Litcube's Universe

Freenan · Post by **Freenan** » Sat, 8. Sep 18, 10:12

and the ships should have transporter device!

jharding1222 · Post by **jharding1222** » Mon, 10. Sep 18, 13:39

Hello everyone,

I stumbled across a ship scene in LU's files today called the "Split Madhawk". I was wondering if anyone knows what this is and why it exists. Upon adding a TShips.txt entry for it and loading it into the game, it is just the Split Tempestine model, so why would LU add this file to the game? Even more intriguing is why it was given such a funny name. Was it supposed to be its own ship at one point?

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Wed, 12. Sep 18, 12:25

Good afternoon. Faced a problem. Maybe someone will help to solve this.

During the battle between M2-6-7 ships the game freezes. I tried 3.1 - 3.2 - 3.3 versions of the game, it did not help.

Other MODS are not worth it. Unfortunately, this problem is not just for me.

BlackArchon · Post by **BlackArchon** » Wed, 12. Sep 18, 18:42

alexalsp wrote:...Unfortunately, this problem is not just for me.

I can totally see that. This thread clearly overflows with messages from people that their systems are freezing on huge battles.

Do I have to put a sarcastic smiley after that?

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Wed, 12. Sep 18, 20:32

The game hangs not only in big battles. If two ships leading the battle between them, the game also hangs. Prior to that, everything is fine. ((

Sorry for my English.

Joubarbe · Post by **Joubarbe** » Wed, 12. Sep 18, 23:23

It's coming from you. What mods do you have? Did you try an Export / Import? A total reinstall on a fresh game?

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Wed, 12. Sep 18, 23:38

Joubarbe wrote:It's coming from you. What mods do you have? Did you try an Export / Import? A total reinstall on a fresh game?

New game, no mods. Mayhem did not install either.

I tried the English version of the game 3.1-3.2-3.3
I updated the driver, removed the codecs, reinstalled Windows 10, Win 7 did not help.

I tried other global mods, everything is fine. 1-2-10 ships, the war is in full swing, the game does not freeze.

dizzy · Post by **dizzy** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 00:08

Post the following information:
- game version (the bonus pack was not installed, right??? it must NOT be)
- complete list of mods/scripts installed and their versions (including LU)

Upload a save game that reproduces the problem and provide a description what to do in the game, after loading the savegame, to trigger the hanging bug. Then maybe someone can try to load your savegame on their computer and see what's happening.

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 00:16

OK. I have to start a new game. Saving is no more. I'm stupid. ((

when I get to the problem, I will upload all the data.

Sirrobert · Post by **Sirrobert** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 10:47

alexalsp wrote:OK. I have to start a new game. Saving is no more. I'm stupid. ((

when I get to the problem, I will upload all the data.

If you changed nothing about your install, just post the information now.
The bugs may be a signal for a bad install. Restarting won't fix that.

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 12:02

Sirrobert wrote:
alexalsp wrote:OK. I have to start a new game. Saving is no more. I'm stupid. ((

when I get to the problem, I will upload all the data.
If you changed nothing about your install, just post the information now.
The bugs may be a signal for a bad install. Restarting won't fix that.

OK.

Only pure game AP 3.3 English version without mods and bonus pack.

Installation:

1) Mod LU 1.7.2 - from here - http://litcube.xtimelines.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
a) Litcube's Universe V1.7.1
b) Litcube's Universe Patch V1.7.2
c) Litcube's Universe Export / Import Package V2.2.6
d) Litcube's Universe Soundtrack V1.2.1

The folder structure is preserved, as in the installation instructions.

Additional mods were not installed.

Just in case DXLog

The save file will be provided later, when I meet the battle between the M2-6-7 ships.

SirNukes · Post by **SirNukes** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 21:11

alexalsp wrote:The save file will be provided later, when I meet the battle between the M2-6-7 ships.

I took a look at one of kecin25's freezes earlier, which involved a bit of code that runs on M1/M2/M7/TL ships which start combat in a sector without player owned ships/stations and without the player being in a neighboring sector, followed by the player entering their sector. So if you are having the same problem, jumping into high combat sectors (where you didn't have any visibility before) might tease out a freeze.

