X3TC. Dragon, Heavy Osprey, Hyperion. Thoughts?

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X3TC. Dragon, Heavy Osprey, Hyperion. Thoughts?

Post by RichardDaborn » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:22

Split Dragon & Heavy Osprey what are peoples opinions about these ships. It was my favourite in X3R XTended before I got the hyperion.

Its time for me to look for an M6 and im wondering how the above ships handle in TC.

Also can someone tell me can you dock at stations still with an m6 or has that been taken away in XT?
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Post by brattbags01 » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:34

Dragon is fast, has good cargo space but is somewhat under shielded and only has one up turret. Don't use the Heavy osprey cause I hates it (horrible forward view)
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Post by Omini » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:38

It really depends what you're looking for.

If you don't mind blind spots, then yeah the Dragon or Heavy Dragon is a good choice. But if you prefer turret coverage, then the Centaur or Nemesis (or their Heavy variants) are better.

I got bored so decided to purchase one of each type of M6 with the 5 commonwealth races, and their heavy variants. But the only ones I piloted were the Heavy Dragon and the Heavy Nemesis. Only things I really didn't like about the Heavy Dragon was its blind spots and lack of decent anti-fighter weaponry (I hate the FBL).
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Post by AgamemnonArgon » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:41

Dragon was my first X3TC M6, but the Frigate M7 Class has replaced the M6, as it was in x2, as a personal ship of choice.
I prefer the Skiron from OTAS, more a Heavier, better armed and more able Corvette, and the Heavy Centaur, a well shielded and very attractive design.
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Post by RichardDaborn » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:52

Im tempted to stick with the Dragon, its got blistering top speed and suits my style of combat which is wait for the enemy to wear itself out then go in and finish them quick. Paticularly good against other capitals wait for their shields to drop race in and claim the kill.

Can you dock at stations in an m6?.
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Post by Sarvoth » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 10:54

RichardDaborn wrote:Im tempted to stick with the Dragon, its got blistering top speed and suits my style of combat which is wait for the enemy to wear itself out then go in and finish them quick. Paticularly good against other capitals wait for their shields to drop race in and claim the kill.

Can you dock at stations in an m6?.
Yes, you can dock at stations in an M6.

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Post by Triaxx2 » Sun, 16. Jan 11, 13:41

I like the Pirate Osprey over the Heavy Osprey. Just as much turret awesomeness, better view.
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Post by solreaper » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 05:38

I pilot SpringBlossom and Hyperion.

SpringBlossom.
Due to its speed(360). It has excellent field of view. High cargo hold (2000), high weapon damage.

Limitations
It has limited weapon range and as well as weapon reach (2 klics max). Its weapon power supply is not sufficient for all 8 PShockware cannons mounted on the front.

Hyperion.
Good shields, efficient weapons power supply, highest cargo hold (3333), docks 2 fighter class ships (very suitable for ship purchase missions + personel transport missions), speed(169). Higher weapon reach (3.4 klics), good turret coverage.

Limitations
Weapon damage is lower. Could not undock a Boron shipyard without damaging the station and turning borons against you lol (its a bug! and its true lol try docking and undocking a normal fish egg type Boron shipyard)

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Post by Catra » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 05:53

Use the autopilot. It turns off collision detection long enough for the hyperion to undock unharmed.

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Post by StarSword » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 05:54

My only M6s are a Dragon and the Truelight Seeker. I gave the Dragon a full bank of PBGs up front; it incinerates fighters with ease. I use it to provide additional fire support to my Panther.
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Post by redwards » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 08:01

solreaper wrote:I pilot SpringBlossom and Hyperion.

SpringBlossom.
Due to its speed(360). It has excellent field of view. High cargo hold (2000), high weapon damage.

Limitations
It has limited weapon range and as well as weapon reach (2 klics max). Its weapon power supply is not sufficient for all 8 PShockware cannons mounted on the front.

Hyperion.
Good shields, efficient weapons power supply, highest cargo hold (3333), docks 2 fighter class ships (very suitable for ship purchase missions + personel transport missions), speed(169). Higher weapon reach (3.4 klics), good turret coverage.

Limitations
Weapon damage is lower. Could not undock a Boron shipyard without damaging the station and turning borons against you lol (its a bug! and its true lol try docking and undocking a normal fish egg type Boron shipyard)
As an aside, the Split Shipyard also docks M6s internally, and so the Hyperion has the same problem there.

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Post by Ozkar » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 08:52

solreaper wrote:
I pilot SpringBlossom and Hyperion.

SpringBlossom.
Due to its speed(360). It has excellent field of view. High cargo hold (2000), high weapon damage.

Limitations
It has limited weapon range and as well as weapon reach (2 klics max). Its weapon power supply is not sufficient for all 8 PShockware cannons mounted on the front.

