[EMP]Extended Mod Pack (2.7 compatible) [Not needed for latest Plugin Manager]

Vivicector · Post by **Vivicector** » Thu, 10. Jun 10, 08:30

Thank's.

P.S. Looks like I'm the only one who actually read it or cares about it

DIGSIN · Post by **DIGSIN** » Thu, 10. Jun 10, 20:52

Slight update, i forgot to put in the setup scripts

Not much of a problem if you dont care about having the new wares tagged with the ZA/ZB names though

Monk · Post by **Monk** » Sun, 13. Jun 10, 10:24

Ok, tried to read this thread and figure out if I can fix my own issue, but after reading and tinkering I'm still confused and stuck with the wares changing to ZA_whatever issue.

Basically I have the Advanced Jumpdrive script which when I start my game shows the wares properly in the Argon stations, but then after undocking they seem to change to the ZA_ stuff. Is there no reliable fix for this or am I just not getting what is being explained in here?

I have a boatload of other scripts installed and everything except this one thing appears to be working properly. Sure, it's a minor issue...but man, it bugs me every time I see it. =)

LV · Post by LV » Sun, 13. Jun 10, 11:25

do you have the plugin manager installed?

that has emp built in and willl need to be updated to 2.7 and i'm hoping the game calling the wares twice (once with PM once with the dat/cat file) is the problem

if not i'll build a global signal docked script into it and see if reloading the emp text everytime playership docks could fix

need cycrow to update the plugman first though

Monk · Post by **Monk** » Sun, 13. Jun 10, 11:56

I have the plugin manager lite v 1.10 installed. I at one point had emp 1.4 fake patch in that too, and apparently uninstalling that was a big no no. Ah well, who cares about weeks of gameplay lost in an instant...haha.

Ok, so I should wait on the update for the plugin manager then?

Post by **Cycrow** » Wed, 23. Jun 10, 13:53

the emp with the plugin manager doesn't need to be updated for each new game patch.

as it simply adds the emp extra bits onto the latest twares file from what ever patch you have installed.

so it should continue to work even after updating the game.

however, the fix that LV pointed out earlier about the text will be in the next release of the plugin manager

virgil64 · Post by **virgil64** » Tue, 6. Jul 10, 05:27

Hi there,

I am looling for an explanation and hoping some scripter can enlighten me please. I've already had to start again after installing the 2.7.1 update and am about 50 hours in and have encountered two strange wares, the first being

ZA_EMP_BLANK_WARE_CUSTOM20_2 (crate found in Seizewell)

I have many scripts running but have not installed any new ones recently. I don 't know if the "EMP" part is significant but i have never installed the EMP mod/script and to the best of my knowledge run no scripts requiring the EMP. I don't want to have to start yet again but if this signifies increasing trouble throughout the game, id rather deal with it now. Any advice on how to fix or whether to restart would be welcomed and appreciated, thank you for your time

{Whether you do have installed EMP or not, the EMP thread appears the best place to find asnwers from. Merging. jlehtone}

ancient demise · Post by **ancient demise** » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 16:51

I hate to be redundant in repeating what others have said, but I believe I have a slightly different problem

After installing EMP, I have a *large* list of missing ware names. Of this list, there are a few distinct series, as listed here:
SS_WARE_SW_NEW*
SS_WARE_SW_X3TC_*
ZA_EMP_10***_WARE_CUSTOM_1_*******cr
ZA_EMP_BLANK_WARE_CUSTOM*.....
ZB_EMP_6****_WARE_**_**
ZZ_EMP_MOD_USE_ONLY**_**

where * represents one or more numbers

This problem appears with emp being installed via the NEW beta version of the plugin manager as well as being installed completely manually.
The strangest part is, even when I uninstalled EMP completely, this stuff still shows up in full list of wares. (list of wares found in cycrow's cheat menu)

Any ideas?

LV · Post by LV » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 17:31

depends on which scripts you are using, the plugman has the new version so the emp mod is not needed to be installed

if they are my scripts get the emp fix in the list here [ external image ]

run it manually with r,r,enter once you have put it in your scripts folder and it will fix all imperial entries (at least it should do)

if they are someone else's you need to post in the thread to tell the author their internal emp warelist needs updating

ancient demise · Post by **ancient demise** » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 18:05

hmm so that means i need to do some massive troubleshooting, huh.
Uninstall, run, see what changed, quit, repeat.

Is there an easier way to do this?

