M7 Griffon

i64man · Post by **i64man** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 16:53

I got this ship after finishing FF. What shall I do with this? Is it worth keeping it?

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 17:01

It is a good flak ship for complex, station, fleet or big ship anti-fighter duties.

Venereus · Post by **Venereus** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 17:29

i64man wrote:I got this ship after finishing FF. What shall I do with this? Is it worth keeping it?

It's an M7 with Hangars! Of course you should keep it, even if you don't find it very useful.

ObadiahtheSlim · Post by **ObadiahtheSlim** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 17:38

An M7 that flaks like a champ. I don't personally use it because I prefer my PSG equipped Deimos for the anti-fighter duty with his 6 x 1GJ shields.

Edit: fixed shield strength.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 17:41

@ ObadiahtheSlim: Your Diemos won't last long with 6 x 1MJ shields!!!

Kirlack · Post by **Kirlack** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 17:48

I'm a big fan of the Griffon, it's second only to my Shrike in terms of personal smackdown, even though it can't mount the big anti capital weapons of the Shrike. The weapons it can mount can fire all but constantly and as a player ship it can take on a pair of Qs or even a K and win with little or no real risk. Plus it handles almost like a fighter

travisdh1 · Post by **travisdh1** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 18:00

Kirlack wrote:I'm a big fan of the Griffon, it's second only to my Shrike in terms of personal smackdown, even though it can't mount the big anti capital weapons of the Shrike. The weapons it can mount can fire all but constantly and as a player ship it can take on a pair of Qs or even a K and win with little or no real risk. Plus it handles almost like a fighter

It also carries a decent size wing of fighters if you need more firepower.

cmdnenad · Post by **cmdnenad** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 19:02

I use it as an anti-fighter escort for Boreas, equipped with flaks all around and CIGs in front. A few Novas and Solanos in hangar.

TBV · Post by **TBV** » Tue, 8. Feb 11, 19:28

I've named my Griffon "I win". Says it all really. Nothing makes killing anything and everything easier in my opinion.
In fact I've had to park it and go back to a Centaur to stop the game being too easy.

Spero · Post by **Spero** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 00:38

The Griffon is the size of an M6. This makes dodging anti capital weaponry a breeze. Throw in it's hangar bays and it's M7 level shielding and weaponry, and this ship becomes a real beast.

The downside is that, while it's the size of an M6, it's much slower. Also can't dock with stations.

Overall it's a nifty little ship, complete with it's own drawbacks and advantages. It's not going to wipe fleets out alone, it's not going to carry hordes of fighters and it's definitely not winning any races, but it makes an excellent mini carrier that can hold it's own in larger slugfests, and totally decimates fighters.

garv222 · Post by **garv222** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 00:44

Isn't it also the fastest m7?

Zloth · Post by **Zloth** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 01:15

garv222 wrote:Isn't it also the fastest m7?

Nope, not by a long shot.

Callidus Thorn · Post by **Callidus Thorn** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 01:33

Sorry, but the information given on that site is wrong in nearly every area when it comes to the Griffon. Seems to be severely outdated. Either that or my version of the X models viewer is. (currently don't have the ship in game so can't check). I'm pretty much certain those figures for the Griffon are way off though

Choublanc · Post by **Choublanc** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 01:37

Yes, at least speed (101 vs 124), cargo (3500 vs 4800), shielding (3 Gj vs 4) and hangar (25 vs 9) are wrong.

That said, I see the Griffon like a weak Panther without anti-cap guns and smaller hangar.

Just good to be RE'd and forgotten, imho.

Nwah · Post by **Nwah** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 02:02

The real strength of the griffon is how dang small it is. Slap some IPGs/CIGs on it plus a load of firestorm torpedoes and you can kill just about anything with decent flying skills. I've personally stowed mine away for now until I can be bothered to build a firestorm factory.

Spaceweed Adict · Post by **Spaceweed Adict** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 02:21

Scrap it and build another Hyperion

Triaxx2 · Post by **Triaxx2** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 04:03

X3TC.ru was last updated with the 2.0 patch. It's okay now, but not nearly as good as it used to be.

garv222 · Post by **garv222** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 06:16

Just for the record.. the Griffon is 124 max speed? I could've sworn I read somewhere here it was 130+.

Choublanc · Post by **Choublanc** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 17:15

garv222 wrote:Just for the record.. the Griffon is 124 max speed? I could've sworn I read somewhere here it was 130+.

124.2 in the game's Encyclopedia. Impossible to verify directly with a Griffon, as mine is currently into pieces inside the RE Laboratory.

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Wed, 9. Feb 11, 17:38

Just rebuilt mine.

Speedo reads 124, but that might be rounded down.

Under turbo boost it reads 331.

EDIT:

Just got distracted by a Q.

Anyway, given its small size, I'm wondering if it would make a good
partner to my Sirokos for boarding ops, if I gave it an attack shields command.

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