Hyperion.
Good shields, efficient weapons power supply, highest cargo hold (3333), docks 2 fighter class ships (very suitable for ship purchase missions + personel transport missions), speed(169). Higher weapon reach (3.4 klics), good turret coverage.

Limitations
Weapon damage is lower. Could not undock a Boron shipyard without damaging the station and turning borons against you lol (its a bug! and its true lol try docking and undocking a normal fish egg type Boron shipyard)


As an aside, the Split Shipyard also docks M6s internally, and so the Hyperion has the same problem there.
As well as the Parand super Shipyards.

I put EBCs in my Hvy Dragon turret, ISRs up front. Its an odd turret layout for sure, but the firepower and speed make me like it better than the slow Teladi offerings. I mainly used it for assassination missions to kill the mark when he was in an M6. Kill him, and jump out, let the local police deal with his buddies :D

Springblossom with PM/AM launchers has longer range and less energy concerns.
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Post by Kor'ah » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 09:21

Dragon is really nice as a cheap stand off missile spammer, but this worked better in X3R. The Hyperion is the ultimate missile spamming M6 or M7 in X3R.

I tend to fly a Springblossem of course. Use that to shoot up M6 and below. Then have a remote controlled M8 handy to blindside M7 and above. It's nifty getting 3+ large capital ships chasing the Springblossem around, then take them all out at once by sneaking in a Hades with enough (60) tomahawks.

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Post by AgamemnonArgon » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 14:07

Heavy Dragon, don't know, I may buy one to try.
Dragon M6 is a beauty to fly, and fight but weak shields.
Centaur is a good ship as a wingman/person - Escort.
Great looking Heavy Centaur is a nice all round ship.
Nemesis is not as much fun as the X2 version but ok.
Heavy Nemesis is a nice looking design, and fights and flies well.
Heavy Osprey really unattractive ship and I prefer to buy the Osprey.
Skiron is not that attractive, but is the best of the M6 types.
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Post by SIMON POPPLEWELL » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 14:48

Well if you are going for shop bought then I'd go with a Skiron or Heavy Dragon. But the best M6 in TC is still got to be the Hyperion, but you can't buy it you have to capture one.

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Post by Shootist » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 15:37

SIMON POPPLEWELL wrote:Well if you are going for shop bought then I'd go with a Skiron or Heavy Dragon. But the best M6 in TC is still got to be the Hyperion, but you can't buy it you have to capture one.
There are three M6s in TC that are worth using as a personal ship. The HV overtuned, the Springblossom and the Vidar. Of these three, the Vidar has limited cargo capacity and is slow (128m/s). Every other M6 is lame in comparison.

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Post by SIMON POPPLEWELL » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 18:07

Shootist wrote:
SIMON POPPLEWELL wrote:Well if you are going for shop bought then I'd go with a Skiron or Heavy Dragon. But the best M6 in TC is still got to be the Hyperion, but you can't buy it you have to capture one.
There are three M6s in TC that are worth using as a personal ship. The HV overtuned, the Springblossom and the Vidar. Of these three, the Vidar has limited cargo capacity and is slow (128m/s). Every other M6 is lame in comparison.
Well you got one out of three that's OK. :wink: Also it's unlikely that the OP will be able to get any of those you mentioned as I think he's just starting out and they are all beyond his reach atm.

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Post by Venereus » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 18:11

SIMON POPPLEWELL wrote:
Shootist wrote:
SIMON POPPLEWELL wrote:Well if you are going for shop bought then I'd go with a Skiron or Heavy Dragon. But the best M6 in TC is still got to be the Hyperion, but you can't buy it you have to capture one.
There are three M6s in TC that are worth using as a personal ship. The HV overtuned, the Springblossom and the Vidar. Of these three, the Vidar has limited cargo capacity and is slow (128m/s). Every other M6 is lame in comparison.
Well you got one out of three that's OK. :wink: Also it's unlikely that the OP will be able to get any of those you mentioned as I think he's just starting out and they are all beyond his reach atm.
He'll get the Vidar for sure.

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Post by Triaxx2 » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 18:45

Meh. The HypV is okay, but the Springblossom is ugly, and like the Mistral, is best used OOS.

The Vidar is basically a space pancake.

Grab a Dragon, or a Nemesis. Both are good aggressive ships.

Osprey's are good for defensive work.

And Hydra's are good for missile work.
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Post by deca.death » Wed, 2. Mar 11, 18:58

Every M6 in a hands if skilled pilot is a deadly weapon, so from that perspective, you can't really miss much. Light variants are cheaper but heavy are stronger. Vidar is probably deadliest M6 versus capitals, but slow and not so great vs fighters. Low on cargo also. Skiron is great all around weapon platform. Somewhat slow on turn though. I would go with the dragon. PBG's in nose and burn baby burn !

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