There is NO reinforced metal plating.

XstaticPilot · Post by **XstaticPilot** » Fri, 20. Dec 13, 14:54

This guy here says some things that might help you:

Tips on URV Station and getting the materials

Enigmius1 · Post by **Enigmius1** » Sat, 28. Dec 13, 07:16

malolotja wrote:So I checked again and again. It seems the only way to obtain the plating is indeed by pirating ships. How they obtain the plating themselves... no idea.

Every station with a plate foundry module is only buying the wares. Never selling, regardless of their stock situation. I provided them with all the primary resources to produce the plating. Still buying. Only thing left for me now is to wait until the plating stock is fully saturated. Let's see what happens then.

I would really love to hear from the devs if this was intended or if it is a known problem. This would save me some precious time.

This might seem insultingly obvious, but are you aware that stations buy and sell wares at different locations on the station?

spacepirate71 · Post by **spacepirate71** » Sat, 28. Dec 13, 08:24

A PMC factory loop. Ore in storage.

Kadaas · Post by **Kadaas** » Sat, 28. Dec 13, 21:32

Gruug

does your architect have funds ? I had an occasion where it wouldn't start building because it didn't have funds ,which made no sense because I supplied the materials .

Gruug · Post by **Gruug** » Mon, 30. Dec 13, 06:20

Gruug wrote:
malolotja wrote:So I checked again and again. It seems the only way to obtain the plating is indeed by pirating ships. How they obtain the plating themselves... no idea.

Every station with a plate foundry module is only buying the wares. Never selling, regardless of their stock situation. I provided them with all the primary resources to produce the plating. Still buying. Only thing left for me now is to wait until the plating stock is fully saturated. Let's see what happens then.

I would really love to hear from the devs if this was intended or if it is a known problem. This would save me some precious time.
The only place it is made in PMC space to my knowledge (and we are talking during the campaign not free play) is Forged Mail. And, if it is the campaign you are talking about, you should never be able to trade with them. Forged Mail does in fact make the stuff as I have caught at least one freighter leaving there. I tried to pinch it but it didn't have enough fuel cells to make a single jump and died from enemy fire. I actually found a full freighter with plenty of fuel cells and plate in the sector one over, Shady Vault.

I am not sure if you are talking about the non-campaign or not here. As far as I know, all discussion above has been regarding campaign available plate.

Also, noting that you say they only "purchase" plates seems to indicate you are at the wrong location....assuming they are selling just "plate" and not "reinforced plate". You need the reinforced not just plain old plate for building stations (and other things).

malolotja · Post by **malolotja** » Mon, 30. Dec 13, 17:16

Gruug wrote: Also, noting that you say they only "purchase" plates seems to indicate you are at the wrong location....assuming they are selling just "plate" and not "reinforced plate". You need the reinforced not just plain old plate for building stations (and other things).

No, I am pretty confident, that I was looking in the right place. I was actually examining the construction details in the XML files. The assigned macros for the OL Mil Hi-Tech Dept. stations definitely show they only buy the "reinforcedmetalplating" ware.
This might be an oversight on ES part or - what I am hoping - they have a routine to change the macro as soon as enough wares are available. But I doubt it. The station has enough raw materials to produce the reinforced plating. But they still buy small amounts of it.

Gruug · Post by **Gruug** » Mon, 30. Dec 13, 18:10

Kadaas wrote:Gruug

does your architect have funds ? I had an occasion where it wouldn't start building because it didn't have funds ,which made no sense because I supplied the materials .

No, architect had funds. What I found was that the order to build is placed and the station construction starts, you need to provide all material to get it to finish. I think I was missing one component once I got all the r. plate. Once I provided that missing component the station finished (that stage) just fine. I think there is a order in which it attempts to construct so you might see the superstructure first when you start the process followed by say the gun emplacements and so on and so on. I really don't explore any of the files to see how it works as I would rather figure it out within the game.

piep · Post by **piep** » Tue, 31. Dec 13, 04:16

your best bet would be to get ridiculous amounts of rmp before you go through the gate to devris and stockpile it. Before you go through the gate, you can have positive rep with PMC just like with any other faction. You can even speed this up by consturcting your own construction shop (in albion).

the other "quick" option I've used, is to start building random station in Albion in late game (meaning PMC = enemy), only to bait firendly freighters to load their cargo full with PMC rmp and bring them to my station's sector. You will notice, that many food freighters (mainly WF faction) with fusion reactors and rmp in their cargo will park somewhere nearby screaming to get captured. (hint: this strategy should be used after checking out the PMC construction shop in forged mail. The station should have big amounts [~25k]of rmp or it won't be worth yet)

Fenhris · Post by **Fenhris** » Wed, 1. Jan 14, 13:03

Not sure anyone have posted something similar, but still, here is a little suggestion for getting mats.