LV · Post by LV » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 18:25

trust me on this, the people doing "massive" troubleshooting are the scripters, your need to press 2 buttons to fix mine i would not consider to be trouble

re-writing the entries and checking over 200 scripts (only to paste over half of them again with the old scripts) is what i'd consider to be troubleshooting

ancient demise · Post by **ancient demise** » Thu, 22. Jul 10, 18:55

hey, its relative to our respective skill levels

tianlongprc · Post by **tianlongprc** » Mon, 2. Aug 10, 06:39

I am having trouble installing EMP for 2.7.

I need to know if I need to extract TWareT.txt into my x3tc main directory can some one help me?

xfir01 · Post by **xfir01** » Mon, 2. Aug 10, 14:19

tianlongprc wrote:I am having trouble installing EMP for 2.7.

I need to know if I need to extract TWareT.txt into my x3tc main directory can some one help me?

First off, if you're using Cycrow's Plugin Manager you don't need to install this, it's already included and they don't really play nice together.

Probably the easiest way to deal with this, and many scripts require it to run anyway.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=265915

Q: I use many scripts that require EMP, do i need to install EMP seperatly ?
A: No, the plugin manager will generate the requires files for EMP automatically, so theres no need to use it seperatly

Q: I have some scripts installed that use wares, but they dont have the correct ware name, more like a code
A: This is a problem with EMP, make sure the standalone version is removed and let the plugin manager use its own version

As for the TWareT.txt file, it doesn't really matter as it's not used. The important things to install are the cat/dat files which need to be installed as a false patch.

Extract everything to your main Terran Conflict install directory. In there you should also see a bunch of files named 1.cat 2.cat....etc up to i think 12 on an unmodified 2.71 instalation. Whatever the highest number is, add one and rename the 2 cat and dat files to (number).cat and (number).dat

Post by **Cycrow** » Mon, 2. Aug 10, 15:25

the TwaresT.txt file is just for reference, the actual used wares file is in the cat file itself.

the seperate one is more for scripters to use so they can check the ids used for the wares

Requiemfang · Post by **Requiemfang** » Tue, 17. Aug 10, 13:32

I was in boron space and I saw this while docked for the wares that your able to buy... what script/mod uses this slot for the ware at the bottom?

I know it's a mod/script that uses the EMP, and the EMP already is installed via the plugin manager cause it automatically comes with it when it installs

[ external image ]

{Merged to the EMP thread, because the answer could/should be there. jlehtone}

diginess · Post by **diginess** » Sun, 12. Sep 10, 02:48

Well, I too am getting all kinds of those EMP related item names. Now I have no idea what items they are, and in order to keep playing the game, I have to fix it somehow. I may have to reinstall from scratch, don't know yet.
Currently have 5 of them in my cargo hold, and when I scan other ships, sometimes they show up there too.
I tried downloading LV's xml / script updates from the folder he linked to, but even after re-initing the scripts, it didn't change the ZA_EMP item names.
I also tried updating to the beta X-Plugin manager lite version, but that didn't help.
Would removing EMP resolve the issue, and if so, how is that done?

Thanks.

diginess · Post by **diginess** » Sun, 12. Sep 10, 03:00

OK, I've read so far that EMP is used to create new items for scripters, and on this thread:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 13#2606713
it looks like there's a code page which includes the exact item names that I'm seeing. The only problem is that I have no idea now which script uses those items or what they do. I tried disabling what I thought would be the relevant scripts in the plugin manager, but of course that didn't work...
Maybe if there's no way to uninstall EMP I can find the latest version and install that over the top?

diginess · Post by **diginess** » Sun, 12. Sep 10, 03:11

Last post guys, sorry.
These are the ZA item names I'm getting:

ZA_EMP_BLANK_WARE_CUSTOM10_2
ZA_EMP_10053_WARE_CUSTOM1_1_999992cr
ZA_EMP_10073_WARE_CUSTOM3_1_392cr
ZA_EMP_10073_WARE_CUSTOM4_1_1568cr
ZA_EMP_BLANK_WARE_CUSTOM4_2

Do those look familiar?

diginess · Post by **diginess** » Sun, 12. Sep 10, 03:23

For all the people using EMP and the latest version of the game having problems with the ZA_EMP blank item names showing up after installing new item scripts and the like - download the latest version of EMP:

http://www.after-domination.net/phpbb3/ ... p=274#p274

extract it to your X3TC game folder, and rename those two files (just look at the two file names that say rename, you'll know what to do).
It works for me now. Note: I have the version 2.7 of the game, they said something about this version of EMP being updated for 2.7.

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[EMP]Extended Mod Pack (2.7 compatible) [Not needed for latest Plugin Manager]

ZA_EMP_BLANK_WARE_CUSTOM20_2 - What's happening ???

What script uses this?

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