[MOD] Complex Cleaner v4.09 / Modular Complexes (TC 3.2 / AP 1.1)

[DrBullwinkle]

I have never tried to tinker with resources, but most of that kind of thing is controlled by Relative Value and non-script code ("hardcoded").

[Mosthula]

Ya, after digging around a bit it looks like you are correct. The ware you are consuming has a static consumption rate based on the size of your factory and the value of the ware itself. What I don't get is why the script takes the factories with a production of 1 and converts them to a production of 5. This is basically the reason for the issue. Your suggestion of just compacting 5x factories will most likely fix the issue but then I have to expand my production base.

[DrBullwinkle]

It makes some sense that resource requirements relate to the size of the module, rather than to the number of factories in the module. The smallest module size is 5, so it all fits.

[Mosthula]

It makes some sense that resource requirements relate to the size of the module, rather than to the number of factories in the module. The smallest module size is 5, so it all fits.

For some reason this statement didn't click the first time around. Now that I have my head around the topic a little better it's all making sense now. This is simply a limitation because all factories get compressed into the single parent Module. Thanks for helping me understand the issue.

[DrBullwinkle]

Happy to help. I'm glad you got your mystery solved.

• (I would call it the "design" of the script... I don't really see it as a "limitation".
  
  In any case, for most complexes, most players probably would never notice such a small difference in resource requirements. It would get lost in the "noise" of the overall requirements of the complex..)

[kaluce]

Is this compatible with X3:AP 3.1?

[Kodiaz]

I keep losing ecell factories after i crunch if i have the files in as a fake patch and the game version updated woud that do me in?

[Coinkidoink]

How do you crunch in a second complex in a sector? I'm trying to flag the first complex with the ignore tag, and that seemingly happens as it should, but when i crunch in the beginnings of the second complex the factories always end up inside the first one regardless of where i actually try to position it.

[DrBullwinkle]

There is only one module container per sector. Why would you want more?

[Coinkidoink]

There is only one module container per sector. Why would you want more?

Ah okay. I would want more because it looks nice and it's easier to get a overview over my various productions.

[TehXeon]

I recently installed complex cleaner and have noticed a serious bug- whenever I get a factory in my complex to (200) the production drops to 1x...

I've googled left and right and couldn't find anything about it but I'd assume it's just an issue for me otherwise there would be people complaining? I am pretty sure I installed it right, copying the t and scripts folder over and doing the rename stuff for XRM compatibility (loading CC first).

The 1x isn't just cosmetic either, the output is that of a 1x factory- which is totally lame for building a massive complex :\ hopefully it's something I just overlooked.

EDIT:

Okay after looking at it for a bit I've noticed that all the factories are messes up as far as production goes... (i think)

a (1) gives me 2x production
(2) gives 5x
(5) gives 10x
(10) gives 20x
(20) gives 40x
(40) gives 50x
(50) gives 100x
(100) gives 150x
(150) gives 200x
and (200) gives me 1x

annoying

EDIT 2:

annnnnndddddd its a savegame issue. oh well, at least the issue will be fixed <3

[AramDol]

So I've tried extracting the zip into my X3TC directory. When I fire up X3AP, I select "Complex_Cleaner_AP" in the mod menu. Game launches fine. I've equipped a Tractor Beam on my Boron Orca. Saved my game, loaded the game again, and no dice.

From watching this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QltZn9FHryE - there should be a 5th option in the Command Console for my Orca, just below "4. Special" titled "5. Custom". It's not there.

So I tried renaming the ./mods/Complex_Cleaner_AP.(dat|cat) files to ./14.(dat|cat) (13 is the highest one present), load, save, load again. No change.

I'm a little bit worried here. I've built what I call an Omni-Complex, it's a complex that produces *everything*. Well, mostly. So far it has one of all of the Commonwealth factories, however things started going south when I started adding Terran factories to this complex. So far it has two Terran MRE factories, and the two protien paste factories to support them. It totals 147 stations so far. It's in Tk's Deprivation, right next to the western jump gate.

If I use my jumpdrive in this system, the game instantly crashes. If I attempt to add more factories, same thing. I can select where I place the station, but the moment I press enter, and the usual spinning camera animation would play, it crashes. If I sit still doing nothing... well... here's a screenshot of a freshly loaded saved game...

http://i.imgur.com/Lz15dXQ.png

And here's me 10 seconds later after rotating my ship about 3 degrees.

http://i.imgur.com/pbbe5Rz.png

<Oversized images replaced with links. Alan Phipps>

If I leave Tk's Deprivation, the game runs perfectly stable. Mind you, Complex Cleaner will still not load.

