[TC] If I kill an IBL fab does the AI use a TL to replace it?

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 14:21

I thinking of clobbering the IBL fab owned by the Yaki and then
boarding the TL bearing it's replacement.

WIll GOD simply magic a replacement into space, or will it be necessarily
be brought in on a TL?

Will this cunning plan work?

SIMON POPPLEWELL · Post by **SIMON POPPLEWELL** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 14:53

Well I destroyed the 2 IBLs in Weaver's Tempest several game days ago and they have yet to be replaced.

kelmen · Post by **kelmen** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 15:13

station do get respawn back, but i doubt its by TL, and even if it does, we don't know exactly when that will happen

so, dont bother about that

jwigeland · Post by **jwigeland** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 15:54

There's a thread about someone suceeding with this method, except he was going for PBG forges. I've yet to hear of a success with the IBLs... maybe try the pirate one in Loom's instead of the Yaki ones?

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 16:05

Yeah - IF God replaces them (which is a big IF!) they will be replaced by TL. There is the obvious difficulty of knowing when, tho...

Tim

jwigeland · Post by **jwigeland** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 16:10

Hmmm... if your rep is high enough with Yaki they may tolerate you offing one of the fabs. That way, you can leave advanced satellites in their space and get notified when a TL spawns. Just an idea...

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 16:42

AFAIK, the AI will only replace stations using TLs if it is something that can be purchased at a shipyard.

In the case of special stations, like trading docks, equipment docks, etc, the game will just respawn it. I realize that trading and EQ docks can be purchased at shipyards as well, but they are just respawned by the AI.

So, in order to use a TL, IF the game decides to replace it, it would have to be available at a shipyard somewhere, like all of the other factories. If it is not available at a shipyard, then it will probably just respawn, IF the GoD determines that it is necessary to replace it.

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 17:03

Is the PBG forge available at any station? I didn't think it was and N-S boarded a TL with one on board in one of his DiD stories...

Tim

CaptG · Post by **CaptG** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 18:07

I didnt say it was impossible. The GoD engine can do anything it wants to, but I thought that station construction by TL was only possible if the station to be constructed was available at a shipyard, for the AI or the player. AI, of course, has the added advantage of recreating any station at will, without a TL.

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 18:09

Thanks everyone.

Well it looks as though the Grand Plan might me a Grand Flop, though
I might try in Loomthingy legacy before giving up completely.

I reckon the EEMPC forge plan is dead in water too.

GCU Grey Area · Post by **GCU Grey Area** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 18:48

brucewarren wrote:I might try in Loomthingy legacy before giving up completely.

I tried destroying that one myself a few weeks ago & still no sign of its replacement being built or transported to the sector.

jwigeland · Post by **jwigeland** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 19:18

If you have an aversion to scripting, you may be at a dead end here...

However, I believe using Cycrow's cheat package that if you "add station to TL" and select the fab you want (PBG, IBL, etc) it should work fine when deployed.

There are also scripts availale to add some of the otherwise unobtainable shpis and stations to various shipyards - check out the S&M forum.

Killjaeden · Post by **Killjaeden** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 19:19

It's not guaranteed that they will be replaced...
And of course you don't know where this TL spawns.
So you have to scan the hole area around this sector constantly if there is any TL.
The chances are high that you miss it.
If the TL is in the target-sector you have little chance of capturing it with the station.

Because right after you board it it c. ontinues with it's command (build station).There is no way to tell the autopilot to fly somewhere else. You have to fly it manually (Jumping doesn't work, autopilot doesn't work, deceleration doesn't work... don't remember about SETA)

I boarded a TL with a PBG-Forge in Hatikvahs Faith, but only because i was there when the TL popped in. It came from the south gate and it's destination was Danna's Chance

jwigeland · Post by **jwigeland** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 19:23

Huh - wierd. If you fly it manually can you dock at a station to transfer the kit over to another TL so you can deploy the station where you want it?

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 19:41

You can't transfer stations like that. The only way to transfer stations from one ship to another is with the Hub/PHQ.

Tim

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 19:45

I seems Stations must be too big for the transporter device and for
EQs and Trading stations, but not it would appear for
the Hub or the PHQ, so one of these stations could be used for the
ship <> station <> other ship transfer

Of course they might have changed that in 2.5

It's possible to deploy the station immediately, it's flying the TL that's hard.

EDIT: beaten to the punch by perkint

jwigeland · Post by **jwigeland** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 20:01

Ah! Well, I have the HUB, so that's okay. I can always fly the TL myself (maybe have a fighter jump in and dock with me so I can transfer over SETA and a J/D).

LOL, of course that's assuming I find the TL and successfully board it since boarding became so hard in 2.5 (and I failed miserably at my only boarding attempt before - LOL).

Do you think GoD uses a station's production to determine if it should be replaced? Maybe pumping up the station's activity for a day or two with some dedicated trading will make a replacement more likely when you off it. Agree?

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 21:26

jwigeland wrote:Do you think GoD uses a station's production to determine if it should be replaced? Maybe pumping up the station's activity for a day or two with some dedicated trading will make a replacement more likely when you off it. Agree?

Yep - it seems that is what it works off

Tim

York Bro · Post by **York Bro** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 21:45

so the PBG forge from Danna`s Chance is replaced ?

some three game days in from when i first noticed the forge`s dissapearance,
if itis replaced...is there a known game day timeline, even if approx, for this event to occur ?

edit.. Apologies for the topic swerve

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 22. Oct 09, 22:04

I wonder if you can dock this TL with Aran and then jump whereever required?

On topic, I wiped IBL forges in Yaki's space a while ago and the didn't respawn as of today.

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[TC] If I kill an IBL fab does the AI use a TL to replace it?

If I kill an IBL fab does the AI use a TL to replace it?