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Post by Morkonan » Fri, 20. Oct 17, 21:43

mr.WHO wrote:Xenon gamestart and Xenon gameplay would be something fresh in X-Series.
It could also be dangerous, destroying the "mystery" and the sort of "brooding doom" atmosphere the Xenon bring to the setting.

The only barely seen "monster" is always scarier than the one that is fully revealed.

The "alien" in the movie "Alien" was more terrifying, more powerful, more dramatic than the "aliens" in the movie... "Aliens." In order to increase the threat, the drama and the risks, the traditional xenomorph had to be upstaged by a more powerful, more mysterious, "alien queen."

As a Xenon player, a player of a race that exemplifies the "alien menace" theme, what is "dramatic" enough to present a truly dramatic storyline or theme that would drive the atmosphere we'd expect when playing such a novel race/faction?

Que "The Borg" from Star Trek, particularly the more intimate view presented by the "Voyager" storyline. What did that finally need in order to upstage the oh-so-common-reveal of the Borg, there? "Species 8472."

I don't know that playing a Xenon character, if there could be such a thing, wouldn't ultimately do more harm than good. At the very least, in order to be a positive experience, there might have to be a "Species 8472" trope introduced. The Khaak don't qualify, either, as their theme of being "relatively harmless", in practical play pretty much holds true with the exception of very specific missions.

In fact, that may be a more interesting, less damaging, player-playable faction to explore. Perhaps a sort of backstory of the Khaak also being threatened by the Xenon or some other equally dramatic issue would be worth exploring. Likely, some internal, alien, sort of thing specific to their nature would be just as interesting to explore.

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Post by Nanook » Fri, 20. Oct 17, 22:28

mr.WHO wrote:Xenon gamestart and Xenon gameplay would be something fresh in X-Series.
There was such a start in X3 Reunion. :xenon:
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Post by Rei Ayanami » Sat, 21. Oct 17, 06:25

I seriously hope that there won't be any in-game bonuses for preordering, like bonus missions, bonus ships or whatever. For any customer who gets the game later, they might get the feeling that they'll buy an incomplete product and thus will be less happy with the game itself.

A good preorder bonus maybe would be something non-permanent, like being able to participate in an early-access program, meaning after the release date people who preordered and people who bought the game later have the exact same game.

When i preorder i like to do it to support the company, not to get some arbitrarily chosen ingame thing that's being ripped out of the game to give people some artificial reason to throw money at the dev pre release.

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Post by patient zero » Sat, 21. Oct 17, 06:30

The only thing I ever pre-ordered was OS2. :cry:

I really like the direction Egosoft has taken with x4 but I'm a sore loser. I get angry when I buy retail software that's unfinished, broken, or has dishonest hardware requirements. That being said, Egosoft does have a good reputation for fixing problems and x4 does look good in the Twitch so I might not be able to resist a pre-order opportunity.
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Post by BigBANGtheory » Sat, 21. Oct 17, 07:39

patient zero wrote: Not sure what it would take to tip the scales.
In a word : Quality

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Post by recky » Mon, 23. Oct 17, 11:24

Discount would be nice but not from steam please!!!!

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Post by mr.WHO » Mon, 23. Oct 17, 16:50

recky wrote:Discount would be nice but not from steam please!!!!
Wait, what? Why not for Steam?

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Post by Alan Phipps » Mon, 23. Oct 17, 16:58

Stay on thread topic please. We don't need another Steam debate here.
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Post by spankahontis » Tue, 24. Oct 17, 23:23

An oath written in blood with the power to prosecute on breaking that X Games will not implement the following ideas.

- DLC Whoring (Max 5 dlc)
- Micro-Transactions
- Loot Crates like (Shadow of Mordor, Star Wars Battlefront 2, Overwatch etc.)
- Free Fluff on purchase
- Cut out content, resold to us as first day DLC (Looking at you Creative Assembly).