Park near a Refuel station and be patient. Ships jump/fly in and out, and sooner or later a ship is bound to get in there with the mats you need.

I found that "Rising Solitude" from Ledda Industries (I think it was Ledda anyway) had plenty of materials for station building. When you capture them they will show you their actual type which is a Scaldis.
The scaldis are quite good for hauling goods in friendly space as they can load quite a bit, and seem to have bays for different cargotypes.

Avoid unfriendly space though, they are fairly weak, and have almost no weapons.
They are very easy to catch, I never loose any marines (ok, admitted, full marine, 6 elites, and 24 vets, rest normal), but still, I dont even have to think about helping them underway.

Note that when you catch it, the station might start firing on it, so make sure you catch it out of the stations reach.
They usually go to the station, dock there (actually seem to be supplying the station with something, but havnt quite figuered what). Wait until they have undocked with the station and just let your self get dragged out of the stations reach and start the boarding.
When you board avoid damage to it as much as possible, your engineer will fix the engines very quickly and you can get it out of there.
A Warden carrier (Either light or Heavy Sul) may enter the area and move towards your precious ship. I usually just boost towards the warden, destroy its engines, and sit between the engines (nicely safe from turrets and drones) and blast it to bits before it reaches my captured ship.
Well, I captured some of them, they are not the best warships, but they are not so bad either

Once I have captured the ship btw, I dock with it, put engineer, captain and defence officer on it, and tell it to go sell the stuff to my URV forge.
Once it is repaired (fairly quick if you dont damage it to much, I once managed to capture one with 95% hull), it will boost its way to the gate, fly thorugh it to Devries and be safe. I stay on it until it reaches the zone with my URV Forge, it jumps there much faster than I would fly myself.

Scorpionscs · Post by **Scorpionscs** » Fri, 3. Jan 14, 04:09

I have spent about 25 hours in search of the Rare Metal LOL

If you fly into a sector go to sector map or hit the period key to go to it faster

There you will see every ship in the sector. From that you can see details of the ships cargo faster

Not only Hull Tec freighter have reinforced Metal , I have found it on maintenance freighter and High Tec freighter have it also.

jump in and out of the highway before and after the sectors you may see one in-between a sector also.. that is the best way I can help you with that.

Scorpionscs Good Luck

Shadey64 · Post by **Shadey64** » Wed, 17. Dec 14, 13:49

I actually found this way less painless to do in 3.0, my method was to take my captured Taranis over to the PMC shipyard in Shady Vault and blow the crap out of every Targon Tracer on the station with it, a few missile bombing runs in the skunk removed all station defences that would've bothered me. Hacked its storage bay and used my Rahanas on cargo collect mode to snag the reinforced metal and fusion reactors it dropped. Took maybe half an hour to pull off, be sure to hack the storage that holds the resources you're after of course.

EDIT/TL;DR:
Steal it from a shipyard or other station that has it stockpiled for production.

I chose the PMC station as to not lose rep with any of the others, though it'd be much easier to pull off on one of them especially if you do the on-station hacking and etc.

Malankatank · Post by **Malankatank** » Wed, 17. Dec 14, 22:36

Put away the necronomicon please.

Shadey64 · Post by **Shadey64** » Wed, 17. Dec 14, 22:58

Its the top hit on google for the search and the view count is jumping since 3.0s release, just attempting to help those that would've wound up here.

Malankatank · Post by **Malankatank** » Thu, 18. Dec 14, 02:42

True as that may be the mechanics of the game have changed. If they had questions they should ask in the forums though.

Goliathmk2 · Post by **Goliathmk2** » Thu, 18. Dec 14, 03:23

I've found that the easiest way to get the Reinforced Metal is to go to Forged Welded Mail in Ascendancy and check the Freighters around there, if there aren't any check the Construction shop for it, if there is some then all you need to do is dock at the Ledda Industrial Station next to it open up the Construction Shops Info on Reinforced Metal and wait, read a book or something, then when you see that someone has bought the Reinforced Metal leave the station and hunt them down.

