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Post by clakclak » Sat, 13. Jan 18, 18:45

Masterbagger wrote:Good news everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/preside ... -exam.html

Healthy as a horse.

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Sure if you don't count the fact that he is 50kg overweight. Than again if I was old and rich I would probably also be overweight, but that still doesn't mean it is healthy.
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Post by Masterbagger » Sat, 13. Jan 18, 23:33

clakclak wrote:
Masterbagger wrote:Good news everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/preside ... -exam.html

Healthy as a horse.

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Sure if you don't count the fact that he is 50kg overweight. Than again if I was old and rich I would probably also be overweight, but that still doesn't mean it is healthy.
We use pounds around here. 'Merica.
Grim Lock wrote:Pfffft most of us understand the reasons why people voted for him that's not the issue. It's your continued to be frank blind support that has most of the world baffled. If you support him you have to support his vile behavior, his constant lying and flip-flopping, his inability to surround himself with professonals, his inabilty to fil the position needed to run a goverment, his obvious racism and god-complex. And well we dont have to like people who embrace such low and disgusting standards, is that guy is who you look up to and tell your kids look i hope you grow up like him, it is perfectly fine for us to frown upon such values wether you like it or not.
Who have you voted for and what sort of scandalous things did you personally endorse? If that's the way you want to argue it then no one who has ever cast a vote has a right to judge anyone else.
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Post by brucewarren » Sat, 13. Jan 18, 23:44

Really? There was me thinking you used dollars. :P

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Post by Observe » Sat, 13. Jan 18, 23:51

Grim Lock wrote:If you support him you have to support his vile behavior...
That says it in a nutshell for me. People who act as if Trump can do no wrong, are either blinded by cultural conditioning, or they are unconcerned about having a low-life degenerate in the White House.

I can see how a person may support some of Trumps policies. I admit, there have been one or two ideas which Trump has expressed, that even I, a tree-hugging liberal, have found myself in agreement with. I didn't agree with everything Sanders or Obama or anyone else said or has done either.

However, political and philosophical differences aside, there is no getting around the lack of moral character or even common decency, in this man who the citizenry should be able to look up to as a role model and as an inspiration.

I can respect a person who tells me that they agree with some, or even most of Trump's ideas; but that they too, recognize the man is of low character. That person I can respect; even as I may vehemently disagree with them.

In contrast, it is difficult to work with those, who lack the honesty to admit, or are devoid of the simple sense of morality, to recognize Trump's many blatant shortcomings as a human being and leader of a great nation.

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Post by Masterbagger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 00:32

Observe wrote:
Grim Lock wrote:If you support him you have to support his vile behavior...
That says it in a nutshell for me. People who act as if Trump can do no wrong, are either blinded by cultural conditioning, or they are unconcerned about having a low-life degenerate in the White House.

I can see how a person may support some of Trumps policies. I admit, there have been one or two ideas which Trump has expressed, that even I, a tree-hugging liberal, have found myself in agreement with. However, there is no getting around the lack of moral character or even common decency in the man.

I can respect a person who tells me that they agree with some, or even most of Trump's ideas; but that they too, recognize the man is of low character. That person I can respect; even as I may vehemently disagree with them.

In contrast, it is difficult to work with those, who lack the honesty to admit, or are devoid of the simple sense of morality, to recognize Trump's many blatant shortcomings as a human being or leader.
Who did you vote for? Was your candidate a perfect saint? It's a hell of hypocritical position to take if your vote wasn't for Mother Teresa.
Who made that man a gunner?

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Post by Observe » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 00:45

Masterbagger wrote:Who did you vote for? Was your candidate a perfect saint? It's a hell of hypocritical position to take if your vote wasn't for Mother Teresa.
As I said, I didn't agree with everything Sanders or Obama or anyone else said or has done either. Therefore, no hypocrisy.

Perhaps you miss the point that several here have been trying to convey to you. It's this position of Trump-can-do-no-wrong, that makes it very difficult to discuss any of the various serious issues confronting your nation and the world. That kind of unbalanced position is juvenile, not conducive to discussion and given the scope, dangerous.