As for the bit of code itself, it was an unbounded 'while' loop with a variety of exit conditions, but no handling if "move to position" returned "invalid params", and one of the parameters came from an LU specific script command. My only guess was that it could break if the LU cat/dat files were being overridden by something higher numbered with its own x3story.obj (which holds the custom script commands). That could happen if the cat/dat file for a game patch were placed at a higher index than the LU files, though I don't know how that could happen.

Joubarbe · Post by **Joubarbe** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 21:23

Could be the Phased Array Laser Cannon bug. But it tends to crash the game.

@alexalsp: is it a freeze or a real crash with a window dialog box on the background saying that the program couldn't not respond anymore?

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Thu, 13. Sep 18, 22:55

Joubarbe wrote:Could be the Phased Array Laser Cannon bug. But it tends to crash the game.

@alexalsp: is it a freeze or a real crash with a window dialog box on the background saying that the program couldn't not respond anymore?

I flew into the zone, on assignment, to kill the deserter on M ship, accompanied by 4 fighters.

I start to shoot at it, as soon as it turns around and starts to shoot at me the game freezes. Nothing else. There are no messages or error messages. The only thing that helps is Ctrl + Alt + Del.

I unfortunately did not have the save file. To get to this task, I need to raise the combat rank. But this takes time.

When I start this task, I'll give you a save file.

I remembered the task.

Kerik Selek (culprit) - Earthly, Chikew M7, Sector Destiny of the Rollk.

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Fri, 14. Sep 18, 23:12

Only clear game AP 3.3 English version without mods and bonus pack.

Installation:

1) Mod LU 1.7.2 - from here - http://litcube.xtimelines.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
a) Litcube's Universe V1.7.1
b) Litcube's Universe Patch V1.7.2
c) Litcube's Universe Export / Import Package V2.2.6
d) Litcube's Universe Soundtrack V1.2.1

The folder structure is preserved, as in the installation instructions.

Additional mods were not installed.

Just in case DXLog

Save file.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FW1mYM ... sp=sharing

Screenshots

https://imgur.com/a/ZU785U3

SirNukes · Post by **SirNukes** » Sat, 15. Sep 18, 00:27

I couldn't reproduce the freeze on my LU 1.7.2 install when trying to match your setup (E/I package, soundtrack, no gui), with no bonus pack (stated to be incompatible with LU).

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Sat, 15. Sep 18, 15:28

I said earlier that this problem exists among many people whom I spoke with on the Russian-language forum. Some players have a problem, other players do not have problems.

We tested one installation of the mod.

1) Mod LU 1.7.2 - from here - http://litcube.xtimelines.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
a) Litcube's Universe V1.7.1
b) Litcube's Universe Patch V1.7.2
c) Litcube's Universe Export / Import Package V2.2.6
d) Litcube's Universe Soundtrack V1.2.1

This is the installation sequence. No additional files were installed.

Everyone who tested had the problem of freezing the game.

So this is not an isolated case.

With other Mods, TOTT and other similar Mods, such a problem does not arise.

Therefore, I raised this topic to find or try to find a solution to this problem. If possible.

https://youtu.be/B8K7N_go6k8

Several, consecutive starts of the game.

At the end of the pirates killed M1 and there is no freezing game.

But in some cases, during a battle with ships M7-1-2-6, the freezing of the game is also present.

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Sun, 16. Sep 18, 17:51

I found the cause of the freeze.
I am guilty and sorry.

I created a complete package 3 in 1 for myself and lost sight of one fact.

The installer, during installation, deletes the folders: soundtrack and scripts and replaces it with its own.

And after copying files into the game, there were * .pck files in the scripts folder, which caused the problem of freezing the game.

My apologies again. I hope that now I can enjoy the game.

I downloaded all the save files that freezed the game, everything now works.

SirNukes · Post by **SirNukes** » Mon, 17. Sep 18, 00:45

Good to hear it is figured out. X3 uses the pck (gzipped) scripts over the xml versions when available, and I am guessing some of the LU versions changed around input/output variables or expected functionality, leading to problems. If kecin25's problem was similar, this also means my earlier fight script observations are off base since I was looking at the LU version of that script instead of the vanilla one.

You will probably want to start a fresh game to be safe. Active scripts get stored in the save, so restarting (or export/import) will be needed to fully clean out the vanilla scripts.

alexalsp · Post by **alexalsp** » Mon, 17. Sep 18, 03:13

Yes thank you.

I'll start a new game.

egosoft.com

egosoft.com

Litcube's Universe