Error In The X:rebirth Trailer!!!
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Error In The X:rebirth Trailer!!!
Anyone else notice that the darkside of the planet cuts to the starfield before the planet forms a sphere?
Egosoft, you may have a problem
http://www.after-domination.net/ADGloba ... _BG_01.jpg
Egosoft, you may have a problem
http://www.after-domination.net/ADGloba ... _BG_01.jpg
That planet is clearly emerging from a wormhole whose event horizon is surrounded by black swirling gaseous dark matter.
Anyway.. X3 also has a ton of problems with layering planets, starfields and nebulas correctly, for some reason. Or doing proper atmosphere layering when two planets with one intersect. Over time, you just start to ignore those things ^^
Anyway.. X3 also has a ton of problems with layering planets, starfields and nebulas correctly, for some reason. Or doing proper atmosphere layering when two planets with one intersect. Over time, you just start to ignore those things ^^
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It's not abut the nebula, it's about stars shining through the nebula where by all rights the dark side of the planet should be
It's perfectly fine if the dark side of planet can't be seen, but stars from background should still be blocked by it - that's the problem.
As for quality - it's a still from a youtube vid, after all - so obviously not the hi-def original frame one would expect.
(drawn a circle around the planet, see for yourself that stars are inside it, quite deep even - left-hand arrow)
http://www.abload.de/img/ktrspnv.png
It's perfectly fine if the dark side of planet can't be seen, but stars from background should still be blocked by it - that's the problem.
As for quality - it's a still from a youtube vid, after all - so obviously not the hi-def original frame one would expect.
(drawn a circle around the planet, see for yourself that stars are inside it, quite deep even - left-hand arrow)
http://www.abload.de/img/ktrspnv.png
Last edited by X2-Eliah on Tue, 10. May 11, 12:14, edited 1 time in total.
Skeeter, I know you like to be critical, but one image with an error in it and a few things you don't like and you want the artists replaced? I hope your boss is more forgiving!
Edit: Typo.
Edit: Typo.
Last edited by CBJ on Tue, 10. May 11, 14:49, edited 1 time in total.
Lol CBJ. Well you have to admit the x games have never really done decent nebulas before compared to say freespace 2 excellent nebula level.
I have always found the lighting and nebulas in the x games lacking as with most of the effects for weapons and hit effects. And tbh it would be nice if they tried a new approach. So ok im sry i was a bit harsh in my judgement of the image and effects but it would be nice if the style and quality changed a bit as it is suppose to be a new engine i thought the lighting and effects would be a bit better in screenshots (not just the above) by now.
Besides its good to complain now and then it might encourage new things for all i know. But i hope u can see where i come from, as a avid player of x2 and xT and Xbtf but not so much of the x3 series i do crave new stuff from egosoft not just redone stuff. Which ok rebirth it might be, but visually i still see alot of the same stuff from what i have seen in screenies and videos so far especially visual wise.
Is it so wrong to want change, especially away from the x universe especially, i mean, is ES only capable now of basing any game in future in the X universe? I know its popular but only new comers really appreciate the new games well from my view it is but old timers surely must be getting bored of it by now?
Bah im just rambling. Sry. Im sure the gameplay will be a nice change from what i know. Just wish the visuals were radically changed from what we have seen from past x games and from my eyes it doesnt look different at all from x3/x3tc visual style.
I have always found the lighting and nebulas in the x games lacking as with most of the effects for weapons and hit effects. And tbh it would be nice if they tried a new approach. So ok im sry i was a bit harsh in my judgement of the image and effects but it would be nice if the style and quality changed a bit as it is suppose to be a new engine i thought the lighting and effects would be a bit better in screenshots (not just the above) by now.
Besides its good to complain now and then it might encourage new things for all i know. But i hope u can see where i come from, as a avid player of x2 and xT and Xbtf but not so much of the x3 series i do crave new stuff from egosoft not just redone stuff. Which ok rebirth it might be, but visually i still see alot of the same stuff from what i have seen in screenies and videos so far especially visual wise.
Is it so wrong to want change, especially away from the x universe especially, i mean, is ES only capable now of basing any game in future in the X universe? I know its popular but only new comers really appreciate the new games well from my view it is but old timers surely must be getting bored of it by now?
Bah im just rambling. Sry. Im sure the gameplay will be a nice change from what i know. Just wish the visuals were radically changed from what we have seen from past x games and from my eyes it doesnt look different at all from x3/x3tc visual style.
