(XR3) I am looking at getting a destroyer. Are they all equal (X3R)

LordForrester · Post by **LordForrester** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:10

Is one Destroyer better than another or are they all better at different things?

I think my Subject was misleading sorry I understand they have different load outs I just mean are they all relatively equal.

maphys · Post by **maphys** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:15

They are very different.

Python: Rules. Fast, deadly, narrow profile and huge weapons energy.
Titan: More like a galleon - deadly 'broadsides' an an OK ship
Ray: Not that great, sadly. Looks all right.
Phoenix: No idea what this ship is for. Great shields but ugly, slow and underpowered in terms of energy generator.
Odysseus: Another great ship but has a nasty tendency, when fully fitted with gPSGs, to be the universe's most lethal friendly fire machine.

As you can guess I'd say go for the Split one, maybe the Paranid as a second. I use the Argon ones OOS as they are pretty cheap, IIRC. I use the Ray for sectors I am going to fly through a lot as it looks good.

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jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:38

"different things" is the keyword. Odysseus and Python have more "raw power".

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:49

im wondering about the exact same THING! i don't mind the looks of the ships but the Teladi is the only ship that can mount 10GJ shield so i hope you get your answer because im searching(as i mentioned) for an M2 too

LordForrester · Post by **LordForrester** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:52

I am sure it comes down to Personal preference but that is why I asked cause I like to see what others like about there M2 or don't like.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:54

for now im going for the Teladis because of the shielding and all M2's can mount GPPC so why not have heavy shields with the heavy guns?

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 17:57

The Nightmare wrote:im wondering about the exact same THING! i don't mind the looks of the ships but the Teladi is the only ship that can mount 10GJ shield so i hope you get your answer because im searching(as i mentioned) for an M2 too

And due to an oddity in the way shield recharge is calculated, the single 10GJ shield on that destroyer will recharge faster than any shields on any other destroyer. Being able to mount GPPC is only half the answer, though--don't forget that fighters are around! You won't hit them easily with GPPC and they can do a surprising amount of damage. This is why the Boron Ray is generally considered subpar in X3R--it can't mount FAA which makes it poor against fighters, and a sufficient quantity of them will take it down.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 18:14

who said ill fly it without escort

maphys · Post by **maphys** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 18:22

The Nightmare wrote:for now im going for the Teladis because of the shielding and all M2's can mount GPPC so why not have heavy shields with the heavy guns?

Because I like being able to outmanoeuvre other destroyers? Heavy shields are needed when you are the size of a station, as slow as a space suit and as quick to turn as something very slow at turning indeed. I find the profile and speed of the Python more than make up for the reduced shields - my only gripe with the Oddy is that someone just has to point roughly in its direction (from above or below) and they will hit you! The Titan is just a bit too average for me.

As has been said - personal taste. And also style/tactics. I've always favoured speed and agility over shields - which is why I am at heart a Split-ship kind of pilot.

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killakanz · Post by **killakanz** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 18:35

If all else fails, go 'window shopping'. fly about, find one, select him and press I and check out their stats, what they can carry etc. You don't need a freight scanner to do that.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 18:38

thats why people made databases

anyway im a guy who likes deadly ship with the most powerful shields and wepons

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 19:44

The Nightmare wrote:thats why people made databases

Numbers don't tell everything. It is also typical for a new M2 captain to enter a fight, and the coroner to write: "loss due to inexperienced pilot".

I've flown all six vanilla M2. I do recommend experimenting.

LordForrester · Post by **LordForrester** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 20:10

I plan on it but it is kinda expensive so for my first one I was doing a little research into what would best fit my style.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 20:19

i think the Tedali's M2 fits my style of mobile base

LordForrester · Post by **LordForrester** » Fri, 16. Oct 09, 20:42

I have a 3 ring binder full of ship specs and data sheet just for this game. I have looked over the specs for all the M2s.

How does the reactor output effect the ship? The phoenix has the lowest out put off all the other ship by a large margin.

It is the slowest and it looks like that might be depressingly slow.

The Ray might be a good CAP killing only M2 but not good for a first ship. I need something that can fill all rolls.

The Spit does look nice but I am concerned about those shields. This leaves me the Titan and the Odysseus as the best all around M2s. The flying Brick and the flying hub cap!

The Ody can carry small stations so that is useful and has better speed energy , reactor output and recharge time.

So just looking at the paper for a first good all around ship the Ody is best.

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Sat, 17. Oct 09, 11:01

Reactor output relates to shield recharge, but trust me, it doesn't tell the whole story. The Phoenix's shield WILL recharge faster than any other M2 in the game, trust me on that.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Sat, 17. Oct 09, 11:34

it makes sence to make it deadly and heavy shilded....that thing can barely move

Gothsheep · Post by **Gothsheep** » Sat, 17. Oct 09, 11:42

Python. Just...Python. There's no need to experiment, because other people already have. Egosoft got their balancing a little bit wrong with X3: Reunion, and as a result, one destroyer clearly just won, and it's the Python.

Never, EVER underestimate the value of its slim attack profile. As a destroyer, ANY destroyer, you're going to get your face melted if you just sit there taking fire. You strafe to avoid fire, and that's how you win fights. The Python has the fastest speed, best power, and it's slim attack profile means that, even though it has less shielding than the others, it will take less damage, and so it ends up having MORE staying power than a Phoenix or Odysseus.

The Nightmare · Post by **The Nightmare** » Sat, 17. Oct 09, 11:45

when strafing and avoiding fire you have hard time to hit your target as well

Gothsheep · Post by **Gothsheep** » Sat, 17. Oct 09, 12:11

The Nightmare wrote:when strafing and avoiding fire you have hard time to hit your target as well

Naa. That's what turrets are for. I mean there's an art to strafing so your shots smash into your target, it's really not that hard.

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(XR3) I am looking at getting a destroyer. Are they all equal (X3R)

(XR3) I am looking at getting a destroyer. Are they all equal (X3R)