Has anyone been brave enogh to Capp the Argon One Carrier?

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 17:53

I see It and I want it but I never stay with a game long enough to get worked up enough to try to take it.... Is this ship a goose that layed the golden egg or just a tease that is not worth the effort?

andrewas · Post by **andrewas** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:03

Its just a Titan. Or is it a colossus? I forget. Anyway, its a standard Argon M1 with a name, and last I checked it had a plot flag which made it invulnerable, but that might have been removed in one of the recent patches.

X-Tie · Post by **X-Tie** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:14

Argon One is not cappable in vanilla... But it's just a normal Argon M1, that's all... Just go and cap a roaming one, same end effect... I prefer the Yaki versions, they just sound cooler

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:15

It is boardable but ISTR that it just reverts to the standard name for that ship class once it's yours ie not Argon One

Tim

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:17

I have the glod edition and play both reunion and x3tc but I never mess with argon or terrans they are just to human... lol.... Does that apply after the plots are done? But thank you for a reply so fast. I still want it and I may try it when I am done using it for protection of my shield megaplex....

X-Tie · Post by **X-Tie** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:19

perkint wrote:It is boardable but ISTR that it just reverts to the standard name for that ship class once it's yours ie not Argon One

Tim

Really? Are you sure? Ok then. In X3:R, though, the Argon One is invulnerable if my memory is correct (once you get to the hull)

cj-spartacus · Post by **cj-spartacus** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:20

As X-Tie said, the Yaki Shuri has exactly the same stats and is the same model and it is much easier to cap.

perkint · Post by **perkint** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:25

V2.7 removed it's invulnerability. Fairly sure posts followed that release very quickly about having boarded it...

Tim

Ravna · Post by **Ravna** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:25

It can be boarded, at least in v 3.1.
I just tried and the marines went in OK.

Sadly, I kept firing torpedos instead of flails and it blew up

Needless to say, my rep went through the floor.

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:32

It does keep the name "Argon One" when you capture it but it's a bog
standard Argon M1 once you've got it. You could rename one of your
own M1s "Argon One" with less trouble.

No sign of Ban Danna and his mobile discotheque either

I wanted slaves, revenge and or the change to ransom a senior official.

All I got is a carrier with a cool name

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:39

brucewarren wrote:It does keep the name "Argon One" when you capture it but it's a bog
standard Argon M1 once you've got it. You could rename one of your
own M1s "Argon One" with less trouble.

No sign of Ban Danna and his mobile discotheque either
I wanted slaves, revenge and or the change to ransom a senior official.

All I got is a carrier with a cool name

I like the way you think but I don't guess it's worth it but heck I might name one Argon two lol

jonbuttle · Post by **jonbuttle** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 18:56

Just buy a normal colossus and rename it "Argon one" ?

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:10

Why yes argon one but I would say argon 1.5 lol

StarSword · Post by **StarSword** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:16

X-Tie wrote:Argon One is not cappable in vanilla... But it's just a normal Argon M1, that's all... Just go and cap a roaming one, same end effect... I prefer the Yaki versions, they just sound cooler

Actually, Argon One is not a standard Colossus, but rather a Colossus Hauler (at least according to X3wiki). According to eng.x3tc.ru, it's probably just as well that Argon One is invincible: it has half the hull strength of a standard Colossus, half the shield regen, and (if it makes a difference) uses six 1-gig shields instead of three 2-gigs.

brucewarren · Post by **brucewarren** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:37

I'm afraid those websites are simply wrong.

I boarded the Argon One. It's currently sitting at a shipyard at the
moment because I haven't decided what to do with it.

Comparing it's stats to those for a colossus show them to be identical

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:43

The TC Argon One is exactly a standard Colossus and is not invulnerable since a patch, the Mad Hawk is also a standard Colossus but is probably still invulnerable - although I don't know for sure.

StarSword is comparing the X3R Colossus/Argon One with a TC Colossus.

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:53

There is a colossus Hauler in the scripts Does that ship show up to be capped or is that the Argon one in terran conflict.

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 19:58

There is no Colossus Hauler in the vanilla TC ship type files. Heaven knows what is in 3rd Party stuff. The TC Argon One is a standard Colossus, as I said above.

buddysmith30 · Post by **buddysmith30** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 20:13

Alan Phipps wrote:There is no Colossus Hauler in the vanilla TC ship type files. Heaven knows what is in 3rd Party stuff. The TC Argon One is a standard Colossus, as I said above.

Ok I think that I know what you are saying. You are saying that we will never find one floating around in space to cap. However I have had put the code in the name area to write scripts on the other games I have played. There is a choice to create one. I Never download 3rd party stuff and I did however download only the patches for the game to update my gold edition game from the box. Not to sound slow witted but due I understand what you are saying?

Post by **Alan Phipps** » Mon, 7. Mar 11, 20:50

There is no Colossus Hauler in the vanilla game, but there is one present though unused in the vanilla ship type files (there are several ship types unused in vanilla held in those files). If you are going to script in your own ships, then you can use what is there but unused or name them and specify them as you wish. One benefit of using Colossus Hauler as a new ship type name is that you can script Betty to say all of that that name by chosing the correct sound-bite(s) from the existing speech-file. I think I have answered your question now.

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Has anyone been brave enogh to Capp the Argon One Carrier?

Has anyone been brave enogh to Capp the Argon One Carrier?