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I was going to mention the failed "Earth 2." But, I didn't think anyone would remember that series.Hank001 wrote:@ Morkonan
Add "Andromeda" and "Earth: The Final Conflict"
and even the first episode of the original "Star Trek"
And you'll see that was one of the Great Bird of Galaxy's
favored plot devices.
Morkonan wrote: ↑Wed, 26. Sep 18, 20:04It was only the pilot and wasn't it called -Genesis II. As far I can remember it was a "many worlds" scenario, where the heroes would travel the earth via a underground railway system.Hank001 wrote:
I was going to mention the failed "Earth 2." But, I didn't think anyone would remember that series.
Who isn't waiting for the next season of The Expanse?while waiting for The Expanse and The Good Place.
Hadn't noticed this so gave it a whirl, quite good similar in theme to the original prisoner and the Truman show.
I hadn't heard of that show, so I looked it up. (For others similarly interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Place ) ??!?!!!!?? I was like... WTF? This premise is so off-the-wall that I gotta see an episode or two.Redvers Ganderpoke wrote: ↑Mon, 1. Oct 18, 12:46Hadn't noticed this so gave it a whirl, quite good similar in theme to the original prisoner and the Truman show.
Tks for the recommendation.Humans in LiS are too weak to make this work; I'd want to make them bystanders of a huge sh*tshow which they triggered, like being Serbia during World War I.
They were most often victims of their own stupidity. Why don't they post a watch? Why don't they solve their command paralysis problem when episode after episode it is proven again and again to be extremely and unnecessarily dangerous? Why aren't there standing orders to at least retreat at flank speed while they're going through their checklist of things they have to do before they're allowed to defend themselves? Why don't they start on that checklist BEFORE enemy ships begin shooting?Voyager encountered many things that were "bigger than they are" and was put in the position of being the "weaker opponent that finally wins the day, for now" many times.
I found them so dimwitted I was wishing they would die to serve as an object lesson in Darwin's unforgiving nature. Why haven't they already tried to communicate BEFORE the enemy ship starts shooting at them? Why failure after failure do they continue to fail in exactly the same ways? Why don't they post a watch?Look how we outwitted certain doom!
The original BSG was terrible, but you need to see it as an adult to fully apprehend its awfulness. Humanity has almost been wiped out, but nobody seems to act like it. Society clicks along as if they were all on the Love Boat with a military escort whose top ace pilots go on adventures. Also there seem to be a lot of humans with their own civilizations and their own set of troubles who've never heard of Cylons. Do Cylons really want to exterminate humanity or just the Capricans?Battlestar Galactica too the same sort of line, too. The first series a bit better than the second ...
My mom was kind of nerdy, so even though I consider the new Lost in Space to be rather purposefully directed at an audience of married women I found its family-centered narrative compelling. "This is what a healthy family should look like," is the part I liked, especially since the family is very nerdy and the values espoused nerdy as well: resourcefulness and hard work are good; deceptiveness and laziness are bad. It's a quasi-religious family values live-action Chick Tract for nerds. It's so unique I can't help but like it.I haven't seen the new show, so I'll see what I can do about correcting that.
Why can't the nerd-loser who can't get laid get laid once he becomes famous? Fame comes and goes yet nothing changes. How stupid do the writers think we are? Nothing turns a nerdy loser into "Julian Assange: ladies' man" faster than fame. Then you learn that being a famous ladies' man isn't really all that fulfilling and you grow as a character. This is called "character development" and is the bane of mediocre writers too lazy to change their archetypes.... Andromeda ...
Season 3 required a lot of people who we would expect to be competent to carry the Idiot Ball to actually create suspense. You've triggered an alien defense mechanism so technologically advanced no one even understands how it works. What do you do? "Let's shoot our way out!" Nobody's that stupid and survives the harshness of space long enough to command a fleet of space ships.The Expanse
There are a couple of bits where the physics as shown don't work. The one that stuck out to me was when the mirrors above Ganymede were destroyed. The wreckage immediately started falling straight down onto the farms below--which is obvious nonsense, because those mirrors are in orbit, so their wreckage will be as well.
"Frankenstein," the drama of the mistaken assumption and the danger of unintended consequences. "I'm serious, it'll be fine. They're totally harmless. Besides, the driver knows the way..."
