Why do Destroyer and Carrier Class ships look IDENTICAL......???

Charlie901 · Post by **Charlie901** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 20:30

Why is the ARGON ONE and the TITAN, exactly the same ship, visually.

Same goes for the other races..........

Should'nt a CARRIER Class ship have a HANGER BAY somewhere....???

Is there a CARRIER CLASS Model, for all races, hidden in the game files somewhere?

Is this something that can be addressed or added?

Incubi · Post by **Incubi** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 20:32

They are small diiferences. I think that on one hand they wanted continuity of ships. On the other hand it was pure lazyness.

Stevio · Post by **Stevio** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 20:36

the argon one is the flagship of the argon millitary there is no difference because it is just the first of the colosus type carrier to be made "because of a reported xenon supership" according to Betty

Sharktooth · Post by **Sharktooth** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 20:41

Try this link;

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=100641

There is an X3 pictorial size of all the capital class ships and their sizes. there are differences if you look at the M1 and M2's, and their stats are different while one can carry fighters, the other cannot. I cannot open that link but its there under ship stats.

Stevio · Post by **Stevio** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 20:45

thats the wrong link it isn't in the tutorial thread. i think???

Sharktooth · Post by **Sharktooth** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 21:03

No stevio, there is a pictorial sizes link in that webpage the link takes you to, i just cant open it on this pc at the moment. Its shows the subtle differences and sizes of all M1/M2 ships.

Sharktooth · Post by **Sharktooth** » Wed, 1. Feb 06, 21:07

stevio wrote:thats the wrong link it isn't in the tutorial thread. i think???

Yeah, here is the correct one. Enjoy.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1561/scaled9qc.jpg

Charlie901 · Post by **Charlie901** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 06:41

Tooth wrote:Try this link;

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=100641

There is an X3 pictorial size of all the capital class ships and their sizes. there are differences if you look at the M1 and M2's, and their stats are different while one can carry fighters, the other cannot. I cannot open that link but its there under ship stats.

Nice link thanks!

It makes it easier to notice the subtle differences when they are to scale and side by side like that.

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 07:56

Charlie901 wrote:Why is the ARGON ONE and the COLLOSUS exactly the same ship, visually.

Because they ARE the same ship--they're both carriers. If you'd compared the Titan to Argon One you might have had a point, but even then there are differences between the two.

Cucumber King · Post by **Cucumber King** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 10:03

The ships I don't like for being cap ships that actually have to transport something are the split ships. The elephant is too thin to carry anything and the carrier is also pretty thin.

bladesofdeath · Post by **bladesofdeath** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 10:11

the Argon One is nothing more than than a normal carrier which has flagship status within the game.

i think with the fact that the xenon and the khakk have both had M0's that each race should have its own flagship that is a M0

Geggo · Post by **Geggo** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 10:25

Heh, if you look at the Argon M1 side shot, you see that it has a HUGE space cannon built on top of it, from the looks of it it can turn 90 degree up and 180 to side.

And the Paranid TL and M1 are only missing Mast on top of them to make it perfect sailing boat for the borons. should they ever want to be on the water.

And as for the ships looking alike, what's the point in making 2 different hulls if you can make one that can be either carrier or destroyer, it costs credits to design ships doesn't it.

Sharktooth · Post by **Sharktooth** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 14:05

charlie901, have you tried the second link I gave you that puts all the capital ships on the same page for size comparisons?

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 17:29

Geggo wrote:Heh, if you look at the Argon M1 side shot, you see that it has a HUGE space cannon built on top of it, from the looks of it it can turn 90 degree up and 180 to side.

However, if you look at it in-game it becomes quite obvious that this "space cannon" is just another engine.

Thalass · Post by **Thalass** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 17:54

Tooth wrote:
stevio wrote:thats the wrong link it isn't in the tutorial thread. i think???
Yeah, here is the correct one. Enjoy.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1561/scaled9qc.jpg

... zomg

Those ships are beautiful!

Ever thought of submitting this to the guy who does http://www.merzo.net ?

It'd be good to see how the X-Universe ships compare to the other universes!

Charlie901 · Post by **Charlie901** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 18:06

Tooth wrote:charlie901, have you tried the second link I gave you that puts all the capital ships on the same page for size comparisons?

Yes got your PM thank you!

Charlie901 · Post by **Charlie901** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 18:19

pjknibbs wrote:
Charlie901 wrote:Why is the ARGON ONE and the COLLOSUS exactly the same ship, visually.
Because they ARE the same ship--they're both carriers. If you'd compared the Titan to Argon One you might have had a point, but even then there are differences between the two.

DoH....!

That's what I meant.....I'm changing my original post now

antman112 · Post by **antman112** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 18:27

Charlie901 wrote:Why is the ARGON ONE and the TITAN, exactly the same ship, visually.

Same goes for the other races..........

Should'nt a CARRIER Class ship have a HANGER BAY somewhere....???

Is there a CARRIER CLASS Model, for all races, hidden in the game files somewhere?

Is this something that can be addressed or added?

wait a min the carriers have a hanger bay the M2's dont

there is no model hidan that is the modal

thay use there ships and modefy the disinen for there needs

thats like saying why are all sea ships look the same coz thats the way we made them and thats the way thay work best

the argon have big powerfull

the spilt have short streamlined and meen looking

the boron look alive ships

the Teladi just a lot of junk and huge

the Paranid have war looking ships

there not exatily the same i know it looks like it at 1st but you see there is big things missing and added on and the shape and that changeds

you note that the M1's are biger more blucky then the M2's
and the TL's evan more so

Geggo · Post by **Geggo** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 18:45

Thalass wrote:
Tooth wrote:
stevio wrote:thats the wrong link it isn't in the tutorial thread. i think???
Yeah, here is the correct one. Enjoy.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1561/scaled9qc.jpg

... zomg

Those ships are beautiful!

Ever thought of submitting this to the guy who does http://www.merzo.net ?

It'd be good to see how the X-Universe ships compare to the other universes!

Only problem would be that the site is down.....

Tyrmadris · Post by **Tyrmadris** » Thu, 2. Feb 06, 19:03

I dunno. I agree with the first guy.

The Destroyers and Carriers are almost visually identical, except for a line here or a hangar bay hammered on there.

Personally, I'd like for them to be visually obvious as to their purpose. They look like one hull design slightly altered. I know it's probably wrong to bring up 'real world' ships, but it is immediately obvious as to which ships are carriers and which are destroyers. Namely, the former has big runways (hangars) and the latter has more guns. I know this is a sci-fi/fantasy game, but you'd figure the hangars would be massive and obvious, something the ship is built around since that is its purpose. As it is, you have to struggle to visually ID the difference between, say, a Argon or Split M1 versus their same M2. If it didn't have the icon in the upper corner or tell you its name when clicked on, you'd really be in a bit of a bind.

But... it's not a major enough issue for me to worry about. I just hope they take it into account for X4.

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