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Post by felter » Mon, 16. Apr 18, 23:50

So Cohen is in court and admits to having 3 Clients in the past year. First of course is the master criminal (lol) Donald Trump. The second was a Republican fund raiser who admitted to paying a playboy bunny off he had got pregnant, to shut her up. And the third he refused to name, as the client wouldn't give him permission to be named but the judge eventually forced Cohen's lawyer to name them, turns out it was Hanity off of fox news. Here's the fun part, as soon as Hanity heard he was the third client he was denying it, saying he had talked to Cohen but had never used him as a lawyer. So either Hanity is telling lies which he never does (lol) or Cohen and his lawyers just committed perjury.
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Post by Rapier » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 00:21

Hannity first said he'd never retained Cohen as a lawyer or had him represent him - implication is he's not a client but in reality he still could be. Later he said he'd asked him legal questions and had asked for that to be attorney-client privilege (and suggested he may have given him 'ten bucks' to make that official). My understanding is, though it varies from state to state, you can be a 'client' of a lawyer if you ask for advice and they give it - no money has to change hands and nothing more need come of the conversation. The conversation (and any records of it) would be subject to A-C privilege*. Mostly what I've seen from the US legal twitter feed I follow is what I was thinking anyway - Hannity should just shut-up and get a lawyer! He does appear to be making things worse (legally) for himself and mostly the legal teams arguing for Cohen and Trump.

Also: Not just Hannity off of Fox News, but Hannity who went on a massive rant about the raid on Cohen's office etc. Legally, there's not much here, but in relation to journalistic integrity of Hannity and Fox News ... it's probably a good thing they didn't have much to start with!


* Except of course where you're commissioning a crime, which is how we got here in the first place.

Edit: corrected spellings of 'Hannity'.
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Post by felter » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 01:19

It's funny that as soon as you type or say anything, by the time you have finished the story has changed. It's not the never ending story, it''s the forever changing story.
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Post by RegisterMe » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 02:12

Hanity might be caught up in this? Oh that's just.... even more amusing :).

EDIT: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43791164

Cohen sure has a lot of money to throw around off his own back for somebody who only represents 2(/3) clients, one of whom denies he's a client, and one of whom denies he had anything to do with a payment.

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Post by felter » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 02:55

I don't blame Hanity not wanting to be recognised as he is a married man and all I have heard that Cohen does, is pay women off to keep them quiet about illicit affairs or unwanted pregnancies.
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Post by Hank001 » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 05:04

Hannity (two n's) has a problem, but FOX has a bigger one. He's suppose to be a "journalist" he reports "news". What he didn't do was inform his viewers he had a connection with Cohan. Even when he was calling the investigation and the raid a witch hunt. It was a big shock and those "gasps" in the courtroom came from the media. In fact you can pretty much bet THAT was the reason he didn't want want his name brought into this. Now he can pretty much kiss his career goodbye. Not that I ever saw him on Fox, but his radio I have and I'm sure that's long for the airwaves after this is over.
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Post by felter » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 05:10

So how did the Fox cover the story, it sort of went:

So the lawyer stood up and said the 3rd client was Shean Hannity. So now moving onto another story.

That was it. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Post by Hank001 » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 05:21

On Fox? Sorry I'm sans cable TV at the moment but it probably goes...

(Ahem... Announcer voice) "And in court today the vile forces f the deep state forced Cohen to reveal the name of a client! Which turned out to be none other than our own Sean Hannity! Breaking ever rule of attorney-client privilage the forces of darkness once again toss the constitution under the bus..."

And within a few days report he's been let go for something palatable to their viewers like a sexual harassment charge. :D
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Post by Rapier » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 09:09

Aside:
Hank001 wrote:Hannity (two n's)
Yup. It felt wrong as I was typing it, so I checked and for some reason didn't change it. I guess I just couldn't believe anything I was reading!
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Post by Rapier » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 09:23

I guess most people finding their way here will be up to speed on what's gone on these past few months, but if not, here's a primer and explainer of the mess Cohen's in: https://www.popehat.com/2018/04/16/laws ... itigation/
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Post by BugMeister » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 11:14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp8EHXysiTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haHT-tz92Lo

..panto season has been extended :lol:


- meanwhile, back at the ranch - the UK has it's own voter manipulation enquiry:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... referendum

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Post by Bishop149 » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 11:55

Hank001 wrote:On Fox? Sorry I'm sans cable TV at the moment but it probably goes...

(Ahem... Announcer voice) "And in court today the vile forces f the deep state forced Cohen to reveal the name of a client! Which turned out to be none other than our own Sean Hannity! Breaking ever rule of attorney-client privilage the forces of darkness once again toss the constitution under the bus..."
You're almost right. . . . the live reveal on Fox basically went.

And we're all very keen to find out who this 3rd person is, WHY is it being kept SECRET from YOU the public that need to know, it must be some kind of cover-up, probably a democrat, more evidence of the corruption rife within the FBI etc. . . . . and it's. . . . . . one of us. . . . . "ok, moving on"

Paraphrased apart from the bit is quotes, which were genuinely the words that followed their stating of the name.
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Post by Hank001 » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 14:50

I'd magine there are more than a few red faces at FOX. They were already getting flak about "journalistic integrity". They had the Bill O'Rielly sex harrassment affair and reportage deliberately dancing around Trump's falsehoods. Hannity's rants I get were one of their higher rated shows after they booted Bill. Fox according to CBS news is calling Hannity an "infotainer" not a jounalist.

:? Okay....

UPDATE: Just got pinged by Amazon. Comey's book is ready for upload. (Despite news Today was the release date. I preordered.)
So I'll be reading my kindle today and take a break.)
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Post by RegisterMe » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 15:34

Nice link, thanks Rapier.
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Post by Morkonan » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 21:22

Rapier wrote:Hannity first said he'd never retained Cohen as a lawyer or had him represent him ...
Cohen has three clients... Trump, who's need for a lawyer can not be questioned, that "fund raiser" for the campaign/party, who really, really, "wtf I need a lawyer right now"'d needed a lawyer and, now, we discover Hannity needed a lawyer and we're supposed to believe that just "out of the blue" Hannity picked the least-used-by-anyone attorney on the block just by throwing a dart at a phone book and ending up with Cohen?

And, we're supposed to believe that this attorney, who seems to specialize in the very esoteric legal practice of "not having any actual clients" just happened to be selected by Hannity so he could just ask him about what maintains are a few simple, mundane, questions about... real-estate?

Yeah, right "real estate," I get it...

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Post by Hank001 » Tue, 17. Apr 18, 21:41

Cute! Needed a break from wading through Comey's Mia Culpa. :roll:
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Post by BugMeister » Wed, 18. Apr 18, 20:10

- To catch a Trump, you need to increase the heat slowly..
- like the frog in the experiment - he will be boiled alive before he realizes what's going on..
- watching him stew is both fascinating and macabre..
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Post by Hank001 » Thu, 19. Apr 18, 01:33

After muddling through Comey's book last night I woke up this morning before the alarm! Thanks Comey! Your sophistry is a dead sure cure for insolmnia! By the way James, integrity and ethics aren't exactly the same thing. :P
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Post by RegisterMe » Thu, 19. Apr 18, 01:35

Hank001 wrote:After muddling through Comey's book last night I woke up this morning before the alarm! Thanks Comey! Your sophistry is a dead sure cure for insolmnia! By the way James, integrity and ethics aren't exactly the same thing. :P
Interesting. I'm not going to read it, but what did you make of it all?
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Post by felter » Thu, 19. Apr 18, 01:40

Must have been good if you have finished it already, or had nothing else better to do.
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