[AP][MISSIONS]Mission briefing fix for stock missions, vanilla-friendly

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 3. May 12, 05:25

DrBullwinkle wrote: True. However, until you came along, all vanilla-friendly mods made no change to the gameplay.

The most game changing mod for me was the enhanced hub, that one changes the way you build your economy drastically. Also, vanilla. This one is just a convenience to avoid reloads. Personally, I wouldn't pay for it by breaking my vanilla game. In any case, I'll see if I can find time to add that second vanilla-unfriendly version or may be a scripted patcher.

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Thu, 3. May 12, 05:50

medals

I could never play the vanilla game balance, it's just so damn slow. Hence I'll forever have a *modified* tag.

However this is actually a fix, so technically could be submitted to Ego for addition to a future patch...

palm911 · Post by **palm911** » Thu, 3. May 12, 05:57

well i think people is free to use this or not. those files are not signed for a reason

i am with kurush on this one, it does not change the way the game is played.

TrixX · Post by **TrixX** » Thu, 3. May 12, 06:55

palm911 wrote:i am with kurush on this one, it does not change the way the game is played.

It does though, it allows the ability to complete the missions instead of wandering around totally confused

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 3. May 12, 07:07

TrixX wrote: It does though, it allows the ability to complete the missions instead of wandering around totally confused

And this could be game breaking for some vanilla purists

You made a very good point before that it is essentially a fix that is better applied by Egosoft itself. They likely had some reason not to do it in the first place, probably to make the above mentioned vanilla-purists happy. Or, they just forgot because of poor communication between whoever writes MD and whoever provides the translation.
In any case, I actually like the idea of creating a separate file with changed entries only. This will help immensely to merge the changes if Egosoft ever manages to release a new patch for AP and also might work on TC.

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 4. May 12, 03:51

kurush wrote:Even if I can make it work through some scripting trickery, this will break vanilla-friendliness for sure, so two versions would be required. I'd rather write a script to extract the current version of the file and merge the changes really. Something I will probably do if another patch gets released or if somebody asks for TC support.

can we have this for TC please

wanted to have a look at this but when i try to download the vanilla-friendly version i get to the rapidshare page click on download and get an error page will try latter

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Fri, 4. May 12, 04:08

cattafett wrote: wanted to have a look at this but when i try to download the vanilla-friendly version i get to the rapidshare page click on download and get an error page will try latter

Vanilla-friendly version will not work for TC - I will need to reapply the same changes to the TC version of the file. xsp might work though. The biggest obstacle is the requirement to play-test it for almost a week until you are sure you saw briefings for all the missions that were changed. I can apply the changes but will need somebody playing TC to actually test the results.

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 4. May 12, 04:16

i'm happy to test it for you but i'm unable to download either option
any chance you could upload to somewhere other than rapidshare

DrBullwinkle · Post by **DrBullwinkle** » Fri, 4. May 12, 05:29

X3 Google Code Site (Follow the link on the Project Home page for How to Upload Scripts and Mods or use LV's public account info.)

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kurush · Post by **kurush** » Fri, 4. May 12, 05:46

I added files to my googledocs account and updated the root post with alternative links. If you are already modified, please try the spk version with TC.

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 4. May 12, 07:24

ok downloaded
as i'm not playing a moddifide game i extracted your T file from the spk
and copy/pasted the content to a t file i already added to the game that no. 0003 is auto loaded without a script needed and so keeps ypur game vanilla

so far ive had an abandon ship and a stolen ship tell me what ship i'm going to have to return
a sector patrol let me know who i would have to kill
and a defend station mission let me know what race the shady chareters were

so sofar things look ok, i will contine to play and let you know if there are any problems

while i'm here any chance you could do the same to the blow up trade convoy mission? to let us know which race the convoy belongs to
many thanks catta

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Fri, 4. May 12, 07:32

cattafett wrote:t file i already added to the game that no. 0003 is auto loaded without a script needed and so keeps ypur game vanilla

I thought about piggybacking on one of bonus pack t-files, but didn't have a chance to try. Thanks for figuring that out and testing it

Convoys were tricky, I tried them once but didn't manage to get enough of them to test. I plan to tweak my global MD file that determines mission availability so that I get those missions more frequently. May be then...

