New Scam Mails from "Amazon" be care

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New Scam Mails from "Amazon" be care

Post by korio » Mon, 22. May 17, 11:12

Hi guys,

This weekend i received a ton of mails from "Amazon" telling me some of my supposed orders have been canceled, i looked at them because i almost never buy stuff from amazon and they seem a bit legit.

Someone that uses it usually could fall on this scam mails so be care.

The sender of the mails is "order-update@amazon.com" and seems to be totally legit.

On the mail there is a link embedded to the order id that has the scam url, someone not paying much attention could fail on this so be warned.

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Post by felter » Mon, 22. May 17, 13:07

I had a few of them as well as with all emails even if you think they are legit or not, never blindly click on the link, copy and paste the link into your browser. Also run the mouse over the link and depending on the email browser you are using, a small popup should appear somewhere showing you the actual destination of the link, I use Thunderbird and it appears for me down the bottom left corner. I think I had 4 of those emails over the weekend and each one of them went to a different address, that was not amazon.
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Post by matthewfarmery » Mon, 22. May 17, 13:50

Not had any of them yet, but it might be connected to the recent cyber attacks that we had recently?

But yeah, never click on any links, and always go to the site direct to check.
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Post by Stars_InTheirEyes » Mon, 22. May 17, 18:39

My mum had one very recently saying her Amazon Prime payment had been successful. It looked very legit.

Can anyone tell me how they manage to hide the email address? Such as this scam one I've had from someone claiming to be from ebay:
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How do they do the "via" thing? If I opened the same email on a mobile device such as an iPad, I wouldn't see that 'via' part which gives it away as fake unless I tap on the address, it would just say "eBay". That's what nearly got my mum.
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Post by red assassin » Mon, 22. May 17, 19:50

Stars_InTheirEyes wrote:Can anyone tell me how they manage to hide the email address? Such as this scam one I've had from someone claiming to be from ebay:
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How do they do the "via" thing? If I opened the same email on a mobile device such as an iPad, I wouldn't see that 'via' part which gives it away as fake unless I tap on the address, it would just say "eBay". That's what nearly got my mum.
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The result of this is that, as far as the protocol is concerned, sending a message from x address to y address is as simple as rocking up to an SMTP relay and saying "I have a message from x to y", which takes it at face value and sends the message on.

Naturally, there's a lot of modifications and extensions to the protocol since then to beef up security, but unfortunately there's also a lot of legacy software around sending email which means it's very difficult to require all the security modifications.

Most major mail services will attempt to warn you or flag an email as suspicious if it doesn't pass all the security checks. The way this happens depends a lot on the service and the client you're using. In the case of your screenshot, your mail service has made some sort of determination that the various bits of source address information provided in the protocol don't entirely stack up properly and is displaying that.
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Post by UniTrader » Mon, 22. May 17, 20:35

red assassin wrote:
Stars_InTheirEyes wrote:Can anyone tell me how they manage to hide the email address? Such as this scam one I've had from someone claiming to be from ebay:
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How do they do the "via" thing? If I opened the same email on a mobile device such as an iPad, I wouldn't see that 'via' part which gives it away as fake unless I tap on the address, it would just say "eBay". That's what nearly got my mum.
Short version: SMTP is a terrible protocol.

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