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Post by Masterbagger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 01:20

Observe wrote:
Masterbagger wrote:Who did you vote for? Was your candidate a perfect saint? It's a hell of hypocritical position to take if your vote wasn't for Mother Teresa.
As I said, I didn't agree with everything Sanders or Obama or anyone else said or has done either. Therefore, no hypocrisy.

Perhaps you miss the point that several here have been trying to convey to you. It's the position of Trump-can-do-no-wrong, that makes it virtually impossible to discuss any of the various serious issues confronting your nation and the world.
I'm dismissing that point because it's presented as a smear. The possibility that I might not be 100% in agreement with Trump's policy or personal conduct is apparently getting lost in whatever vision of a Trump voter is being projected at me at the time. If you want to take the position that support for a candidate is not support for all of that candidates actions then I'm in agreement with you. Now apply that toward Trump supporters as well.
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Post by Grim Lock » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 11:14

No we are dismissing you :P I voted for someone with a whole lot more integrity than you did, but then i again i could choose from dozens of candidates! Isnt multiparty grand! What you are saying is i chose the lesser of two evils. WTH i thought the US was such a great democracy (lol) but apparently the people don't have enough influence on the system that they get choose from decent people. Ha whats the greatest country in the world again? What a joke.

And btw we are also saying that you chose the worst of two evils. Hilary might be bad, but Trump is the worst we have seen in a long time in the western world. Berlusconi was as un-trustworthy as Trump, but at least he was really smart and knew how to talk properly. And again if you are saying that others are as bad as Trump, you are the one showing your bias, not the ones that don't agree with you.



The rest of the world is starting to suffer badly from Trump and America fatigue, if this guy indeed stays the fulll term, it will take the us a very long time to recover from that.
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Post by kohlrak » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 12:27

Grim Lock wrote:No we are dismissing you :P I voted for someone with a whole lot more integrity than you did, but then i again i could choose from dozens of candidates! Isnt multiparty grand! What you are saying is i chose the lesser of two evils. WTH i thought the US was such a great democracy (lol) but apparently the people don't have enough influence on the system that they get choose from decent people. Ha whats the greatest country in the world again? What a joke.

And btw we are also saying that you chose the worst of two evils. Hilary might be bad, but Trump is the worst we have seen in a long time in the western world. Berlusconi was as un-trustworthy as Trump, but at least he was really smart and knew how to talk properly. And again if you are saying that others are as bad as Trump, you are the one showing your bias, not the ones that don't agree with you.



The rest of the world is starting to suffer badly from Trump and America fatigue, if this guy indeed stays the fulll term, it will take the us a very long time to recover from that.
Reminds me of Bush the son. He was a jerk, and he was crooked. Snowden seems pretty left, to me, but even he painted a somewhat positive image of bush the son. You know what i think? I think that human beings, being able to adapt to changes, believe that if they're not living the best they can, they will change and adapt to become the best that they can. I believe this is the basis for the Dunning-Kreuger effect. As a result, if you don't agree with someone on something, you believe they're operating under different information. We, naturally, have faith in our preferred information sources, thus we assume that the other person is operating under incorrect information. Then, in turn, we assume they're therefore stupid (because you can't count incorrect knowledge as more intelligent than correct knowledge).

tl;dr: Has it ever occurred to you that people you don't agree with sound stupid because they're talking that far above your head that it sounds like incompetent blabber, because you don't understand the words?

If Bush were stupid, and if Trump were stupid, why have they accomplished so much more than you? Or are you actually willing to admit they're still more intelligent than you? And don't give me the opportunity thing. How many millionaires squandered their initial opportunities of the public education system (yes, i'm breaking my own heart) and suddenly became incredibly rich?

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Post by Grim Lock » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 12:37

Lol im very happy with my achievements in life, and succes isn't a measure of intelligence. Beeing smart doesn't mean you have to run for president and beeing dumb doesn't mean you wont.

Saying he is succesfull so he must be smart is simplistic thinking, and doesn't come across as smart to me. Again way to be critical of your leaders.