A darn fine rant on Voyager. Very nicely done! But, you left out Seven's boobs...They were most often victims of their own stupidity....
"Better" in that they tended to deal with other civilizations better, I suppose. Unfortunately, the explanation for the splinter groups of humans was never really solid.The original BSG was terrible, but you need to see it as an adult to fully apprehend its awfulness. Humanity has almost been wiped out, but nobody seems to act like it. Society clicks along as if they were all on the Love Boat with a military escort whose top ace pilots go on adventures. Also there seem to be a lot of humans with their own civilizations and their own set of troubles who've never heard of Cylons. Do Cylons really want to exterminate humanity or just the Capricans?
Nuclear 'splosions in space are cool. But, they need reaction mass, else no overpressure damage, no big firestorm, etc. I liked the concept of "armor" for the Battlestars. It makes them "gritty." But, by the time they got to where they were going, the radioactive glow would have announced them long before they got there... A giant flying space-people-microwave spewing out gamma rays like Satan's Christmas Tree Lights."Radiological alarm!" Nothing says, "Take this threat seriously," like the most famous words in the series. Nuclear explosions are surprisingly bad at obliterating things made of hardened alloy metals, so the nukes are realistic as long as you imagine the real damage is the time the engineers must spend decontaminating irradiated ship parts.
That wasn't a bad season, really. (Had to look at the episode list to refresh my memory.) There was a bit of a loss of focus for the season and a lot of rambling episodes. Whether it was story/character/setting building or not is probably up for grabs.Anything would be better than a Season 3 of "They Have a Plan" when there is in fact no plan.
It's refreshing to hear that there's a show that doesn't have a dysfunctional family as the centerpiece.My mom was kind of nerdy, so even though I consider the new Lost in Space to be rather purposefully directed at an audience of married women I found its family-centered narrative compelling. "This is what a healthy family should look like," is the part I liked, especially since the family is very nerdy and the values espoused nerdy as well: resourcefulness and hard work are good; deceptiveness and laziness are bad. It's a quasi-religious family values live-action Chick Tract for nerds. It's so unique I can't help but like it.
I always wonder how people can think that when confronted with a malevolent race's godlike technology that we would somehow either overcome it or master it... We eat "Tide Pods" for goodness sake! There's gotta be a Martian or Belter equivalent, somewhere in "The Expanse."Season 3 required a lot of people who we would expect to be competent to carry the Idiot Ball to actually create suspense. You've triggered an alien defense mechanism so technologically advanced no one even understands how it works. What do you do? "Let's shoot our way out!" Nobody's that stupid and survives the harshness of space long enough to command a fleet of space ships.The Expanse
Still the good outweighs the bad, the physics seem realistic -- I don't know of they are, but they seem like it -- and I appreciate the effort. The visuals are stunning. I highly recommend.
Seven was too annoying for me to care what she looked like.
Once you decide FTL is possible it actually fixes this problem.... the radioactive glow would have announced them long before they got there...
Yeah, or the "band of misfits" which worked for Firefly but is by now a worn-out trope. Lost in Space made me care enough about the surprisingly normal Robinson family I'll give Season 2 a shot.It's refreshing to hear that there's a show that doesn't have a dysfunctional family as the centerpiece.
Well I can think of one way, which makes The Expanse even more retarded:I always wonder how people can think that when confronted with a malevolent race's godlike technology that we would somehow either overcome it or master it...
Sharknado SciencePJKnibbs wrote:The one that stuck out to me was when the mirrors above Ganymede were destroyed. The wreckage immediately started falling straight down onto the farms below--which is obvious nonsense, because those mirrors are in orbit, so their wreckage will be as well.
So, I watched the clip and the first thing that struck me square in the face was that it was filled with well-known and extremely capable actors... WTF? How did I miss this series with all those great character actors in it? I'll have to check this out!BugMeister wrote: ↑Sat, 13. Oct 18, 22:40- the exceptionally stylish Mr Nero Wolfe..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UvZDRXVBUo
- most excellent work by Timothy Hutton and Maury Chaykin...
Where are all these series? SyFy?
90% of my TV watching these days is (UK) Netflix, all of these shows are on there.
