New Terran plot where you can get the highest ATF rank and access to ATF Cap ships

STL_fpagsc · Post by **STL_fpagsc** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 15:55

At the moment, the highest ATF rank the player can achieve is "Earth Access".

I really hope Egosoft will make one more path with a plot where player would work with ATF and command and plan operations. At the end the player would get "Command Access" rank and ability to produce all ATF ships and stations (blueprints for PHQ or special sector with stations).

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kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 15:57

The fact that you have to capture ATF ships sucks for role-playing purposes but it is highly unlikely that we see another patch before TNBT.

handy388 · Post by **handy388** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 16:20

Who doesn't want to buy the earth torous from a ship yard?

Deadbeat_Spinn · Post by **Deadbeat_Spinn** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 16:47

You can get an ATF rank higher than Earth Access and it's been like that for some time, it's in one of the other plots.

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 18:34

Frankly, at this stage of things I'd rather Egosoft spent their time on X-Rebirth than on adding yet another patch to a game that's nearly three years old! If you want ATF ships, you can mod them in easily enough.

Hubert99 · Post by **Hubert99** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 18:58

God forbid new plots. They are not the strenght of this game, imo. Anyway, because so many ways are there to play in the sand, plots have been extremly hard to complete; too many possibly unexpected scenarios. THus, the main plots now are bug free and safe to finish, if you read a bit up about them. A new plot would bring many aches, and those would take yeras to be sorted out, and safe to embark on. No more plots.
Just let it go.

I want a Rebirth.

Eisenkalle · Post by **Eisenkalle** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 19:01

I would prefer access to the left out terran stations (Ice mining/water purification etc.) from the Aldrin Missions. Rather than buying ships you can easily "obtain" (boarding/BoP-Plot!) yourself.

Lbano · Post by **Lbano** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 20:00

I think X3:TC is finished with the newest patches and there are tonns of mods (including ATF gamestart and ATF ships to buy) to play it a bit differently if the vanilla is not good enough.

STL_fpagsc · Post by **STL_fpagsc** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 20:06

Here's my simple solution in this case:
Operation Final Fury 2 where you fight agains a super enemy fleet and so need to have a huge force to be with you.
2 new sectors, one enemy sector and one ATF sector. The enemy sector is for battle and the ATF sector for ATF stations and command.
Thus no need to write any complex plots, just a few messages with instructions and 2 new sectors ( =2 simple backgrounds).

Such a simple thing would not take much resources for development and very, very unlikely would cause bugs.

STL_fpagsc · Post by **STL_fpagsc** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 20:08

Eisenkalle wrote:Rather than buying ships you can easily "obtain" (boarding/BoP-Plot!) yourself.

But I really like my good ATF reputation... and wanna have them as friends in my universe.

Eisenkalle · Post by **Eisenkalle** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 20:15

STL_fpagsc wrote:
Eisenkalle wrote:Rather than buying ships you can easily "obtain" (boarding/BoP-Plot!) yourself.
But I really like my good ATF reputation... and wanna have them as friends in my universe.

Your AFT rank will never drop (it is just a "ticket" for access to systems/planets). No matter how many ATF you destroy, it will never drop. Only your terran rank will drop, if hostile actions are performed in terran space.

In my lastest game my first boarding with an M7M was a "lost" Tyr in Heretics End with its escort (3 Skrinir). I have no regrets and am totally shameless! Nobody can sue me there. Hrhrhr.

TTD · Post by **TTD** » Thu, 2. Jun 11, 21:45

I think that the last word on any patches for TC was in the form of an unsigned patch made available in the latest news letter. re- OOS Combat.

But yes,as stated above,there are some good mods and scripts in s/m forum.
I can put the Torus anywhere I want,if I like,or give the ATF a fleet of Qs to defend TUS 1.

Just a couple of possibilities.

Just take a look at the many scripts etc that are available in that forum.

eldyranx3 · Post by **eldyranx3** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 16:32

Since no one outright provided a link, check my signature. You can also learn Mission Director / Script Editor code and do all sorts of nifty things if you feel something is lacking.

Although, we already have three or four plots dedicated to the Terrans. Do you really need more?

TTD · Post by **TTD** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 21:54

Actually that is one of the mods I will be investigating for my current game story.
Not added it to the list of mods/scripts yet,but stay tuned.I have a lot of work to do before I get there.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0

deca.death · Post by **deca.death** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 22:20

STL_fpagsc wrote:
Such a simple thing would not take much resources for development and very, very unlikely would cause bugs.

Do you think ES takes requests or wishes like some local wedding band? Basically, you don't need patch, you need mod. And with mod you have some chances getting what you want, unlike with patch who clearly will never happen, and frankly, I don't see why it should.

STL_fpagsc · Post by **STL_fpagsc** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 22:50

deca.death wrote:and frankly, I don't see why it should.

A patch wouldn't cause the "modified" tag in your sevegame the stats of which can be uploaded on this website

Usually mods negatively change the game balance. And there's more quality when things are done by developer.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 23:37

STL_fpagsc wrote:A patch wouldn't cause the "modified" tag in your sevegame the stats of which can be uploaded on this website
Usually mods negatively change the game balance. And there's more quality when things are done by developer.

Disagree, disagree, and disagree.
1. I'd say it is a fair choice: do you want "stats" or do you want ATF's love?
2. "Balance" is subjective, but mods aim to "make it better", not worse.
3. I bet the modders can focus better on what they do than the devs.

@handy388: Players have already built "torus" around some tiny pebble in Aldrin.

ancienthighway · Post by **ancienthighway** » Fri, 3. Jun 11, 23:43

I would assume that the bulk of Egosoft's staff is focused on Rebirth right now. That's the way it should be. I'd rather see the staff busy developing and testing Rebirth that be diverted back to creating a patch adding more plots that aren't needed. I would imagine the things we would most like to see fixed, like autopilot, SETA, collision avoidance, can't be fixed on the X3:TC engine. Rebirth with it's brand new engine holds the promise to have better of each.

While there are some mods that unbalance the game in a severe manner, there are plenty out there that just take some of the busy work out of the game.

You want new plots? Then I challenge you as a software engineer to develop some. One of the great things about this game is that you can modify it to meet your play style.

Sn4kemaster · Post by **Sn4kemaster** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 02:13

STL_fpagsc wrote:
deca.death wrote:and frankly, I don't see why it should.
A patch wouldn't cause the "modified" tag in your sevegame the stats of which can be uploaded on this website
Usually mods negatively change the game balance. And there's more quality when things are done by developer.

Who flippin cares about stats really!

I think you need to look at the mods before you actually make a comment...I played Vaniila X3R and X3TC for 5 years (under a different name) before i went modified 7 months ago, and now I and now wish I had done it several years before!

Just head over to the dark side and download either the Terran Revitilsation Project to simply get the ATF ships you want and little more, or the SRM if you want to see what X3TC should have been like from Egosoft....it will give you everything you want and far far more!

X3TC is finished and their will NEVER be anymore patches........

eldyranx3 · Post by **eldyranx3** » Sat, 4. Jun 11, 04:59

Sn4kemaster wrote:X3TC is finished and their will NEVER be anymore patches........

Well, unlikely there will be any content patches. X2 received a feature patch 1.5 long after 1.4.

New Terran plot where you can get the highest ATF rank and access to ATF Cap ships

I want such patch!

New Terran plot where you can get the highest ATF rank and access to ATF Cap ships