I don't see you beeing the prez of the USA, but you do understand them? According to your reasoning you shouldn't be smart enough to do that either, lol
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Post by CBJ » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 12:44

Things are getting a little too personal again. It's obviously a hot topic, but try and keep it friendly please.

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Post by clakclak » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 15:20

Masterbagger wrote:
clakclak wrote:
Masterbagger wrote:Good news everyone!

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/12/preside ... -exam.html

Healthy as a horse.

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Sure if you don't count the fact that he is 50kg overweight. Than again if I was old and rich I would probably also be overweight, but that still doesn't mean it is healthy.
We use pounds around here. 'Merica.[...]
Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too. :wink:



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.
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Post by Masterbagger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 18:26

clakclak wrote:
Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too. :wink:



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.
It's our internet.
Who made that man a gunner?

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Post by mrbadger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 19:07

Masterbagger wrote:
clakclak wrote:
Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too. :wink:



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.
It's our internet.
Um, no, not even slightly.

America created the initial Internet, but it ceased to be America's internet the moment the US handed the rest of the world the design and we all built our own implementation.

This was done, if you know your history, in the interest of maintaining world peace in the event of a war or major disaster. Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse.

I mean sure, the US can cut itself off from the rest of the world, and with that possibly the internet if it wants.

It rather seems sometimes that an increasing number of Americans want just that. But such a course of action wouldn't end well. Not for the US I mean.

The rest of us would be ok.
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Post by RegisterMe » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 19:53

Masterbagger wrote:
clakclak wrote:
Egosoft is a German company and I think the website is hosted in Germany too. :wink:



In other bizarre news, Trump supporters tried to arrest the mayor of London. Spoiler: It did not work.
It's our internet.
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Post by Masterbagger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 20:27

mrbadger wrote:
Um, no, not even slightly.

America created the initial Internet, but it ceased to be America's internet the moment the US handed the rest of the world the design and we all built our own implementation.

This was done, if you know your history, in the interest of maintaining world peace in the event of a war or major disaster. Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse.

I mean sure, the US can cut itself off from the rest of the world, and with that possibly the internet if it wants.

It rather seems sometimes that an increasing number of Americans want just that. But such a course of action wouldn't end well. Not for the US I mean.

The rest of us would be ok.
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Post by mrbadger » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 20:49

Not a very good joke. Jokes are a story with a humorous climax right?

Or at least some form of point.

Back to the current issue though, I'm not really surprised Trump doesn't want to come to the UK. He'd be criticized and heckled loudly wherever he went and he knows it.

At the moment he can't even do a press briefing face to face. He's only daring to do them by video link in his own country.

He's a precious little snowflake who's always been able to fire people that have criticized him in the past.
Presidents can't do that. They can't stop books being published either.

Obama couldn't stop him using the Birther thing as a veiled way of yelling 'we don't want no n***** president' at him. That just made Obama seem the better person to us.

But he can't cope with people not liking him, not one bit. You'd think he would, what with him being a very stable genius.
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Post by Golden_Gonads » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 21:26

Hawaii have a false warning about a ballistic missile headed their way, leading to lots of panic. Meanwhile, Trump finishes up a game of golf and a couple of hours later tweets about fake news regarding him and a porn star.

... Since the Whitehouse have said “The President has been briefed on the state of Hawaii’s emergency management exercise, this was purely a state exercise.”

So they admit it was a balls up at the same time they're saying it was an official exercise?
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Post by BugMeister » Sun, 14. Jan 18, 21:49

mrbadger wrote: Back when there was a little more common sense in the Whitehouse..

- Great-Aunt Mary would be having kittens..!! :lol:
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Post by Santi » Mon, 15. Jan 18, 00:58

Knowing Trump, he will only pop to Britain once Brexit is done to do a commercial deal.

So far the few visits to the continent has been to criticize the lack on investment regarding defence, hang around looking smug and get out of some international agreements.

America first! So not, he is not faffing around trying to be a force that will galvanize other countries in search of global solutions etc. And those who expect that, because unbelievably, some are still thinking like Trump gives a hoot for the international community, will be severely disappointed.
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