[SOLVED] [AP] Computer Chips, SpaceWeed and Spacefuel

Relicalchaos · Post by **Relicalchaos** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 03:31

I haven't honestly tabled with those complexes at all. This question is aimed towards the players who have HUGE complexes- Not the basic 5!. I plan on building a huge complex of each one.. Just curious if its possible to Flood the market at all? The word on the streets; Computer chips sell like hot cakes, Teladi Love there Spaceweed, and who doesn't like spacefuel in there coffee.. But I'm nervous to spend about 500M+ on something that's destined to fail.

Opinions?

Firepower01 · Post by **Firepower01** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 03:44

From what I understand the Teladi will blow up your complex if you have a Space Weed/Fuel factory in their space

ToastOperator · Post by **ToastOperator** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 03:48

Weed is never saturated, had built a Weedplex near lots of pirate bases and teladi sectors. Stacked about 30 Bliss Place L but no saturation. Wanted to place more in future but then I finally got a Xenon L to bail and finished the plot. Now i havent quite a motivation to play AP. Per Stock Exchange you get rich very fast and then after the plot there is not much more to do than is already in TC.

@FirePower

No they dont. I placed my complex hub directly beneath a teladi orbital weapons platform.

Probe1 · Post by **Probe1** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 03:52

My entire empire is based on spaceweed complexes. The TLDR of it is there's just no stopping the weed market. I have 63 operational, continually producing Bliss Place Ls. They're always turning over products to eager consumers.

They're all priced at one credit under average. Exactly one credit. When I put the last two complexes online I initially dropped it down to 2900 per unit. I don't know if it was to tickle the universes interest or for a role playing thing but it drew customers and within one or two cycles I reset the price to 1 credit under average

Seizewell- 9 Bliss Place L plex (100% sold out all the time. Never takes longer than one cycle to sell all products)

Ianamus Zura- 18 Bliss Place L plex (100% sold out all the time. Takes one or two cycles but it always sells out to 0)

Tears of Greed- 27 Bliss Place L plex (I've never seen it sell completely out of product. It peaks out at around 4000/11070 products before a huge sale of 2000 space weed goes down and I make 5 million on the spot. Wee. Most orders are either 2-5 units or 500ish units. Again, it never maxes its storage but it doesn't immediately sell out the second it produces like Ianamus or Seizewell. Note: I wasn't going to build it but I was floating around in Tears of Greed and thought, "Wouldn't it be funny if I built another Weedplex and it was so large that it bankrupted me HERE? I think I'll do it just to honor the sector name". Instead it's paid for itself and running in green)

Shareholders Fortune- 36 Bliss Place L plex (Work in progress.. probably not going to end well I added the Pirate Guild 3 mod into my game and I don't think I can transport the silicon I need safely enough...)

Don't ask me how much money it took to start it up and how many additional stations and how many tubes how many godawful tubes. I don't want to think about it.
Edit:Teladi do not attack Space Weed plants.. I'm not too sure about other races transversing Teladi sectors but the Teladi will not.

Relicalchaos · Post by **Relicalchaos** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 04:39

Thanks for all your responses. I appreciate it.

I guess this is a sign to start those spaceweed complexes.

Probe1 · Post by **Probe1** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 04:59

I had a shower and thought about it I'm tearing down my 36 strong hub before I invest any more. There's not enough silicon for energy cells and it was a silly idea.

Anyway here's what I look for when placing a spaceweed hub.

Do other races patrol the sector? It's not going to be Bad Debt or Ministry of Finance initially looked like a sector I wanted to develop until I saw a Paranid Deimos running through. I don't know if they'll target my plants in Teladi space but I don't want to risk a 200 million credit investment on an assumption.
Xenon migration path? Yeah, Scale Plate-Grand Exchange-Eighteen Billion those are right out the door. No thanks.
Teladi sectors on all sides?
Is there already a Bliss Place in sector or in an adjacent one? How many? How many are you planning on building? I haven't reached a saturated market yet after 63 running factories but I have no interest in losing profit because of laziness.
Do I like the sector? hehe. What can I say, I hate nebula sectors. I don't want to go flying through a damn cloud messing with my visibility and I don't want to put my factories in one either.

Anyway those are the thoughts (at the front of my mind) that go through my head when I place a Weedplex. Honestly you can't go wrong in Seizewell or Ianamus Zura. There are at least 4 other sectors that make perfectly safe places to run your drug trade.

garv222 · Post by **garv222** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 05:38

My favorite place to put a space weed/fuel complex has always been hatikvah's faith. It has easy access to paranid, argon teladi and split space. Friendly races will not blow it up since it's not illegal there. The xenon 2 sectors away don't seem too active. The downside would be needing to be on friendly terms with pirates so every passing ship doesn't take a shot at your assets.

I suppose it's also a good spot to run illegal goods scanning missions in all the bordering sectors as well. I'll have to try that once I get my complex in full swing now.

A5PECT · Post by **A5PECT** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 05:44

Hatikvah's was my favorite home sector in TC.

Pirates weren't that much of a problem, a Cerberus or two with corvette escorts could handle any fighter group that rolled through. The only problems were M7/M2/M1s, but those were pretty rare.

If I were playing AP I could have put down a SEWN satellite to call out any pirate capitals entering the sector. That definitely would have saved me a lot of trouble.

ToastOperator · Post by **ToastOperator** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 05:46

My favorite sector is Ceos Doubt. Complex stuff in the rear area and hub directly under the weapons platform.
Below are the pirate sectors with lots asteroids loo manck straats legacy and moo kyes revenge

( OT @KloHunter: Is your Nick half german? Why is the raised hoove of the pony in your avatar cut in such a way that one could interpret it the wrong way? )

Abraxis86 · Post by **Abraxis86** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 07:38

In my last game, I built a complex of 2 L Dream farms and 2 L Bliss Places in Ceos Doubt (Teladi). Unless I jacked the price way up I couldn't keep any in stock. No need to distribute them myself.