@DrBullwinkle: Now who was saying that people don't care about vanilla-friendly mods?

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Sat, 5. May 12, 21:51

cattafett wrote: while i'm here any chance you could do the same to the blow up trade convoy mission? to let us know which race the convoy belongs to
many thanks catta

I uploaded a new version that should cover destroy convoy missions. Both spk and zip links are updated.

-eni- · Post by **-eni-** » Sun, 6. May 12, 11:03

A realy nice one. Is there any chance to inlcude more details to trade/passenger missions too? An information about how much cargospace is required would be good.

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Sun, 6. May 12, 21:03

-eni- wrote:A realy nice one. Is there any chance to inlcude more details to trade/passenger missions too? An information about how much cargospace is required would be good.

One thing I am not sure is whether I can do any math in the language files, but I assume that probably not. I am also not sure whether there is a macro that gives you the # of cargo units required for one ware of this type. If there is, I can probably put it on the briefing. Otherwise, it would require a modification of the actual MD files and this is something that will be breaking with each new release. For passengers it is always 6 * # of passengers though, seems to be simple enough to calculate without modding. And for wares you can just print yourself a table of their size and then do some math practice

dillpickle · Post by **dillpickle** » Sun, 6. May 12, 21:55

kurush wrote:
-eni- wrote:A realy nice one. Is there any chance to inlcude more details to trade/passenger missions too? An information about how much cargospace is required would be good.
One thing I am not sure is whether I can do any math in the language files, but I assume that probably not. I am also not sure whether there is a macro that gives you the # of cargo units required for one ware of this type. If there is, I can probably put it on the briefing. Otherwise, it would require a modification of the actual MD files and this is something that will be breaking with each new release. For passengers it is always 6 * # of passengers though, seems to be simple enough to calculate without modding. And for wares you can just print yourself a table of their size and then do some math practice

For the Group Passenger Transport Missions (2.130 Generic Group Transport), you can use {value@L2M130.NeededSpace} for the cargo space needed - from:

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<set_value name="L2M130.NeededSpace" exact="{value@L2M130.Passenger Count}*{lookup.type.cargospace@SS_WARE_PASSENGER}"/>

Number of passengers * passenger cargo space - already in the mission code.

The Cargo Transport Missions (2.116 Cargo Transport - Entertainment Chips etc...), the total space needed isn't calculated until after the briefing is created.
However as each ware has its own individual text, you could add the cargo class - {lookup.type.cargoclass.name@SS_WARE_RWASTE} - {already in radioactive waste briefing) telling the player they need a ship to carry XL cargo. There is also {lookup.type.cargospace@SS_WARE_RWASTE}, which will give the Cargo space per unit of the specified type, as you are already told the number to collect it should be simple maths.

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Mon, 7. May 12, 18:51

dillpickle wrote: For the Group Passenger Transport Missions (2.130 Generic Group Transport), you can use {value@L2M130.NeededSpace} for the cargo space needed - from:

After you did all the hard work I guess I have no excuse not it include it

Thanks! The links are updated. I also added Escort convoy missions and it really covers all I can think of. BTW, is there any sort of reference for properties available on each object and what is available as lookup.* ?

Post by **Nanook** » Thu, 10. May 12, 22:00

kurush wrote:...or if somebody asks for TC support...

[Raises hand and asks politely].

Pretty please?

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Fri, 11. May 12, 00:20

Nanook wrote:Pretty please?

SPK version should work on both AP and TC. If you prefer to stay vanilla, I added a download link for TC prepared using cattafett's method. Please let me know if it works - I currently can't test it.

cattafett · Post by **cattafett** » Fri, 11. May 12, 00:45

just so you know the TC vanilla safe version should work in AP as well
as all the AP 0003 tfile contains is the text for the AP uplink and i had no problems with my colour freight menus when trying to upload my AP stats
may make it easier for people to merge instead of using all of 0001 tfile

also if you haven't wiped your hands of this as finished
for the return ship missions any way to tell where the ship is before you say you'll get the ship
and
Courier missions - displays the size of one ware in cargo units
this is FREAKING GENIUS

now all you have to do is back date this to X3r and X2

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[AP][MISSIONS]Mission briefing fix for stock missions, vanilla-friendly