[X3TC] Loaner ships - missions, pirates, etc

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[X3TC] Loaner ships - missions, pirates, etc

Post by donzi » Tue, 31. Jul 12, 18:49

I notice that while tryng to explot the extra fire power (in commonwealth at least) of the trio of rapier I have been given control of, mission givers consider the rapier kills as foreign. Same for just ratting, no rep or Cr for the rapier kill shots.

Is this due to them being loaners specifically? (didn't buy or claim them)

..or perhaps indirectly due to some other player owned specific detail like ST/UT pilot not in the ship?

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Post by Carlo the Curious » Tue, 31. Jul 12, 19:01

You should get rep and mission credit for kills by ships that you own, but you won't get combat rank.

iirc there's one set of rapiers they just give, but there's another mission where you're just patrolling with some allied ships.

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Post by donzi » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 02:06

I'm referring to the 3 rapier 'drones' I think the terran mission giver referred to them as. They are full rapier ships.

Sort of a prompt to learn about wings.

I can't recall if these are for keeps or not. Thinking they are not. The 1 rapier that they give very early in the terran plot is for certain mine.

Nonetheless, I get nothing AFAIK from the 3 rapier. Never any Cr bounty, hence not rep. Even to the point of a mission giver stating someone else killed the target and no reward was given when I am sure the rapier(s) had the kill shot.

I was just using the harrier and IRE to taunt, lure and such while inflicting what damage I could w/o letting the 2MJ shield collapse.

Hmm. Wonder if it's happening only on kill missions where I never land a shot personally... Maybe that is the key factor -- in addition to the suspected 'loaner' factor.

Will check that out.

I know my own fleet ships which I bought or claimed work as expected.

I could be mistaken but and fairly certain they are not representatives of my efforts. I've done maybe 8-10 missions spanning some 6-8 sectors with the rapier and only when I parked them on standby was I rewarded as expected.

Still not done with them. I've switched from missions to just ratting for the missle drops to sell. Finally back up to ~100k Cr again. Woot! hehe

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Post by Coreblimey » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 05:26

The Rapiers, all 4 of 'em, are yours permanently. When I received the 3, I put them in a wing and ordered them to dock at the trading station in Heretics End. After the mission was over, I stripped them of weapons and ordered them back to the Mars shipyard and sold them. :)
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Post by Ulan Dhor » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 07:03

Coreblimey wrote:The Rapiers, all 4 of 'em, are yours permanently. When I received the 3, I put them in a wing and ordered them to dock at the trading station in Heretics End. After the mission was over, I stripped them of weapons and ordered them back to the Mars shipyard and sold them. :)
I used them to park on weapon production stations to prevent deletion until I needed said weapons.

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Post by Morkonan » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 07:10

I used them to discover the problems that AI pathfinding has in Terran space and its station's large hit-boxes, especially when you give the order "Follow me."

As a result, I only ended up with one of them. :)

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Post by TTD » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 08:02

I tend to strip them all,sell three and RE the remainder.

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Post by donzi » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 20:48

Ulan Dhor wrote:I used them to park on weapon production stations to prevent deletion until I needed said weapons.
Prevent deletion?

Unsure what you're referring to as being deleted.

Since I can't remember, and I've not played this latest version I guess that I'll go with what Coreblimey said with some precautions.

My initial thought was, the rewarded single rapier is bare hull. These 3 upgraded and equipped rapier -must- be loaners.. Or it's expected that you'll have them all blown up during scabbard escort.

Basically I am trying to use their help for as long as I can, yet strip them before they get revoked.. if that happens. ;-)

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Post by TTD » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 20:54

donzi wrote:
Ulan Dhor wrote:I used them to park on weapon production stations to prevent deletion until I needed said weapons.
Prevent deletion?

Unsure what you're referring to as being deleted.
He refers to the GoD wiping out stations that do not trade enough.

If you park a cheap M5 or such like,this usually,but not always (according to some pilots),prevents the said station from being deleted.

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Post by donzi » Wed, 1. Aug 12, 21:14

Hmm. Interesting.

Might be a good test for another concern I was wondering about here.

Many consider GoD evil and all. This perhaps is a testament to the contrary. :-)

UPDATE: well, as I was told earlier in the thread the 3 rapier are NOT on loan as I was thinking. I still do find it a little odd that the single 'reward' rapier is bare hull while (actually pretty soon after) later getting 3 well equipped rapier.

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