Hardcard · Post by **Hardcard** » Sat, 20. Dec 14, 01:39

Joleoo wrote: None. Nada. Zilch. Zip.

Joleoo

Not sure about the other two, but "nada" is incorrect here.
"Nada" is Spanish for "nothing", not for "none". Spanish for "none" is "ninguno" (masculine) or "ninguna" (feminine).

Sorry guys, I couldn't resist,

Now, regarding reinforced metal plating, what you must do is build a factory that produces it, like I did. Now I produce so much of it that I can give it away (not really, it's too profitable for that). I built the factory in Wavy Haze and it's making me rich (I get 7 million credits every time that station trades with the ai).
Yep, sure, you need RMP in order to build anything, I know, but with only 1000 units of it you can get your factory started, you just need to know which modules to build first.
I remember a time when I was desperate to find RMP like most of you guys. I remember visiting Forged Welded Mail like Goliathmk2 suggested, but I also visited other sectors. The trick I learned (pretty obvious, if you ask me) was to follow the ships that bought RMP to their original factories, like some kind of detective, if you will. This was harder than it seems since finding out where those ai ships were coming from required exploring neighboring sectors in order to establish their trade routes. You need to remember the name of the captain or the exact number of wares that ship is carrying and then try to find the ship after it jumps/boosts away. It's a load/save trial and error kind of thing.
This way I knew who was buying the stuff. So instead of patrolling RMP producing zones, I started patrolling RMP buying zones. Guess what?
I found freighters carrying RMP this way that I wouldn't have found any other way.
Also, if you get sick of looking for those freighters and decide that the RMP scarcity issue is just a design flaw, you can always use this mod > http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... earchtext=
It adds just the factory you need (Third Duke, that's in Ascendancy, Albion. The factory belongs to Ledda Industial, I think.).
If you ask me, this isn't a cheat, this mod just solves a design problem of the game. Anyway, even if you use the mod, you need to be smart about it. You need the money to buy RMP (which is expensive) and you also need to keep in mind that the reserves of that factory will run out, eventually. So build yourselves a nice RMP factory with the little RMP you can get and problem solved.

Janitor of Argon 1 · Post by **Janitor of Argon 1** » Wed, 24. Dec 14, 02:09

Sure this is too a way to get around this Problem, but its not what makes a game fun.
There still many Mission Design Problems an Bugs in Story Missions and that in a Game that hat Version number 3.0 !!!
The Escorte Mission for the Freighter in Omicron Lyre for example is damm buggy. Frighter flys into things, Frighter drops out of Tradelane without reson, Frighter stops and do nothing anymore just standing still or flys back all the way to the start. Or it ignores tradelanes and fly through empty space with a speed that would take years to arrive.
And thats only ONE mission.
I like the game but those things make me angry

Snafu_X3 · Post by **Snafu_X3** » Wed, 24. Dec 14, 02:19

Janitor, how many mods are you using?

I've no problem with escort missions (other than the time they take & the concentration required) except with the autopilot when

a) the target is near a station (eg the end of the mission)
b) autopilot drops out of highway 64K Km away from target.

rolltidemustang · Post by **rolltidemustang** » Sat, 10. Jan 15, 03:48

It seems we need a topic just for this only RMP & RF only.
I would be mad to long play & nothing. Now since 3.10 has anything changed? You can not buy RMP correct? You can not buy FR correct? (NO MOD INSTALLED) Not what I see I mapped the entire system as in the campaign not finished. I have not been in Omicorn Lyre stuck on URV Forge. I see 2 RMP that buy it. I assume I must be there to capture a ship to get any. The reactors is a bigger issue to me I see no sell or buy. I have no clue where to start any ideas or should I use a MOD for less stress lol? If any MODS give the url please. I read this quote ty_cho "You are not required to complete the station for the plot to advance, you just have to start construction, and the plot will continue. Later in the plot you gain access to a whole new cluster where you will be able to get the resources you need to complete the station. Now is he talking about Omicorn Lyre? He said New Resources now is that RMP & RF or something else?

theManx · Post by **theManx** » Tue, 12. Sep 17, 20:42

Doesn't appear to work anymore as of version 4.21

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There is NO reinforced metal plating.

Fenhris

Finding ships with Reinforced metal

Re: There is NO reinforced metal plating.

Reinforced Metal Plating & Fusion Reactors.