New SETA exploit?

[StarSword]

I'm building a complex in Oort Cloud, which involves towing a lot of mines. I recently installed a Turbo Booster Mk2 on my Panther, so I punch the trigger on my joystick, then add SETA for good measure.

The turbo countdown stops in its tracks, as does the energy cell consumption.

Apparently, you can use SETA to maintain turbo indefinitely. Now if only you could turbo while towing...

[navetta]

doesnt work for me, but it seems to last a bit longer. what % seta are you using anyways?

[rwhiteruff]

I've had this happen to me once, but I haven't been able to replicate it. Which is a shame, because I would've liked to have used that during the OFF final mission in my slow-boat Boreas.

n.b. I don't have a joystick hooked up. I play with mouse & keyboard.

[StarSword]

doesnt work for me, but it seems to last a bit longer. what % seta are you using anyways?

10x.

My suspicion is that it's another oddity of X3 being so CPU-intensive in the late game.

[navetta]

oh by the way in the title you said "new seta exploit", so what are the older ones?

the only seta exploit i know of is when it causes turret scripts to hang allowing you to recharge shields... extremely unfair

[StarSword]

oh by the way in the title you said "new seta exploit", so what are the older ones?

the only seta exploit i know of is when it causes turret scripts to hang allowing you to recharge shields... extremely unfair

There's that one, and there's sitting in a secluded area of a sector and turning on SETA to earn oodles of cash in a relatively short RL timespan.

Those are the two (now three) I know of.

[brucewarren]

Better spoiler this just in case

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There's a very useful couple when boarding.
With Seta on my drones don't fire and targets shields
rebuild.

Also sometimes it stops pods getting shot down. Not sure about
this though so I wouldn't rely on it.

I know that's an exploit but

"All's fair in love, war and boarding operations"

[Rhox]

I don't think it's such a secret, so I undid the Spoiler:

Allso sometimes it stops pods getting shot down. Not sure about
this though so I wouldn't rely on it.

I know that's an exploit but

"All's fair in love, war and boarding operations"

I guess that it most definetely stops the destruction of pods (as well as missilies and torpedoes by the way) as SETA stops the turrets of a ship while running (which has also already been mentioned above).

best regards,
Rhox

[Alan Phipps]

While IS, lure an enemy capital fleet (especially if also engaged with drones) into the middle of a bunch of asteroids and/or rocks that break when hit then press SETA x10. Watch the collisions as the fleet flounders about!

[Infekted]

I often turbo/SETA. I get normal behaviour, and have not seen anything like what has been described.

[Gazz]

It's not much of an exploit, really, because it's very situational.

When your CPU is working like a champ, you will never be able to "exploit" much that way.

It will always be somewhat easier to get missiles through defensive laser fire because SETA means lower FPS and that means that the missiles and laser bullets make larger steps inbetween frames.
There's a good chance they will both step over the collision point, never being in it.

The "real" exploit of completely shutting down turrets is a sign of an overworked CPU.
When X3 is running short on CPU cycles it randomly freezes 2 script instructions. Attack run and turn turret to target.
That means that the scripts of fighters and turrets randomly lock up. With vanilla turret scripts anyway.

[Rhox]

The "real" exploit of completely shutting down turrets is a sign of an overworked CPU.
When X3 is running short on CPU cycles it randomly freezes 2 script instructions. Attack run and turn turret to target.
That means that the scripts of fighters and turrets randomly lock up. With vanilla turret scripts anyway.

In the german forum, it was often advised that one should use SETA when trying to get boarding pods or torpedoes through to a ship as the turrets will stop firing under SETA. I don't know anymore whether it was said that the turrets shut completely or just stop firing, but I definetely know it works...
But how can TC still be that ressource-consuming?

best regards,

Rhox

[navetta]

In the german forum, it was often advised that one should use SETA when trying to get boarding pods or torpedoes through to a ship as the turrets will stop firing under SETA. I don't know anymore whether it was said that the turrets shut completely or just stop firing, but I definetely know it works...
But how can TC still be that ressource-consuming?

best regards,

Rhox

because the game engine dates back to X:BTF

[Gazz]

Well, it does sometimes work.
I just explained why. =P

[Rhox]

Well, it does sometimes work.
I just explained why. =P

I only say it works for me every time I try.

best regards,
Rhox

[SkullCowboy]

There is always the "Seta in your space suit to repair big ships" trick. Kinda exploity...

[fairywhipper]

It's not much of an exploit, really, because it's very situational.

When your CPU is working like a champ, you will never be able to "exploit" much that way.

It will always be somewhat easier to get missiles through defensive laser fire because SETA means lower FPS and that means that the missiles and laser bullets make larger steps inbetween frames.
There's a good chance they will both step over the collision point, never being in it.

The "real" exploit of completely shutting down turrets is a sign of an overworked CPU.
When X3 is running short on CPU cycles it randomly freezes 2 script instructions. Attack run and turn turret to target.
That means that the scripts of fighters and turrets randomly lock up. With vanilla turret scripts anyway.

darn, you learn something new each day, so i should slow my cpu down slightly while launching pods.... lol

[kurush]

Better spoiler this just in case

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There's a very useful couple when boarding.
With Seta on my drones don't fire and targets shields
rebuild.

Also sometimes it stops pods getting shot down. Not sure about
this though so I wouldn't rely on it.

I know that's an exploit but

"All's fair in love, war and boarding operations"

Dude, upgrade your CPU I had all kind of issues with seta on my old CPU. Now on i7 I have all turrets firing and all ships/drones flying when on SETA...

[Cycrow]

The "real" exploit of completely shutting down turrets is a sign of an overworked CPU.
When X3 is running short on CPU cycles it randomly freezes 2 script instructions. Attack run and turn turret to target.
That means that the scripts of fighters and turrets randomly lock up. With vanilla turret scripts anyway.

In the german forum, it was often advised that one should use SETA when trying to get boarding pods or torpedoes through to a ship as the turrets will stop firing under SETA. I don't know anymore whether it was said that the turrets shut completely or just stop firing, but I definetely know it works...
But how can TC still be that ressource-consuming?

best regards,

Rhox

the simple answer is that because the game is doing alot. Alot more than most other games need to do.

also, the fact that the game runs on a single core, means it can make full use of the latest hardware.

SETA just makes the problem worse, and it requires the game to update much quicker than normal, meaning it uses more resources than it would otherwise

[DrATty]

There is always the "Seta in your space suit to repair big ships" trick. Kinda exploity...

This is my favourite exploit. I'll spoiler the method for anyone that hasn't seen it before.

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You drop the SETA device from your ship (from the freight menu), eject, then fly into the canister that is now floating in space with your space suit. You can then use the repair laser and SETA at the same time. The device disappears when you enter a ship again so it's obviously best to do this somewhere where you can buy SETA. Alternatively, have a TM standing by to take the donor ship until it can be re-equipped.

I don't really see this as a cheat. It just avoids the tedious wait when repairing in real-time, and the usual loss of standing occurs just as when using SETA to 'make money' anyway.