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Over the top safety instructions

Post by Usenko » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 11:00

A fascinating thing.

My eldest daughter is currently doing a Science assignment, in which she has to conduct a piece of original research.

(The assignment that her class is doing was written by her father, but that's neither here nor there :) ).

The assignment requires students to do a full risk assessment. Now, she's decided that she's going to test various artificial sweeteners in brownies to see which (if any) is as good as actual sugar[1]. So when she went to see her teacher about this, he suggested "Put some control strategies down, which we know you won't actually use, because you're in the kitchen!"

I suggested that she should have fun with this. Since both she and the teacher know that she's relying on common sense rather than over-thought control strategies, I proposed that the control strategies should include:

Hazard: Fire
Control strategies:
* Wear flame-retardant suit at all times.
* Have a person standing by with a fire extinguisher in hand during all points of cooking.
* Contact the fire brigade and warn them before cooking begins.


Hazard: Breathing in dust
* Wear a respirator whenever measuring out flour or cocoa.
* Surround the area with a water mist.
* Go to the doctor for a complete bronchoscopy after cooking.

Any extras she should add?

(Her teacher is one of my best friends on staff, and has a brilliant sense of humour. He'll love this, so feel free to go crazy! She could use up to 3-4 of the best ideas. :) ).

[1] She is doing a double blind taste test - she'll offer people 5 pieces of brownie, each with a label on it, and get them to rate them out of 10. She won't know what each label means.
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Post by Grim Lock » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 12:46

Wel dont' forget the flameproof blanket, an eyeshower, getting sugar or flour in the eyes is very annoying :P, so safety goggles too, first aid kit, evacuation plan and route-map, a designated work health officer and safety inspector.
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Post by Redvers Ganderpoke » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 12:54

Allergy assessment of ingredients.
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Re: Over the top safety instructions

Post by apogee » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 13:30

Usenko wrote: [1] She is doing a double blind taste test - she'll offer people 5 pieces of brownie, each with a label on it, and get them to rate them out of 10. She won't know what each label means.
Is the label edible?, will you need a trained medical person on hand in the case the brownies cause choking and the heimlich manoeuvre is required.

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Post by Alan Phipps » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 14:02

Insulin, injector, district nurse and any other necessary medical precautions on hand in case anyone due to do the blind test should suffer from diabetes and has an associated incident during or after the test.
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Post by felter » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 14:23

I was going to do the diabetes one, so to add to it you could say that all taste testers are tested for diabetes before being allowed to participate in the testing.

Buckets should also be available during testing, just in case the cookies are totally disgusting causing mass vomiting. All taste testers should be offered some free toilet roll as a precautionary measure to any future diarrhoea the cookies may cause.

Health and hygiene officials should be called in to evaluate the cleanliness of the kitchen and equipment, to make sure they are safe to use, as the food is going to be tested and consumed by the public.
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Post by jlehtone » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 14:53

Coffee, chili and other substances can affect negatively/saturate the taste buds. Therefore, the pro tasters have a rigorous and restrictive diet, several hours before tasting (i.e. most of their time).

=> Control the people 12 hours before tasting that they (a) don't quench their buds with listed foods and (b) starve (which obscures objectivity in other ways).

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Post by CBJ » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 14:58

Hazard: Stress
• Trained therapist to provide counselling
• Emotional support animal available to aid recovery (and eat any leftovers)
• Tea (with side-benefit of going nicely with brownies)

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Post by apogee » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 16:50

CBJ wrote:Hazard: Stress
• Emotional support animal available to aid recovery (and eat any leftovers)
Of course that means you now need a vet on hand in case the support animal is in some way adversely affected.

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Post by pjknibbs » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 17:12

Hazard: Pencil and paper for taking notes
- Make sure all pencils are blunt so nobody can be injured with them
- Paper must always be attached to something so it doesn't blow into someone's face and give them a nasty fright

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Re: Over the top safety instructions

Post by Morkonan » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 17:36

Usenko wrote:...Any extras she should add?......
These recommendations are atrocious! Completely irresponsible!

