist.
I agree with you, even if his cult of personality is much easier to transmit to white supremacists than to normal people. If I weren't a pure racist but I wanted, no matter the consequences, get political power, I'd go for the easy way: pleasing suprematists, because they don't need any explanation if I say "black people is bad".Vertigo 7 wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 12:45If what you say is true, that in of itself is pretty stupid as the amount of white nationalists in this country are vastly outnumbered. That's not to say there's not a lot, but not enough to control the vote in his favor. He could have won more people over to worship him if he opposed racism, instead.Grim Lock wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 12:15I disagree, he personally thinks he is better smarter more reliable etc, than everyone, i don't think he really cares about skin colour as long as you worship him as the god he thinks himself to be, this does however make it very easy for him to hitch a ride on the racist feelings of his base though, given his psychotic lack of empathy and utterly lacking moral compass.BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Mon, 29. Jun 20, 11:38The feeling I have is Trump isn't just a "political racist", meaning he's not going the racist way to please his voters. He is genuinely a white suprematist.
In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.
It is no wonder that our adversaries want Trump.The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders.
So I wasn't the only one thinking Trump was harming the US with his school bully behaviour in foreign politics...Observe wrote: ↑Tue, 30. Jun 20, 03:49Nothing particularly new here, but I'll post it anyway. Such conduct by this President has become normal since he took the helm. Trump's phone calls alarm US officials.
In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.It is no wonder that our adversaries want Trump.The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders.
Oh, god no. His foreign policy has been an absolute disaster on EVERY front. It's a wonder the US is still a member of the G7, tbh.BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Tue, 30. Jun 20, 08:39So I wasn't the only one thinking Trump was harming the US with his school bully behaviour in foreign politics...Observe wrote: ↑Tue, 30. Jun 20, 03:49Nothing particularly new here, but I'll post it anyway. Such conduct by this President has become normal since he took the helm. Trump's phone calls alarm US officials.
In hundreds of highly classified phone calls with foreign heads of state, President Donald Trump was so consistently unprepared for discussion of serious issues, so often outplayed in his conversations with powerful leaders like Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Recep Erdogan, and so abusive to leaders of America's principal allies, that the calls helped convince some senior US officials -- including his former secretaries of state and defense, two national security advisers and his longest-serving chief of staff -- that the President himself posed a danger to the national security of the United States, according to White House and intelligence officials intimately familiar with the contents of the conversations.It is no wonder that our adversaries want Trump.The calls caused former top Trump deputies -- including national security advisers H.R. McMaster and John Bolton, Defense Secretary James Mattis, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, and White House chief of staff John Kelly, as well as intelligence officials -- to conclude that the President was often "delusional," as two sources put it, in his dealings with foreign leaders.
Good grief! There is no distortion when the rallies are broadcast live. I've heard the words direct from his mouth, and unfortunately a lot of the time (most really) his brain doesn't seem to be engaged. The way Trump presents himself is beneath the dignity of the office he holds. Never have I witnessed a world leader (so-called in his case) behave in such a juvenile manner. And as for his business acumen... what acumen? The court facts on his many, many bankruptcies (including a casino ferchrissakes), are beyond dispute.Masterbagger wrote: ↑Sat, 27. Jun 20, 05:10It really can't when so much of our media is on a hair trigger to distort the man's words. He needs to engage people live and get his message out. Every rally he does there is going to be people who were taught or pressured to hate him and needed to see him in person without a filter to make up their own minds. This is important. Our American symbolism is under attack by haters. Our sense of security in our government is shaken by the permissive attitude towards rioters, looters, and those who desecrate our past. Our country is wracked by intolerance of social media mobs destroying individuals who speak out. We need him out front and center more than ever. We need Pence running things and Trump doing rallies every day until November.
Because traditional patriotism is a flawed concept that heavily relies upon xenophobia. The entire idea is that your country/your people are better than others. The question is only who these others are and who belongs to your group of patriots. For you the others are "egocentric remorseless (white) bankers", for other people they are "black or latin american(s)". I think one of the most clear example of this us vs them mentality are probably the so called "Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamisation of the Occident".BrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Tue, 30. Jun 20, 13:36How can someone calling himself "patriot" consider a person like Trump a good leader for his country? Besides foreign relations, he's hurting internal unity in a way which has no record.
How a patriot could ever consider black or latin american "inferior", considering how long they lived and worked in and for the US? By my view, a true patriot would consider them more american than (for instance) a lot of egocentric remorseless (white) bankers who destroyed economy in the recent past.
I know that, patriotism needs to evolve because globalization (good or bad, there's both in it) isn't going to vanish anytime.clakclak wrote:...
Education is lacking on the matter. Someone should explain to newer generations where a certain kind of "patriotism" brought nations / countries to. I would have loved to hear somebody explain that to me at school, but it's a bit late now...Alan Phipps wrote:...
The problem is really that some people see and use patriotism as a means to fulfill their selfish desires. It's some kind of distorted view that their country exists to serve their wants and needs alone and any deviation from that is somehow "unpatriotic". Everything used by them to define themselves as a patriot is centered around one thing - me me me me me me me me me I I I I I I I I I I I IBrasatoAlBarolo wrote: ↑Tue, 30. Jun 20, 15:27I know that, patriotism needs to evolve because globalization (good or bad, there's both in it) isn't going to vanish anytime.clakclak wrote:...
I didn't know the definition of constitutional patriotism, but I see I'm inclined toward it as well. I'm proud to be Italian while strongly opposing exagerated nationalism I read about and listened too in my life.
Education is lacking on the matter. Someone should explain to newer generations where a certain kind of "patriotism" brought nations / countries to. I would have loved to hear somebody explain that to me at school, but it's a bit late now...Alan Phipps wrote:...
I think you got that part wrong it should either be: