M1 or M2 which?

[hallegue]

Hi there,
I have 66 ships including a Panther and a Demois fully loaded, and I want to get a ship to go to the Xenon sectors and kick some a??.
I have 166 millions and 37 PPCs and the necessary shields.
Can you guys tell me which should i buy???
Your comments will be really appreciated

[tanner1ie]

Short answer, buy both.
You'll find uses for both, though i'd say buy a Destroyer first as your Panther is already a capable carrier.

[AgamemnonArgon]

Two choices, Boreas or (unsurprisingly) a Boreas.
I went into Dukes, with two Boreas and four Shrikes, and cleared the place out last week.
Getting the weapons is the problem. I don't own my own large heavy weapons complexes, so rely on the NPC stations. I keep ships on station just to buy the things as they appear.
Although, must admit, I have considered a Paranid destroyer, but don't want a third type on inventory (I own four Phoenix also).
Buy OTAS, you won't be disappointed.

[GaianKnight]

Hope you have the rank too, for the ship you want.

So far, the Split Python (M2) and Raptor (M1) are my nasty faves. (Not including modding or such of course.) And actually, the Teladi Phoenix (M2) and Condor (M1) are my next vanilla choices. The Argon versions come next. Terran after, then Paranid and then Boron. (Course it's more like 1A then 1B then so on and all for me.)

[hallegue]

Good point about the Panther, I was thinking about a Titan. the only thing I don't like is that is too slow only 49? The Boreas looks very rare and over price? And the Split ships the shield are weak. Any comments?

[Deadbeat_Spinn]

Destroyers aren't meant to be fast.
The Boreas has that pricetag because it's the most overpowered M2 in the game (even after a nerfing) despite being labeled a "light" destroyer.
The Split always trade shielding for speed/firepower.

[hallegue]

So the Boreas is better than the Titan? the titan can have 24 PPCs.
8 front
8 right
8 left
and that is power, is the Boreas more powerful?
Can you get more PPCs?

[AgamemnonArgon]

Having "flown" the Boreas in attacks, I find it better than the X2 Titan, despite a lack of fighters slung underneath. It turns fast, and the PPCs wreak havok on most things, although it took both Boreas to finally destroy Dukes.
It flies straight, it turns well, and is not sluggish. The speed is good and the view is great - especially with all those cannons firing front and sides.
Even a large pack of fighters are dealt with by this beast.
I have 3 sets of 8 rows of PPCs on both Boreas. And other weaponry such as EBC and Flak.

[Deadbeat_Spinn]

Power isn't always the amount/type of weapons the ship can mount. True power is in the weapons generator and the Boreas' is bigger than the Titans' so it can maintain fire for a longer period of time.
I don't recall who said this

Prior to the nerfing a Boreas could fire almost indefinitely, after the nerfing you have to take a slight break from firing every now and then.

(though not exactly in those words).

Plus a Boreas is faster and has more shielding (as well as the shield recharge rate) than a Titan though the Titan has a bigger cargo bay.

[hallegue]

Ok guys I am getting a Boreas you convince me. Thanks a million for your help, I will be having a nice get together in Sector 101 with my friends the Xenos tonight !!!!!
Have a good one friends.

[brucewarren]

A Boreas can also pack 8 PPC on the back and is faster than a K, so you
can do a manouevre that involves an apparent retreat when you are
outnumbered.

It's 'apparent' because if you match speeds at the proper range when he
is chasing you it's possible to generously hand out some "Photon Pulse pie"
without having to accept any in return.

[hallegue]

Again guys you have very good points and i really appreciate your in put, just for the record I got my boreas and the command view is excellent.
Many thanks, I am going to have a nice dinner with my friends the Xenons in sector 101.

[AgamemnonArgon]

Boreas loadout for one of mine is 32 PPC, 4 CIG and 4 EBC.
If you have the money, Reputation, and can find the weapons, buy one.

[simo98]

The Boron destroyer is actually really nice.

Load her up front with 3 X 8 PPCs/IBLs/ICs and pew pew pew!

[EmperorJon]

I like to Osaka, because it's really fun to fly. Charge up your front guns and BAAM, goodbye Xenon Q in one blast.

[brattbags01]

Same here, i have one Boreas fitted out with 8 ppc front, 8 ppc back, 8 ibl right, 8 ibl left, 4 ibl up and 4 down. Just keep flying and firing also the osaka when fullt spec,d is awesome, took on Akuma destroyer, about 40 fighters and 2 yaki TL,s and my shields were hardly scratched. Dont bother with Argon or Teladi capital ships....to slow. For forward veiw then the split Python looks really cool but is under shielded and under armed and from an outside combat perspective then the Boron Ray looks easily the coolest. Needless to say i have them all

[zyriel]

Destroyers aren't meant to be fast.
The Boreas has that pricetag because it's the most overpowered M2 in the game (even after a nerfing) despite being labeled a "light" destroyer.
The Split always trade shielding for speed/firepower.

i totally disagree about Boreas being Most overpowered one
im pretty sure Osaka can kill anything faster
also Osaka has better solo survivability in any sector in the game
Osaka has:
+20% more shields
+20% better shield generator
+50% more laser energy
+16% better laser reload
+17% bigger cargobay ,
compared to Boreas
and Boreas is only +9m/s faster than Osaka

those are just numbers - but in practice Osaka is about 10 times more powerful than expected mainly beacause of how the PSP is dealing the damage
didnt bother much with the missiles on Osaka cos i didnt have the need for more power but terran missiles are wayyyyy overpowered as well
poltergeist sucks but all other missiles are just too good

[Paladin-Solo]

Destroyers aren't meant to be fast.
The Boreas has that pricetag because it's the most overpowered M2 in the game (even after a nerfing) despite being labeled a "light" destroyer.
The Split always trade shielding for speed/firepower.

i totally disagree about Boreas being Most overpowered one
im pretty sure Osaka can kill anything faster
also Osaka has better solo survivability in any sector in the game
Osaka has:
+20% more shields
+20% better shield generator
+50% more laser energy
+16% better laser reload
+17% bigger cargobay ,
compared to Boreas
and Boreas is only +9m/s faster than Osaka

those are just numbers - but in practice Osaka is about 10 times more powerful than expected mainly beacause of how the PSP is dealing the damage
didnt bother much with the missiles on Osaka cos i didnt have the need for more power but terran missiles are wayyyyy overpowered as well
poltergeist sucks but all other missiles are just too good

The Tyr is probably the best M2 in my opinion, not much can withstand a full volley from 20 PSPs, plus its the fastest M2. Most people bag on it though cause its cargo bay isn't big enough to equip all 32 PSPs but this is really only an issue if you want to use it in OOS, in which case the Osaka or Boreas are better, but for personal use nothing is better.

[zyriel]

Tyr is bit tough to get - especially in 2.5
also almost nothing can withstand full volley of 16xPSP-s too
so its almost the same with Osaka
Osaka has much better shield regeneration , bit better laser reload , bigger cargobay
and most of all really great view - prolly best M2 view in the game
therefore i still prefer Osaka

PS: i never said Osaka is the most powerful one i just said its greatly more powerful than Boreas

[AgamemnonArgon]

Good comments, but remember affordability. It can be harder to make credits on 2.5 (which I admit is good), than previous versions.
Terran ships reportedly (I don't have any) are the best fighting ships.
Owning a battlewagon isn't enough though.
For a first destroyer, I would actually go for the cheapest possible, just to get into the market !