There is not one citation, not one referenced regulation, not one issuance of an approved testing standard and no mention at all of standardized testing materials and equipment. There are no calibration requirements included for any equipment being used, even if it is mentioned, and not one mention of the inspection and licensing requirements of a suitable testing facility, let alone the necessary training certification required by law for approved personnel working in a laboratory environment.

Outrageous! Is there no shame, here? Someone could stub their toe or catch their privates in a blender!

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"Risk Assessment Study for Investigative Testing Proposal #Usenko-A492018-A1 "Quality Assessment for Artificial Sweeteners Contained in Slurry Mixture #365 ("Brownies", see attached), Post-Processing After Materials Exposure in Approved Crucible Furnace #B4 (Benchtop Crucible Furnace located at testing facility, see attached calibration and quality testing assessment "Ref B2") for Temperature Exposure Not Exceeding 18 Minutes (Timing Interrupt Equipped with Crucible Furnace #B4), at Sustained Temperature of 176 deg C as determined by Crucible at Point-of-Contact with Slurry Mixture."

Scope of Study: This study has been undertaken to determine risks to personnel and facilities involved in Investigative Testing Proposal #Usenko-A492018-A1 "Quality Assessment for Artificial Sweeteners Contained in Slurry Mixture #365 et al, as detailed in proposal submission of 9/04/2018 to Quality Assessment, Tastiness and Budgetary Committee for Usenko Quality Foods, Ltd. The study will review all applicable processes, materials, and regulatory requirements and exposure risks in order to determine the feasibility of the proposed testing and the associated mitigation procedures and equipment for necessary compliance with Quick-E Insurance Company Policy requirements dated and in force during the testing period as well as any Federal, State, or Local regulations and applicable Usenko Quality Foods, Ltd internal standards. *See Attached UQF doc #D-812

Scope of Work Testing and Measurement Procedures and Requirements: All testing and measurement materials and procedures will comply with N.I.S.T. (National Institute of Standard and Technology) Testing Procedure "#439.251.03-C Quality Assessment of Materials of Construction for Slurry Mixtures - Edibles." *See Attached

Regulatory Compliance Section: All work, materials, and personnel involved will comply with Federal Regulations overseeing the use and operation of "Quality Assurance Laboratories in a Non-Commercial Setting" CFR 39, Section II, 219.18 through 280.04. Applicable State and Local Regulations will be adhered to as included in "Usenko Family Kitchen Manual" Issue 1, Section 5, "Making tasty stuff in the kitchen - What you need to know." *See attached

Executive Summary: The reviewer, Usenkospawnone, PhD, MD, ASE, TLC, BBC, IE, AoL, INC, has completed a review of risk exposure for Quality Assessment Proposal #Usenko-A492018-A1, conducted with the assistance of staff and facilities at Usenko Quality Foods, Ltd.

Laboratory testing environments involved in quality testing of mixed slurry ingredients post-exposure to thermal sources and during digestive processing, including mastication (Feinbaum, Streudal and Asymptote 2001), taste, biological processing of carbohydrates (Massy et all, 1974), have demonstrated situations of increased risk (Coyote, 1961) for both facilities and personnel (Hewey, Dewey, and Luey 1958). It is with this in mind that a risk assessment study has been undertaken by this reviewer.

Comparable slurry mixture studies (Mouse, et al, 1703) were reviewed to determine the risks to Usenko Quality Foods facilities and personnel. Records show that...

<page 8>

Table 3 "Personnel - Risk Mitigation - Personal Protective Equipment Requirements for Laboratory Assistants and Staff (CFR 39, 143.01-598.23)"

...

(etc... )

PS - Don't forget Lockout/Tagout procedures for all powered equipment!

