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Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Fri, 25. Jan 19, 20:25
by BugMeister
- he was an absolute gem..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tVQ6aSxr34

- the brilliant Windsor Davies.. :lol:

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Fri, 1. Feb 19, 12:56
by pjknibbs
Probably more for the Brits, the comedian Jeremy Hardy has died:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47056671

Always liked his dry humour, will miss that.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Fri, 1. Feb 19, 13:06
by BugMeister
- oh, that is just ghastly news..
- long been a hero of mine, along with Linda Smith
- old friends..
- deeply sad.. :cry: :cry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg1rCfKGMOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwnkKYO ... 8WbD_iORE6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcozo27CEE
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... er-aged-57
- a bright light has gone out.. :(

PS - in memory of dear Linda:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8N-c4gv4i0

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Fri, 1. Feb 19, 17:21
by Redvers Ganderpoke
Sad news indeed, didn't agree with his politics (most of the time), but he was very funny.

Must listen to " A Brief History of Time wasting" on the way home tonight.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 2. Feb 19, 00:29
by berth
Yeah, that sucks. He was always brilliant on the News Quiz.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 2. Feb 19, 04:52
by BugMeister
a very funny, serious man..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGi8_uu6dKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV39xfS8cJ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqspFnaoCes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WwJcSvpnOI

onstage live:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VGVv7kkNvA

Jeremy Hardy was a man of brilliant intellect - his sort are few and far between..
he will be sadly missed by a great many people - he was a man of great humanity..
unassuming, thoughtful and deeply passionate about his political beliefs..
the world is a slightly darker place with his passing, though he left us a legacy that will stand the test of time..

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 9. Feb 19, 00:55
by berth
Albert Finney, actor, has died. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47175304

I remember him from lots of things, probably most recent (not very recent) was the Coens' Miller's Crossing.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 9. Feb 19, 06:33
by pjknibbs
He did a rather...shall we say memorable, but for the wrong reasons?--Poirot in one version of "Murder on the Orient Express". Don't get me wrong, he totally looked the part, but I have no idea where his accent came from!

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sun, 10. Feb 19, 15:37
by Ronald Sandoval
I remember some years ago i had to go to his house he was dressed in a robe and very very drunk i think he liked a drink

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Mon, 11. Feb 19, 04:36
by Stars_InTheirEyes
https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/10/stargate ... dead-dies/

Carmen Argenziano. His role as Jacob Carter in the Stargate TV series is what I knew him for.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Mon, 11. Feb 19, 05:37
by burger1
Stars_InTheirEyes wrote:
Mon, 11. Feb 19, 04:36
https://www.tmz.com/2019/02/10/stargate ... dead-dies/

Carmen Argenziano. His role as Jacob Carter in the Stargate TV series is what I knew him for.
Was watching him on Stargate when I read this.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Mon, 11. Feb 19, 23:59
by Morkonan
We should put a stop to this whole "death" thing. It's terribly depressing and doesn't really appear to do much that's beneficial. I suppose it helps reduce overpopulation, but we could certainly figure out some better way that all this "dying" stuff. Make it optional, I say!

One day we will. But, only if we live long enough to do so...

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Tue, 12. Feb 19, 08:24
by pjknibbs
Them's the breaks for being a multicellar organism with non-regenerating telomeres, unfortunately. :)

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Wed, 13. Feb 19, 22:50
by Morkonan
pjknibbs wrote:
Tue, 12. Feb 19, 08:24
Them's the breaks for being a multicellar organism with non-regenerating telomeres, unfortunately. :)
You keep my telomeres out of this! They regenerate just fine... They're trying, at least! Not their fault... Being a telomere is a tough job!

/takes another swig of whiskey and puffs on his cigar while he's waiting for his fried-chicken-chocolate-bacon pie to finish in the oven...

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Thu, 14. Feb 19, 13:59
by pjknibbs
Few days late, missed this one at the time:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47214103

John Haynes, the guy who came up with the concept for the car repair manuals used by many a Brit trying to save money, has died.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Thu, 14. Feb 19, 22:07
by Morkonan
pjknibbs wrote:
Thu, 14. Feb 19, 13:59
Few days late, missed this one at the time:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47214103

John Haynes, the guy who came up with the concept for the car repair manuals used by many a Brit trying to save money, has died.
Yeah, I read about this today. I'm more familiar with "Chilton" in the U.S. But, no matter which publisher, these sorts of books were indispensable to me when I was younger. My first car was an "M.G. Midget." '69 I think? You could pick the darn thing up... Heck, my friends did that just to mess with me. (slid it around sideways in a parking spot or put it up on the lawn of a store) But, you could have put a hot-tub in the engine compartment. I remember looking at that over-hyped lawnmower engine and then trying to figure out how to fix it... "WTF IS METRIC? Is this a carbeurator? Why are there two carboreators? How do you spell carberator?"

