Bug: Electro Magnetic Plasma Cannon

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Bug: Electro Magnetic Plasma Cannon

Post by JeffreyW75 » Wed, 29. Jul 09, 22:27

I, like many other users, no longer have a factory in Aldrin producing experimental electro magnetic plasma cannons. I apparently used to, because I bought a SpringBlossom and put them on it. But now I can't find any station producing them, nor are they being sold. And you can't build a station to build them yourself.

So I am reporting this bug that I and others have faced for a while. Any solution in the works? Any existing solution? Possibly needs to be addressed in an upcoming patch? Thanks,
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Post by Deadbeat_Spinn » Wed, 29. Jul 09, 22:47

Existing solution, cloning perhaps (though I'm not sure if that works for experimental weapons). I do know of one way that would certainly work in vanilla game BUT the game has to be pre 1.4 in order to work.

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Post by Psirus » Wed, 29. Jul 09, 23:36

experimental weapons are the same as normal weapons, just sell them to the eq dock, then buy the ships and keep going up and down on the weapons.
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Post by Deadbeat_Spinn » Thu, 30. Jul 09, 00:44

What I meant when I mentioned cloning was that I wasn't sure if there is an EQ in Aldrin near the shipyard since I haven't made it Aldrin at this time, unless you can do it at the regular Terran EQ's/shipyards.

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Post by JeffreyW75 » Thu, 30. Jul 09, 04:04

There are other topics on the board that discuss cloning. This topic is just making Egosoft aware of the bug, so they can hopefully fix it in the next patch. Other topics discuss how to clone the weapon, but that isn't a real fix for the problem. There should be stations selling the weapon, but they aren't.
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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths » Fri, 31. Jul 09, 20:36

JeffreyW75 wrote:There are other topics on the board that discuss cloning. This topic is just making Egosoft aware of the bug, so they can hopefully fix it in the next patch. Other topics discuss how to clone the weapon, but that isn't a real fix for the problem. There should be stations selling the weapon, but they aren't.
Are you sure it is not because they keep running out of resources?... production of these weapons is slow.
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Post by Alan Phipps » Fri, 31. Jul 09, 20:58

No, the 2 Aldrin weapon fabs which had bugged EEMPC production before 2.0 don't even list, let alone make, EEMPCs any more with 2.1. There was an Aldrin EEMPC Forge patched in with 2.0 but for some people GOD has already removed it again. With no production anywhere in Aldrin, the 3 Aldrin Unknown Station depots quickly and permanently run out of EEMPCs.

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Post by JeffreyW75 » Fri, 31. Jul 09, 21:09

I have several ST's in Aldrin keeping production going with good supply of items to stations. Still no EEMPC's to be found. This is a bug. I resorted to cloning for the moment, but need to fix this with a patch.
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Post by frymaster » Fri, 31. Jul 09, 23:02

on the one hand it's not technically a bug (factories being allowed to be killed off is definately by design), on the other hand it's a bit unfair if it's possible for the only supply of something to be killed off before you can get to it
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Post by JeffreyW75 » Sat, 1. Aug 09, 01:10

And later on when the Terran factories become available (I am past that point), you can't build their factories. So the weapons are effectively removed from the game. At least other weapons you can collect from battle or factories. So many Terran ships will equip the EEMPC, that you have to have a reliable source of them.
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Post by 5c0rch! » Sat, 1. Aug 09, 04:20

seriously, a small edit to GOD to make it so It can't remove a station when its the only one in existence would make things a lot easier/less bugged imo.
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Post by Alan Phipps » Sat, 1. Aug 09, 14:48

Or enhance the Patch 2.0 routine that put the EEMPC Forge into Aldrin only this time with a resident element that will replace the Forge if it ceases to exist in Alrin. This would be similar to the X3R patch that made it so that if no Tractor Beam Fab existed in the Universe then one would be spawned. The Aldrin one would be simpler than that because it need only poll one sector and not the whole Universe.

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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths » Sat, 1. Aug 09, 17:45

This is probably a bug as I thought there was a GOD engine fix in 2.0 or 2.1 to prevent it obliterating all terran stations of a given type (could be that the new Aldrin EEMPC stations were excluded by accident?)

This information really needs to be posted in the L3+ forums as I do not believe that bugs are picked up from the main forums (according to something I read in a post a while back)
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Post by JeffreyW75 » Sat, 1. Aug 09, 23:47

Do you remember which part of L3 bugs go in? I forget.
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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths » Sun, 2. Aug 09, 00:56

JeffreyW75 wrote:Do you remember which part of L3 bugs go in? I forget.
I would suggest the Beta testing forum (but don't forget to include the version of TC you are running)
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Post by JeffreyW75 » Mon, 3. Aug 09, 14:46

I posted it here - L3 thread

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no eempc weapons or forges

Post by grantgto101 » Sun, 31. Oct 10, 11:39

I have the same problem, I cannot find any eempc guns to buy and so far no forges either. In a previous game i did have them. I have amassed about 50 million in the bank and still cannot buy eempc.

on a side note please remove that big rock and do something about the framerate.

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Re: no eempc weapons or forges

Post by vr01 » Mon, 1. Nov 10, 12:50

grantgto101 wrote:I have the same problem, I cannot find any eempc guns to buy and so far no forges either. In a previous game i did have them. I have amassed about 50 million in the bank and still cannot buy eempc.

on a side note please remove that big rock and do something about the framerate.

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