X3 AP - Capturing M3 Argon Ship Mission Plot ?

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Arialth
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X3 AP - Capturing M3 Argon Ship Mission Plot ?

Post by Arialth » Sat, 1. Jun 13, 13:10

Any ideea how and what ship to use ? I have Split , ATF and Terran Rank 8th so i can buy ships but i do not know what tactis and where to make one to bail... :( .
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Post by Arialth » Thu, 6. Jun 13, 14:34

Now i use the ATF M7M and i have a Warrior rank but the m3's still not bail :( what to do :(?
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Post by ajax34i » Thu, 6. Jun 13, 14:57

M3's bail when you shoot them with another M3. You don't need M7M or marines, that is for big capital ships.

Get your own M3, hopefully one that can use PBE or PRG. Those weapons do lots of shield damage, and very little hull damage. Pick a target Argon M3, shoot the shields off to 0%, then continue into hull with a weapon that does little damage (PBE, PRG, or IRE).

The chance to bail is when the Argon is between 87% hull and 20% hull, and it depends on your fight rank too, and is pretty low. You may have to kill a few before one will bail.
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Post by biohazard15 » Thu, 6. Jun 13, 15:32

You may also capture a Pirate modification (Nova, Nova Raider, Eclipse). They are easy to find in "Pirate Alley" and in assassination\station defense missions, and they bail more often than "genuine" Argons.
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Post by Arialth » Sun, 9. Jun 13, 12:46

No succes here guys :( what M3 do you suggest as i;m red with Argon.. i tought about Teladi Falcon Hauler (M3) but dont know what wepons to instal... i'm noob at fitting a ship.
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Post by Sabrina Bergin » Sun, 9. Jun 13, 13:23

I use a katana with empc's.

if you do a lot of defend station missions in teladi space they will bail more often than true argon ships I got three in one mission.
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Post by bizbag » Mon, 10. Jun 13, 04:33

Arialth wrote:No succes here guys :( what M3 do you suggest as i;m red with Argon.. i tought about Teladi Falcon Hauler (M3) but dont know what wepons to instal... i'm noob at fitting a ship.
That won't work, since the Falcon is a Teladi ship. You must use a Nova, Eclipse, Notus or Venti. Pirate variants count, but the Blastclaw does not. The point of this mission is to emulate the Xenon L requirement of the commonwealth plot. Granted, this one is significantly easier, as Argon bail more easily and you can buy them secondhand, but you cannot but them retail.
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Post by Dezonus » Wed, 26. Jun 13, 04:14

I just got that mission, and just capped one in my Springblossom. What I noticed is this: Military Pilots almost never bail, same with Escort Pilots. However, there's a bunch of "Argon Freight Transporter" or similar names flying M3s that seem to be far more keen to bail. One shot from my 4 frontal SSCs and he's like "Don't Shoot! I'm leaving my ship"

On a Side note...why the hell would you use a Nova as a freighter?
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Post by bizbag » Wed, 26. Jun 13, 20:55

Dezonus wrote:I just got that mission, and just capped one in my Springblossom. What I noticed is this: Military Pilots almost never bail, same with Escort Pilots. However, there's a bunch of "Argon Freight Transporter" or similar names flying M3s that seem to be far more keen to bail. One shot from my 4 frontal SSCs and he's like "Don't Shoot! I'm leaving my ship"

On a Side note...why the hell would you use a Nova as a freighter?
Because it was sitting in your hangar and collecting dust? The various people in the X Universe are nothing if not capitalistic; if you somehow acquired a Nova secondhand or inherited it or whatever, why not put it to work?
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Post by NO-mans-Land » Sun, 22. Sep 13, 10:54

THE M3 FIGHT IS VERY HANDY TO USE TO SELL THE WEAPONS THAT YOUR FATORYS MAKE BECAUSE IT IS FAST AND THEY AND CAN SURVIVE THE BEING SHOT AT :)
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Post by Nehlis » Tue, 24. Sep 13, 06:54

For some reason in my game I can't seem to get anyone to bail using the PBEs but when fighting the xenon in Grand Exchange there seems to be a ridiculously high bail rate... When using a Plasma Burst Generator. Of course the L, N, or M turns blue just as its getting scorched into oblivion. Maybe if you do large amounts of damage at one time it gives a higher chance when doing a bail check?
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Post by delstars » Tue, 24. Sep 13, 07:19

I'd just like to clear up what was said here, someone mentioned that you have to use another M3 to get another M3 to bail, that isn't quite true. You can make any fighter bail with any ship, you just have to put fear into them. That being said an M3 would be one of the "Ideal" ships to use as they have enough firepower to drop shields, but not instantly kill your target. M6's work really well if your fighting groups of enemies, you have a bit more time to play with each target in the group and can non eligible ships faster, in theory.

I realise that the mixup was probably just how the words are put together, I'm just making sure the OP doesn't get the wrong idea.
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