If it wasn't for Chilton, and likely the same way Brits feel about Haynes, I would have never been able to enjoy some of the automobiles I have owned over the years.

Ya know, I guess we can consider Haynes and people like him to be some of the first really dedicated "fans" that made something accessible and "playable" by the fanbase... Kind of like the game modders, wiki writers, tutorial writers and Let's Players for their genre in their day, huh?

Godspeed, Haynes, and thanks for helping so many people.

PS - The wiki for Haynes is pretty interesting. Their workflow in creating a Haynes book must have been a wild ride, indeed!

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 16. Feb 19, 18:13
by berth
Bruno Ganz, who portrayed Hitler so memorably in Downfall, has died: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47264709

If you haven't seen it, I'd encourage you to rectify that :)

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sat, 16. Feb 19, 20:56
by Morkonan
berth wrote:
Sat, 16. Feb 19, 18:13
Bruno Ganz, who portrayed Hitler so memorably in Downfall, has died: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47264709

If you haven't seen it, I'd encourage you to rectify that :)
Logged in just to post this tribute. I think it's important: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1R4oUBj0L0

Ganz didn't understand or appreciate how his portrayal of Hitler was seized upon by the Internet. He didn't like that kind of notoriety, at least in the interview I watched. I'm no meme commander and not a connoisseur of the finest memes on the net, but there's something I don't think Ganz understood and I desperately wish he had...

I'm not a native German speaker. There's a pretty large portion of people in the world that aren't native German speakers. But, nobody needs to be able to speak German to understand Ganz's character. Nobody. "Downfall" memes aren't parodying Ganz, they're showcasing his ability to emote, to evoke, to draw emotion and empathy from an audience for a character no matter who that character is or what language that character is speaking. Most of the world can't understand what Ganz is saying in those re-subtitled memes. But, they don't need to - They can feel it.

There is nothing more powerful evident in a fine actor's performance as their ability to "evoke." Not their timing, not their makeup, not their booming classically trained stage-actor voice nor the way they sometimes seem to become anyone they wish with just a wardrobe change, practically unrecognizable and embodied in the character of the moment can be as magical as an actor who can demand empathy. A "believable" portrayal, a "fine performance"... These are nothing if the audience doesn't "feel." There is not one well regarded artist, actor, performer, musician or anyone else who purposefully creates a piece of art that can ever be regarded as successful, let alone a true Master, that does not also have the ability to "evoke." None. Without that, an artist is a hack, a perfunctory mechanism displayed to recite words or play notes or string letters together just to form words.

Every time I see a new "Downfall" meme vid, I get a bit... sad. I've often considered writing Ganz, just because I felt he didn't understand that his performance was so powerful, so meaningful, so very masterful that it immediately captivated millions of people that couldn't even speak the language he used in his performance. How so very masterful, so very talented, does an actor have to be to get to the apex of a performance in which the words don't matter? Rage, pain, betrayal, madness... Ganz didn't need ANY of these words to convey these emotions. None. The writer's were made irrelevant as a true master of the performing arts took the stage. All the "Downfall" memes, even the terrible ones, are all homages to his skill even if their creators don't quite understand why they are using clips from "Downfall" in the first place.

Godspeed, Bruno Ganz.

Bravo!

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sun, 17. Feb 19, 03:47
by berth
Well said. I wasn't aware of his reaction - hadn't occurred to me, tbh.

Meme-wise, the only one I know is to do with poor weather forecasting and travel disruption in my local area. I won't post a link as I don't believe it would be appropriate :)

I only got around to watching the movie recently and I was blown away.

EDIT: just watched your link Mork, very nice. He was in Wings of Desire too - another classic.

Re: Death announcements for persons of note

Posted: Sun, 17. Feb 19, 21:51
by Morkonan
berth wrote:
Sun, 17. Feb 19, 03:47
...I only got around to watching the movie recently and I was blown away.

EDIT: just watched your link Mork, very nice. He was in Wings of Desire too - another classic.
"Downfall" is an outstanding movie. It is wonderfully done. Hitler's portrayal is a bit overdone, but that's clearly purposeful in an artistic and practical sense - There's a limited amount of time to present his evolution as a character that is appropriate for what is historically known. But, the emotional energy that oozes out of his performance is everything that such a story needed. It's masterful and it's why I really like "Downfall." It's not the subject matter, it's his performance and the story that allows him such liberty.

The vid was very nice and it's intentionally respectful. There is an opening subtitle and then the obvious absence of them throughout the rest of the video. Respect and honor for him as an actor is clearly evident.