The complex hub was regularly filled with 6-7 race transports and civilian ships seemingly camping out buying it right off the production line.

ToastOperator wrote:( OT @KloHunter: Is your Nick half german? Why is the raised hoove of the pony in your avatar cut in such a way that one could interpret it the wrong way? )

How is a pony with her hoof raised more suspect than the guy with the SS avatar above?

Gazz · Post by **Gazz** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 07:53

Abraxis86 wrote:How is a pony with her hoof raised more suspect than the guy with the SS avatar above?

The SS is a known (if historic) organisation.

Pink ponies are strange alien beings and humans fear the unknown!

Firepower01 wrote:From what I understand the Teladi will blow up your complex if you have a Space Weed/Fuel factory in their space

Weeeell, the teladi law enforcement has a... shall we say relaxed attitude towards illegal items.
Or pirates.

Relicalchaos · Post by **Relicalchaos** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 07:58

Yeah, it truly is a pain to find a good balance between silicone wafers and energy, when considering a closed, spaceweed complex.

Also a bit off topic;
I know of allot of good areas, where I can toss together allot of awesome Closed loop complex, however, allot are paranid. And because I started my game as Bankrupt assassin, paranid just love picking on my uts and other ships OOS . I even had one of there laser towers blow up a small m3 the other day when I was OOS. but what doesn't make any sense is, I can fly right next to the the laser, and it won't fire on me.

Does all this exactly mean, because I'm argon, I can't build any complexes in there sectors (excluding War sectors)?

I know technically, Argon is at war with paranid, but I don't seem to understand is, why you can't just be a renegade.

Relicalchaos · Post by **Relicalchaos** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 08:16

Gazz wrote:
Abraxis86 wrote:How is a pony with her hoof raised more suspect than the guy with the SS avatar above?
The SS is a known (if historic) organisation.

Pink ponies are strange alien beings and humans fear the unknown!

Firepower01 wrote:From what I understand the Teladi will blow up your complex if you have a Space Weed/Fuel factory in their space
Weeeell, the teladi law enforcement has a... shall we say relaxed attitude towards illegal items.
Or pirates.

Its my Clan Symbol. If anyone interprets it as derogatory, then I will gladly change my avatar.

Gazz · Post by **Gazz** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 08:23

*shrug*
That was the better part of a century ago.
Makes one wonder, though, why your clan choses a symbol so thoroughly connected to atrocities and oppression.

Abraxis86 · Post by **Abraxis86** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 08:39

Relicalchaos wrote:Its my Clan Symbol. If anyone interprets it as derogatory, then I will gladly change my avatar.

Gazz wrote:*shrug*
That was the better part of a century ago.
Makes one wonder, though, why your clan choses a symbol so thoroughly connected to atrocities and oppression.

It was actually mine way back in the day for Medal of Honor Allied Assault as well. We often played as the Axis and the SS were the elite.

I'm not offended either, just seemed odd for the *purple* Twilight to be accused of Nazi sympathy before the SS guy.

ToastOperator · Post by **ToastOperator** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 09:34

THA HELL?

EDIT:
Although I am german I did not recognize the SS like avatar. Im too much internet so to me it was: Just random shapes with no particular reason.

Ripskar · Post by **Ripskar** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 11:18

Gazz wrote:
Firepower01 wrote:From what I understand the Teladi will blow up your complex if you have a Space Weed/Fuel factory in their space
Weeeell, the teladi law enforcement has a... shall we say relaxed attitude towards illegal items.
Or pirates.

Teladi Law enforcement video

Silverblade The Enchanter

Hatikvah's faith is definately my fave spot, set north, away form pirates/wanderers who'll get blown up usually by the passing military

regarding silicon

well, why not start a small, closed loop in Hatikvah's

then either add in later, more CAG piloted ships and a bunch of booze/weed factories and eveyrhting short of energy production, pilots get resources elsehwere of course

and/or

set up energy production units in AKeela's Beacon (most efficient output, creates E Cells about 3 times faster than normal)
CAG or CLS pilots supply your weed/booze plex

or, set up factories in suitably supporting sectors for loops (but that don't have traffic alas for good sales), but then ferry the weed/booze TO your hatikvah's plex where it cna be eaisly sold

I do all

never can keep in enough stock!! I will mong the Universe!
Pacification by stupification

(and "mong" in my area = "stoned", hehe)

Probe1 · Post by **Probe1** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 12:38

Honestly I just buy the energy cells for most of it. The costs and work for a closed loop solar plant complex not to mention it meaning only ideal systems where silicon is abundant makes it irksome. I have some systems devoted solely to energy production and shipping to my other sectors and its so meh.

Better to pay a third of your profit in energy cells than deal with the hassle I say.

The whole nazi thing is lol. nobody noticed it because it wasn't intended. there's a catering company near my house that's called Klassic Katering (tacky ok sure) and on their sign there's a 3rd K above the rest. Nobody mentions the KKK when they go there.

Maxumous · Post by **Maxumous** » Sat, 28. Jan 12, 12:39

Firepower01 wrote:From what I understand the Teladi will blow up your complex if you have a Space Weed/Fuel factory in their space

I've had spaceweed in Profit Share for a extremely long time now ,it might be where I put the complex . Not in the way off Traffic !
Or Even OOS. Think of you as a Pirate, Because it is classed as Illegal goods.Trust me they Come to your base and Trade with you.

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[SOLVED] [AP] Computer Chips, SpaceWeed and Spacefuel

[SOLVED] [AP] Computer Chips, SpaceWeed and Spacefuel