Mightysword wrote: ↑Tue, 9. Apr 19, 06:35
Only if you're talking about kids, sure. If an adult tricked and scam a 5 years old out his sweetroll, then sure I'll agree. But don't kid yourself here, 52% of UK voters voted to leave in the biggest turn out in history, while it may very well be "some" was misinformed, it would be outright denial to say none of them know what they were doing. We're talking about Adults in full command of their faculties, professionals that are probably more informed on the issues than all of us here among those 52%....
They were all "professionals?"
Most people pay strict attention to what is right in front of their face at any one time and a little less attention on what is in their back yard. Other than that, many will dedicate a few minutes to something, formulate an opinion, and then they're done. So, John and Jane Q. Public work 50+ hours a week, raising two kids, have a house payment, share a car, and are getting ready to send one of their kids off to school soon. At home, they spend about twenty minutes together as a family each weeknight. Once a month or so, they might all go out to see a movie or watch a show on television together. After the kids go to bed, they might have some sexy-time if they're not already asleep or it isn't laundry-night. Whenever there's an "event" like Brexit going on, they might watch the news here and there and talk about it at work. But, they tend to avoid that except with certain people who they agree with, since talking about politics at work with people who don't agree with one's point of view can lead to long-term working relationship problems. They discuss how they're going to vote, read a few articles online and discuss things with relatives and friends on Facebook. They decide their relatives are stoopid and the only friend that agrees with them is someone they haven't seen in fifteen years.
Then, they go vote and argue about it when one tells the other they voted differently.
There ya go.
Ever talked to someone about something complicate and watched as their eyes glazed over? Sure you have. It's not that their dumb or incompetent, it's just that they don't have the attention, time or willingness to sit through and listen to a bunch of complex crap that they don't need to know since they feel they already know all they need to. And, then they push the Big Red Button anyway and shut down the whole friggin' facility because they fell asleep during the safety vids...
Normal people. Decent people. People working hard, raising a family, doing "living stuffs" get distracted very easily and are very grateful when someone online takes the time to summarize everything for them in easy to understand terms like "This sucks, you should/shouldn't do it." Wonderful! Concise! Decision made, move on with life.
Observe wrote: ↑Mon, 8. Apr 19, 20:41
Morkonan wrote: ↑Mon, 8. Apr 19, 18:08
...In that respect, one could argue the citizens of the UK are blameless here for making their choice...
In broad strokes, the decision was between nationalism and globalism. Between unity and separation. Between being subservient to foreign powers in the interest of the common good vs. being able to act independently. Everyone knew this. Sure, they didn't know the devil-in-the-details, but since this hasn't been done before, no one seemed to fully understand the complications involved.
That's what the choice "became." That's what it was turned into.
And, notice how you phrase it. The "good choice" is not being "subservient." Great... If you sign a treaty with another nation are you then "subservient" or have you just entered into a mutually beneficial "agreement?" You might even give up something in order to get something you want. Is that being "subservient?" It that sort of sensationalism that colored this referendum and rendered the more complex issues little more than a byline as people sat around and screamed "Freedom" vs "Slavery."