Now that is really funny that pic when u drew the circle. It looks like there is no planet and the curvy of the planet now looks just like nebula part of the other nebula stuff its freaky that the curve can look like a planet one pic and nebula just in the other.X2-Eliah wrote:It's not abut the nebula, it's about stars shining through the nebula where by all rights the dark side of the planet should be
It's perfectly fine if the dark side of planet can't be seen, but stars from background should still be blocked by it - that's the problem.
As for quality - it's a still from a youtube vid, after all - so obviously not the hi-def original frame one would expect.
(drawn a circle around the planet, see for yourself that stars are inside it, quite deep even - left-hand arrow)
http://www.abload.de/img/ktrspnv.png
lol. tech support early adopter i see.
Raise a ticket! demand that they fix this to the next patch!
Raise a ticket! demand that they fix this to the next patch!
X3:TC Heavy M6 guide : : : Let's pretend you are an addict, lets pretend that you are a X-games player... but i am repeating myself here.
Considering the great ship designs that EgoSoft has in X3 R or TC I think the artists should keep their jobs. tbh I am glad that they spent more time on ships/stations than background. And I am sure with the resources that they have, Egosoft has to prioritize somethings over others.
Funny thing with Freespace 1/2 nebula, they were just .bmps that were stretched and overlapped until a nice final nebula effect was created. The background was always the same black, with a random amount of stars. The nebula they added in Freespace 2 were totally different, andwhile I liked flyingin them from time to time, they were a bit tiring to spend longer periods of time in.
Now if they had nebulous clouds floating about in sectors that could hide whatever was in them (crates, asteroids, ships, ambushes) that would be cool, kind of like the dust clouds in Homeworld 2 maps.
As far as the X-verse goes... well, its a good place, and I am glad that they choose to keep rebirth located there. Let another company step up and make a sandbox space rpg. Honestly I hope one does, because imho, competition breeds innovation, and I know EgoSoft can be quite innovative.
Funny thing with Freespace 1/2 nebula, they were just .bmps that were stretched and overlapped until a nice final nebula effect was created. The background was always the same black, with a random amount of stars. The nebula they added in Freespace 2 were totally different, andwhile I liked flyingin them from time to time, they were a bit tiring to spend longer periods of time in.
Now if they had nebulous clouds floating about in sectors that could hide whatever was in them (crates, asteroids, ships, ambushes) that would be cool, kind of like the dust clouds in Homeworld 2 maps.
As far as the X-verse goes... well, its a good place, and I am glad that they choose to keep rebirth located there. Let another company step up and make a sandbox space rpg. Honestly I hope one does, because imho, competition breeds innovation, and I know EgoSoft can be quite innovative.
Give me a mamba or give me death!
I think the planet is supposed to be that way, as in something radical happened or is happening to it. The effect is more pronounced when the logos appear. Perhaps something to do with the supernova.
I'm just not going to immediately attribute it to poor graphics, which to me seems to be a way of saying they were lazy and couldn't be bothered to do things right. Besides, I'm of the belief that the planets are physical objects, not composite background images.
To me, the visuals are radically different. There is much finer detail, dynamic shadows, and there doesn't seem to be that metallic sheen on everything. The flame effect on the station looks much better than the plasma bust generators. There are blinking lights on ships and stations, as well as spotlights. There are moving signs and arrows that aren't just videos on billboards. The lines of ships don't look like anything I saw in X3. The gates are now 3D as opposed to a 2D event horizon. There is also the new effect on ships when traveling through whatever it is they fast travel through.
And yes, I got all that from the 40 seconds of footage and 4 screen shots.
-Forloren
I'm just not going to immediately attribute it to poor graphics, which to me seems to be a way of saying they were lazy and couldn't be bothered to do things right. Besides, I'm of the belief that the planets are physical objects, not composite background images.
To me, the visuals are radically different. There is much finer detail, dynamic shadows, and there doesn't seem to be that metallic sheen on everything. The flame effect on the station looks much better than the plasma bust generators. There are blinking lights on ships and stations, as well as spotlights. There are moving signs and arrows that aren't just videos on billboards. The lines of ships don't look like anything I saw in X3. The gates are now 3D as opposed to a 2D event horizon. There is also the new effect on ships when traveling through whatever it is they fast travel through.
And yes, I got all that from the 40 seconds of footage and 4 screen shots.
-Forloren