PPS - My brain started time-traveling back to the days when I actually had to do stuff like this, so I had to quit, lest the PTSD take over! :)

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Post by brucewarren » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 18:42

Amateurs

In my old school we had a special wood framed glass compartment to do experiments in. It wasn't regular glass either, but could withstand a minor explosion. This was chemistry after all :P

On second thoughts doing the experiments by hand is so last millennium. Get yourself a remote controlled robot to do the actual experiment while you watch the results from a safe location on a remote monitor.

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Post by Ezarkal » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 19:17

Hazard: Use of a mixer:
-Tie up your hairs, if your hairs are longer than shoulder length.

I'm serious about that one. I've seen stuff with long haired stuck in the mixer in the kitchen, and in the mechanical stirrer in the lab. Hilarious as it is, it is something you want to avoid.

And for the purpose of the thread, wear safety glasses.
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Post by Morkonan » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 19:45

Ezarkal wrote:Hazard: Use of a mixer:
-Tie up your hairs, if your hairs are longer than shoulder length.
NO LONG SLEEVES ALLOWED! :)
..and in the mechanical stirrer in the lab...
How about that one unbalanced magnetic stirrer you got on sale?

<tinkety tink tank tink tankitty tink tank tink> @$%@$ Stop with the darn "tinkitty tank tink" already! <tinkety tink tank tink tinkitty> ARRGH!
And for the purpose of the thread, wear safety glasses.
Splash-proof only, please. Full face shield?

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Post by Terre » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 20:04

Illuminated markers embedded in the floor of the kitchen, in case of smoke, the testers could drop to the floor and still find a safe route from the building.
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Post by Morkonan » Tue, 4. Sep 18, 20:19

Terre wrote:Illuminated markers embedded in the floor of the kitchen, in case of smoke, the testers could drop to the floor and still find a safe route from the building.
All stair steps leading away from the facility must have reflective marking tape on their edges... We had glow-in-the-dark reflective non-skid epoxy paint. Every square foot had emergency lighting, too, and woe-unto-us if a fire-inspector (Always wonder why those guys were called that, since they didn't actually inspect any fires while they were there.) found a bad battery in one of them.

There must be exposion-proof motors in everything and fume hoods over anything that isn't immediately identifiable as a rock, a unleaded pencil, or a piece of paper.

So, we need correct signage and safety-route indicators, emergency lighting, fume hoods, explosion-proof motors, and...

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Post by esd » Wed, 5. Sep 18, 15:00

Hazard: Theivery of brownies.
Action: Trained, armed, security must be on standby at all times. Separate risk assessment for the presence of firearms attached.
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Post by matthewfarmery » Wed, 5. Sep 18, 15:22

I have one,

test if the all chair backs are upright and not at an angle over 5 degrees, to avoid anyone from falling back on the chair. You could also test if the backs are firm or not.

another could be, all chairs must have 4 legs, anything less is a safety hazard.
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Post by Aye Capn » Wed, 5. Sep 18, 16:23

Antiparasite injections in case of exposure (tapeworm, etc).
Lapel dosimiter for cumulative radiation exposure.
Morkonan's fume hoods and Felter's vomit buckets for toxic inhalation and ingestion incidents.

Just how bad a cook IS she? Better play it safe and use my rules for cooking. Ho, punchline!

The therapy puppy idea was hilarious btw.

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Post by Ezarkal » Thu, 6. Sep 18, 04:56

Morkonan wrote:
..and in the mechanical stirrer in the lab...
How about that one unbalanced magnetic stirrer you got on sale?

<tinkety tink tank tink tankitty tink tank tink> @$%@$ Stop with the darn "tinkitty tank tink" already! <tinkety tink tank tink tinkitty> ARRGH!
Hey, that stirrer is important. It allows me to mix my powdered fruit punch for lunch. :D

Besides, if you ever worked in a lab, you will know there's always something somewhere making more noise than it should... Stirrer, high-vac pump, mass spectrometer, rotavap, colleague singing... Always something. :roll:


EDIT: On that note, the use of security ear plugs to dampen strong (or debilitating noises) should be strongly recommended.
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