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There is NO reinforced metal plating.

Post by Joleoo » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 22:12

I am sorry if somebody has already mentioned this, but all the Google links relating to X Rebirth problems are now purple, and I still am no closer to a cure.

Before you reply please note that I have read about and watched the videos explaining how to get the material.

The problem I'm having is that there simply aren't any Hull-Tech Freighters carrying the goods.

None. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

Not a single freighter in the entire universe is carrying Reinforced Metal Plating.

Not in Forge-Welded Mail. Not in Shady Vault. Nor in Liquid Metal.

It is as though the entire universe has decided that Reinforced Metal Plating is unnecessary and completely done away with it.


In my first playthough I didn't have this problem. I went to Forge-Welded Mail and found half a dozen Hull-Tech Freighters lined up waiting for their wares to be loaded. I waited for one to separate from the pack before ambushing and capturing it. I had to abandon that save because of a save-file error causing the game to crash upon loading, so I started again.

Since then, however; I've not seen a single Hull-Tech Freighter carrying the rare commodity in about 4 different plays-through, both Free Play and Campaign.

In one save all of the freighters were bugged docking to stations, but that is no longer the issue.

Is this an economic issue? Is there anything I can do? Constructive answers will be well received!

Cheers,

Joleoo

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Post by Kor'ah » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 22:39

I'm in the same boat. On the bright side I've captured several fully loaded weapon freighters. The DHA shipyard isn't going to be hurting for weapons for a long time...until a single PMC fighter finds those container ships that it.
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Post by Thufar » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 22:42

I must admit, I haven't tried this... but this thought has two parts:

Part 1: I recall reading (and have seen) where destroyed capital ships drop crages of stuff. You have to have a freighter wth the right drones to pick them up (not sure, but I think it's surface miners - but could be wrong).

Part 2: I read somewhere that hacker (?) drones cause storage facilities to drop their cargo because the hack makes them think they are about to explode.

Has anyone thought to try to scan storage facilities at the Reinf. Metal Plate factories to see what's in the storage containers and, if plates are in them, hack them and pick up their dumped crates?

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Post by dbcohen » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 23:13

the actual issue is that they sell quickly. scan the whole station then check how much time is left for production. unfortunately they never hit 0% unless you destroy or capture your competition's ships.

edit: this is a perfect opportunity for a station to be built for massive profits btw

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Post by Mopy » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 23:20

Bear in mind since 1.18, they don't sit there like you see in the 1.17 tutorials. They buy then start boosting to their destinations now. It makes the hull-techs harder to find.
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Post by FinWiz » Mon, 2. Dec 13, 23:50

I found two in straining coppice or whaterver it is. I belive that issue is with broken economy, ships being stuck to stations and conscrution shops being unable to make more. 1.18 fixed it for me.

And true, hacking does make them sometimes to drop their cargo, at least with ships. Weren't however able to pick thos crates up to see what was in them because I were boarding that hull-tech-freighter at the same time(which failed and I loaded back to before attacking).
How can you say there is no game under the bugs when bugs so far have prevented us from fully playing it.

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Post by Scoob » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 02:46

Well, I'm glad it's not just me struggling to find any! I was quite relishing the challenge of snagging a ship under PMC's nose, however, I've been playing for several hours and NOTHING. It's a little frustrating.

I'd hoped that hanging around in the places that sell the stuff might let me nab a freighter, but no. None of the Hull-Tech freighters are carrying it.

I'll keep looking, but this isn't really fun any more.

Scoob.

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Post by Kor'ah » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 02:59

Don't be shy about pirating neutrals. Do a few missions to pad the rep then scarf a freighter from them.
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Post by barlier » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 13:49

Yeah i give up, i'm not new to the x univers games, played them all.
Capping ships is not an issue, i have more than 150M in cash currently, capped 5+ taranis from PMC, something like 10 other freighters etc, but i'm tired, i've honestly raomed around ascendency for something over 14h in the past 4 days and there isn't a sigle ship carrying "reinforced metal plating", can't find any even after 5 hours on 1.18, so that's it.
Resigned myself to edit my save game just to be able to go and start building my stations and move forward in the plot.
Good luck all.

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Post by Twelvepak1 » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 15:26

My first station is still under construction. All wares, including the refined metal, have been received, with the exception of Fusion Reactors. I'm still 26 short on those, out of 200+. Wonder what they need so many reactors for in a Foodstuffs factory?