I'm running X3AP 3.1, from Steam, on Linux (Debian Testing), native (no wine). No mods at all, except for CC, and the official signed bonus pack.

Any ideas?

[DrBullwinkle]

Don't install into your mods folder.

Easiest way is to use the Plugin Manager. If you want to install manually, then look up Fake Patches.

[jacorem]

Ok, I'm trying this mod (I plan to make a complex for making all my military stuff), so I destroy my previous complex (don't worry: I have saved just before), but when I crunch all the stuff, some factory go into some containers, others don't, expecialy chelt aquarium, rastar rafinery and others (most was in the previous complex). Why? How can I fix this?

Thanks anyone


EDIT: solution find
Whyle still in the complex form, I stopped the production (via the command console-CAG administration) of some factory. Seems that this mod don't like such a thing; if this happen also to you, try to resume the production (station=>command console=>resume production)

[Scoup]

So I've tried extracting the zip into my X3TC directory. When I fire up X3AP, I select "Complex_Cleaner_AP" in the mod menu. Game launches fine. I've equipped a Tractor Beam on my Boron Orca. Saved my game, loaded the game again, and no dice.

From watching this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QltZn9FHryE - there should be a 5th option in the Command Console for my Orca, just below "4. Special" titled "5. Custom". It's not there.

So I tried renaming the ./mods/Complex_Cleaner_AP.(dat|cat) files to ./14.(dat|cat) (13 is the highest one present), load, save, load again. No change.

I'm a little bit worried here. I've built what I call an Omni-Complex, it's a complex that produces *everything*. Well, mostly. So far it has one of all of the Commonwealth factories, however things started going south when I started adding Terran factories to this complex. So far it has two Terran MRE factories, and the two protien paste factories to support them. It totals 147 stations so far. It's in Tk's Deprivation, right next to the western jump gate.

If I use my jumpdrive in this system, the game instantly crashes. If I attempt to add more factories, same thing. I can select where I place the station, but the moment I press enter, and the usual spinning camera animation would play, it crashes. If I sit still doing nothing... well... here's a screenshot of a freshly loaded saved game...

http://i.imgur.com/Lz15dXQ.png

And here's me 10 seconds later after rotating my ship about 3 degrees.

http://i.imgur.com/pbbe5Rz.png

<Oversized images replaced with links. Alan Phipps>

If I leave Tk's Deprivation, the game runs perfectly stable. Mind you, Complex Cleaner will still not load.

I'm running X3AP 3.1, from Steam, on Linux (Debian Testing), native (no wine). No mods at all, except for CC, and the official signed bonus pack.

Any ideas?

Same problem here. But I'm playing on Ubuntu 14.04 instead Debian.

I tried the Fake Patches too but no luck.

[pudderf]

This is most likely a really stupid question... but before I "Crunch" do all my factories need to be connected?

[X2-Illuminatus]

A quote from the first post:

Commands

• crunch : All unconnected factories and mines in the sector are combined into as few as possible factory modules.
  
  ...
  
  You still need to connect the "crunched" Factory Modules. manually. However, it's a whole lot faster to connect 4 Factory Modules instead of 45 single factories. =)

[pudderf]

Thanks!

Now I just feel even more stupid...

[OneFourTwo]

Situation: Most factories in X work in a nice tiered ratio. SPP/Crystal Fabs/Mines do not.

I wish to remove the silicon wafer dependence of SPP (remove crystals) OR Crystal Fabs. (remove wafer)

Using complex cleaner I have so far been unable to do this.

What I usually do is dump stations, crunch and connect to a complex. When I have enough money to add more stations I then blow up the complex hub, dump the station then crunch. This gives a compact list of "Terran MRE (100)" instead of Terran MRE (40), Terran MRE (20), Terran MRE(40)" in the order I added them.


Problem when doing this with crystal free SPP is the SPP will get reset to almost no output. I know why:

"3. Connect the SPP to the complex with a complex construction kit....The third step is absolutely necessary, or the next time the crunch command is run from CC your SPP will get reset to almost no output. But if it is already part of a complex it gets ignored. "

However I'm looking for a workaround.

The factory resource remover mod works fine on crystal fabs however complex cleaner doesn't recognise resource free crystal fabs as the same factories, therefore I end up again with multiple "Crytal Fab (5) listings."

Any ideas?

[DrBullwinkle]

I wish to remove the silicon wafer dependence of SPP (remove crystals)

It has been a long time since I have done this but, if I recall correctly, crystal-free SPP's generate less power than regular SPP's. That's OK; I just add more SPP's to compensate (maybe). I figure that the extra cost in credits is fair.

An easy way to experiment is to use the Cheat Package to remove resources from your factories. (Of course, you will have to remember to remove the resources before crunching.)