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PostPosted: Tue, 13. Feb 18, 23:42    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

VincentTH wrote:
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Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.

https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru


Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!


60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 01:25    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Fureimuu wrote:
VincentTH wrote:
Fureimuu wrote:
Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.

https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru


Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!


60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.


A ship being robust means it is sturdy, and so a low robustness means it takes more to maintain. It makes sense that your other ships with higher robustness would be cheaper, while the ship with very low robustness would be the most expensive. 60k credits is really not much and is easy to keep up even with a large fleet of them.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 10:06    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Kingtrin wrote:
Fureimuu wrote:
VincentTH wrote:
Fureimuu wrote:
Sirokos has very low robustness, yet costs 60K per hour. Isn't it M7's maintenance cost? It doubled my most expensive M6.

https://imgur.com/a/PK1ru


Robustness is random for each game. The Sirokos would have different value if you start a new game!!!!!!


60K is too much for an M6, that was my point. Robustness means nothing in this case, I have other M6s with higher robustness, yet they are still twice as cheap.


A ship being robust means it is sturdy, and so a low robustness means it takes more to maintain. It makes sense that your other ships with higher robustness would be cheaper, while the ship with very low robustness would be the most expensive. 60k credits is really not much and is easy to keep up even with a large fleet of them.


So all that time I was sure that robustness stands for "expensiveness" LMAO. I'll be honest with you, I never even looked that word up in a dictionary, my mistake. But still, 60K is WAY TOO MUCH!

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 10:14    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Skiron is powerful and expensive corvette. I don't see a problem with 60k if it has low robustness. If its too much for you just use different corvette, that is why robustness is random every game - to make every playthrough even more unique!

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 10:24    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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Skiron is powerful and expensive corvette. I don't see a problem with 60k if it has low robustness. If its too much for you just use different corvette, that is why robustness is random every game - to make every playthrough even more unique!


It was the Sirokos, the best M6 IMHO, therefore the high maintenance, coupled with the low robustness.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 11:13    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Oh, sometimes I miss the combat dynamics from XTL.https://youtu.be/-4Yuy7W4zOs
Panda, is it possible to make some indicator of sector takeover like in video? Or there is no sense?

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 11:49    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

VincentTH wrote:
Shuulo wrote:
Skiron is powerful and expensive corvette. I don't see a problem with 60k if it has low robustness. If its too much for you just use different corvette, that is why robustness is random every game - to make every playthrough even more unique!


It was the Sirokos, the best M6 IMHO, therefore the high maintenance, coupled with the low robustness.

Not good ship IMHO for fleet. In fleet batles turrets has bigger role than main guns, because in fleet battles ships always "dancing" around their target, not lloking straigt at it. My choice is Phantom.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 12:08    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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My choice is Phantom.


and mine is heavy centaur and skiron, love them

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 12:59    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

I prefer the Appollox. Solid shields and fast.
But also they are just support ships, so their guns aren't that big a deal. My main fleet is M3 swarms.


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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 13:38    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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I prefer the Appollox. Solid shields and fast.
But also they are just support ships, so their guns aren't that big a deal. My main fleet is M3 swarms.


M4s (asp, pike) en mass are better imho. You put more guns in enemy's face for much lower cost. I personally fly a wing of cougars though.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 14:22    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Sirokos is worse than Tempestine, at least if you pilot it yourself. I decided to sell it in the end.

P.S. Just boarded an Aegir and it's 200K per hour Very Happy Rip money

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 14:49    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

Shuulo wrote:

M4s (asp, pike) en mass are better imho. You put more guns in enemy's face for much lower cost. I personally fly a wing of cougars though.
How much m4 do you have in your fleet and is it enough to conquer a sector or defend against OCV having m1/m2 in their fleet?

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Has anyone managed to get Kha'ak ships? Do they bail and/or can they be boarded?

Nividium is nice and all, but I feel those sexy ships are underutilized.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 16:32    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

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How much m4 do you have in your fleet and is it enough to conquer a sector or defend against OCV having m1/m2 in their fleet?


depends on the threat level. I use m4s with Tern mostly, this is dirt cheap (or Raptor, it is cheap as well). They simply outswarm enemies (my biggest fleet consisted of 6 Terns full of asps(150) with addition of Shark with 60 cougars. The hidden benefit is that your m3s are much more survivable if there are tons of m4s, as enemy tries to focus them first just because of their numbers, but due to their speed and small size they are harder targets to everything except flaks.

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PostPosted: Wed, 14. Feb 18, 16:49    Post subject: Reply with quote Print

deztar wrote:
Has anyone managed to get Kha'ak ships? Do they bail and/or can they be boarded?

Nividium is nice and all, but I feel those sexy ships are underutilized.


Panda answered this question already. You can't cap them

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