Morkonan wrote:
mr.WHO wrote:Xenon gamestart and Xenon gameplay would be something fresh in X-Series.
It could also be dangerous, destroying the "mystery" and the sort of "brooding doom" atmosphere the Xenon bring to the setting.

The only barely seen "monster" is always scarier than the one that is fully revealed.

The "alien" in the movie "Alien" was more terrifying, more powerful, more dramatic than the "aliens" in the movie... "Aliens." In order to increase the threat, the drama and the risks, the traditional xenomorph had to be upstaged by a more powerful, more mysterious, "alien queen."

There's a mod to play the Xenon anyway in CWIR.

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Post by RainerPrem » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 06:08

spankahontis wrote:An oath written in blood with the power to prosecute on breaking that X Games will not implement the following ideas.

- DLC Whoring (Max 5 dlc)

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Hi,

I'm certainly willing to pay for more DLCs if they come with appropriate new experiences like unique stations, ships and/or missions.

Adding new Systems to a space exploration game is a logical consequence.

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Post by Skeeter » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 09:50

God no, not even for a new station or system etc. If they want to add content do it a expansion which is at minimal half a new games worth and priced at half the retail games price like say max £15. Which includes new story, new race introduced, new interactive NPC's to talk to or listen to and a new ship list for said new race and station set and maybe new few areas dedicated to new race/story. Dlc that adds so little content as a station or ship is a no no as that should just be free given how little worth such content it is. Don't be like other games offering tiny content for a fiver a pop.

The dlc for xrebirth was overpriced for the tiny content you got.
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Post by adeine » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 10:07

It'd be humorously apt if people who preordered started with a reputation bonus with the Teladi.

Nothing else.

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Post by ezra-r » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 10:31

long long time ago in a galaxy not far far away there were game releases, and then later a patch or two, and maybe even an expansion.

Then came big corps and digital distribution and they start selling "DLC", "digital clothing", "pre-order goods" and this became a virus, a virus that infect players and when there is a game that didn't talk about they, they came in numbers to the forums, asking for DLC, preorder-crap and whatnot, spreading the disease further more.
Or so is this story in my mind. :gruebel:

Like lino I don't understand this, probably I'm too old, and I remember playing in the old DOS days where there was none of this.

Perhaps there is a hidden campaign to spread it? :lol:

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Post by spankahontis » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 15:27

RainerPrem wrote:
spankahontis wrote:An oath written in blood with the power to prosecute on breaking that X Games will not implement the following ideas.

- DLC Whoring (Max 5 dlc)

...
Hi,

I'm certainly willing to pay for more DLCs if they come with appropriate new experiences like unique stations, ships and/or missions.

Adding new Systems to a space exploration game is a logical consequence.

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ooo no-no-no, they do it like Home of Light? then I'm Happy.
Like the Teladi Outpost? Then they're stretching it for me.

In the end i'll just wait until all the content is released into a complete edition.

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Post by Alan Phipps » Wed, 25. Oct 17, 16:11

Errr .. this thread speculation topic is about X4 pre-order bonuses and not DLCs.
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Post by surferx » Thu, 26. Oct 17, 00:58

Alan Phipps wrote:Errr .. this thread speculation topic is about X4 pre-order bonuses and not DLCs.
Respectively, OP did ask if free DLC was an incentive to pre-order, although I don't know how that would even work.
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Post by Graaf » Thu, 26. Oct 17, 07:52

spankahontis wrote:- DLC Whoring (Max 5 dlc)
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- Cut out content, resold to us as first day DLC (Looking at you Creative Assembly).
Something like a Boron DLC?

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Post by Cabrelbeuk » Thu, 26. Oct 17, 08:00

No bonus needed.

Not gonna pre-order it anyway. I don't want to risk beta-testing again. Will buy it once completed.
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Post by Zaknafein » Fri, 27. Oct 17, 21:08

People who preorder after this X-Rebirth launch cannot be helped
Ofc ***modified***, modders doing what Egosoft cant.

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