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Post by LastChime » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 15:30

Twelvepak1 wrote:My first station is still under construction. All wares, including the refined metal, have been received, with the exception of Fusion Reactors. I'm still 26 short on those, out of 200+. Wonder what they need so many reactors for in a Foodstuffs factory?
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Post by Dodgey » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 17:28

Same problem here. Still searching.... now camped outside the producer in Forge Welded waiting for someone to collect...

Don't blame you for editing your save. I've resigned to doing it to get PMC back to some reasonable level at some stage as I'm thoroughly ticked off with getting told off for "unprovoked attacks"....

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Post by csaba » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 17:38

If you're OOS ships are not animated so they are not actually at a station. After you enter a Sector you need to wait a little till they arrive.

There are several ways to approach this problem.

1st is to fly to the provider theres Serpentine and Straining Coppice also a 3rd one somewhere.

2nd is to fly to the Jump Beacon at Ascendancy and wait for the ships arrive in sector to drop of at the consuming shipyard. This should work better as the ecenomy is running.

3rd If the consuming stations are full of stuff then it's not a dumb thing to look for the other jump beacons as ships without orders tend to stockpile there.

4th Also in Straining Coppice there is a Ledda station (Arms tech Fab?) that sells the plating so you only need to send someone to pick up. But better escort this ship as: It might get stuck and PMC might wanna get rid of it. (In 1.18 I've seen a Taranis boost into a zone going straight for my freighter totally ignoring me.)

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Post by Dodgey » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 20:46

Groovy - still can't find any but still trying.

p.s. what does a jump beacon look like?

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Post by csaba » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 21:02

Dodgey wrote:Groovy - still can't find any but still trying.

p.s. what does a jump beacon look like?
Like a big barrel with some antennas on it. It's usually in the middle zone of a sector.

Lookout Alpha/Wrecksville
Inner World/Cuspid splint
Ascendancy/Burried Treasure --> this is the best one as the shipyard is in the sector
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Post by Dodgey » Tue, 3. Dec 13, 21:22

Thanks - I'll look out for them

Still finding plenty of hull-tech freighters but always no metal. Just Podklets, and plasma flow regs.

Been at thsi for 2 days now (well, two whole evenings). The fun is almost diminished, that and being constantly ******* pestered by PMC and then chastised for unprovoked attacks. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

btw - LI dont' sell them in Straining C, they buy them

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Post by Vampirspiegelei » Wed, 4. Dec 13, 14:25

Yes I have heard about the Tip that Arms Tech Fabs sell Reinforced Metal Plating because the ingame encyclopedia says so.
Yet I do wonder why a station would buy AND sell the same merchandise at the same time.
I just think that this is a mistake in the Encyclopedia.
The only statins I've seen selling Reinforced Metal Plates are Construction Shops.
Both existing ones are in PMC control.
And yes almost no Hull-Tech Freighters carry Reinforced Metal Plates. I got lucky yesterday and found one that had 824! Still missing 336 though... and that is only for stage one.

Had the idea of building a SCODA and just build my own Construction Shop... unfortunately the Shipyard in DeVries is also out of Metal Plates.
Well that little captured stockpile will hopefully be enough to build a Construction Vessel... and I really do hope NPCs will be trading with it if it's in Albion!

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Post by LastChime » Wed, 4. Dec 13, 14:31

Albion runs out of stock eventually, there are no universal traders, and hence no source of narcotics.....even in free play after the first 24 hours you pretty much have to juice up the construction shop yourself.

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Post by Dodgey » Wed, 4. Dec 13, 14:39

I've had enough. Three days now. That's not fun.

Time to cheat and change to friendly with PMC. It would not be so bad inspecting every fab to see where the plating is/needed, but you constantly get attacked by the PMC which makes me want to throw my PC out the window!

This is bloody ridiculous. I hate cheating but 3 days of just bloody flying about inspecting ships. No thanks.

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Post by SieurNewT » Wed, 4. Dec 13, 14:55

Yes not only the way the things works give very long time lost on running to find theses metals, but then if the economy is just broken and you discover you have 0 metal in all the ships ...

will have to wait a full traders fix, then an economy fix in order to have a small chance to get theses stuffs ... i wonder how people finish the plot without cheating, as theses metals are needed for the URV and ships
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