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think griffon can load 2 flaks rear an bottomLea Flamma wrote:Hi there.
As usuall I come here for your help
So I just got this shiny new ship and from what I saw in his info tab, it will be my home for some time.
So I was wondering if you could help me with some weapons loadout.
I was thinking about this:
Main: 4xCIG
Front: 4xIPG or CIG
Rear: 1xFAA
Top: 2xFAA
Bottom: 1xFAA
Missile:
Typhoon (to compensate the lack of Anti-M2/1 potential)
Mosquito (for missile defence)
Hangar:
9xEclipse (8xPAC, 1xPRG, 1xPRG)
What do you think? Viable?
After having forgotten it for a while after the FF Plot, I recently remembered it, and now I don't wanna quit it anymore... 
I have my personal Fighters docked, when I need to get into one, a Nova Raider and an Advanced Pirate Eclipse, one Advanced Discoverer if I need something fast to explore. Then I have 6 Solanos docked if ever I need remote fighter support, but that's rarely the case. While being fairly fast and maneuverable for an M7, it feels like flying a M6, it can take on anything up to a M7 with ease without missiles. Mine is fittet out like this:
http://www.egosoft.com/support/faq/faq_ ... answer=941Tasogie wrote:you know, having played EVE Online for 7 years you would think I had acrinyms down pat... But I have no idea what you guys are talking about.... Can we use names of weapons please for those of us who are newbe stupids
I disagree. The important number here is how much energy you use per point of damage done, and that number is the same whether you're using 1, 4, or 100 FAA. Therefore all that happens if you use fewer guns is that you spend twice as long firing them to destroy the same target, using the same amount of energy while doing so--OK, the ship's weapon banks will charge a bit more due to the longer delay, but the Griffon has energy to spare, and once a full bank of FAA or CFA gets firing, anything smaller than M7 just melts away pretty darned quickly. I had a full-FLAK loadout on my Griffon and I was never short of weapons energy, even when doing the #deca plot mission!DrBullwinkle wrote:@Lea: Your loadout is perfect.
FAA's consume a lot of energy; it is often better to use less than a full loadout, as you did. Nice work there.
That is common advice on this forum, but my in-game experience shows that the issue is more complex, which is why I said what I did.pjknibbs wrote: The important number here is how much energy you use per point of damage done
I would agree there--I would certainly never use a Griffon in an anti-capital role because I don't think it's really designed for that, so how well it does in that situation isn't important to me. Therefore I set it up as an anti-fighter platform. (Note that you can fix the problem of flaks shooting at capital ships by selecting the appropriate turret command).DrBullwinkle wrote: YMMV, of course. Some of it depends on how (and who) you fight.
u can design ur own turret comand for flaks, which only kills targets up to m6, nothing bigger!pjknibbs wrote:I would agree there--I would certainly never use a Griffon in an anti-capital role because I don't think it's really designed for that, so how well it does in that situation isn't important to me. Therefore I set it up as an anti-fighter platform. (Note that you can fix the problem of flaks shooting at capital ships by selecting the appropriate turret command).DrBullwinkle wrote: YMMV, of course. Some of it depends on how (and who) you fight.
would prefer a bunch of hcps^^Lea Flamma wrote:I set the turrets to attack smaller targets. M6 and rising are dealt with either missiles or Main guns.
So what kind of escort ships do you propose? Two vidars is ok? 10 M/AML up front? Or something else would be prefared? Vidar has a good stearing so I gues it's a viable choice for AI escort.
I never had any issue with energy usage on my Griffon neither. My Turrets have a full Flak loadout and are set to Attack Fighters only, unless I want them to help me when attacking bigger ships. Also, when attacking i.e. a M7 with continuous fire from my main guns only, fully loaded with CIGs, the energy never drains below 98%. So even when using all guns at once, energy was never an issue so far for me in my Griffon...pjknibbs wrote:I disagree. The important number here is how much energy you use per point of damage done, and that number is the same whether you're using 1, 4, or 100 FAA. Therefore all that happens if you use fewer guns is that you spend twice as long firing them to destroy the same target, using the same amount of energy while doing so--OK, the ship's weapon banks will charge a bit more due to the longer delay, but the Griffon has energy to spare, and once a full bank of FAA or CFA gets firing, anything smaller than M7 just melts away pretty darned quickly. I had a full-FLAK loadout on my Griffon and I was never short of weapons energy, even when doing the #deca plot mission!DrBullwinkle wrote:@Lea: Your loadout is perfect.
FAA's consume a lot of energy; it is often better to use less than a full loadout, as you did. Nice work there.
Did you use Left/Right turret as anit-fighter FAA or as a support for main batteries?mtlmaks wrote:I never had any issue with energy usage on my Griffon neither. My Turrets have a full Flak loadout and are set to Attack Fighters only, unless I want them to help me when attacking bigger ships. Also, when attacking i.e. a M7 with continuous fire from my main guns only, fully loaded with CIGs, the energy never drains below 98%. So even when using all guns at once, energy was never an issue so far for me in my Griffon...pjknibbs wrote:I disagree. The important number here is how much energy you use per point of damage done, and that number is the same whether you're using 1, 4, or 100 FAA. Therefore all that happens if you use fewer guns is that you spend twice as long firing them to destroy the same target, using the same amount of energy while doing so--OK, the ship's weapon banks will charge a bit more due to the longer delay, but the Griffon has energy to spare, and once a full bank of FAA or CFA gets firing, anything smaller than M7 just melts away pretty darned quickly. I had a full-FLAK loadout on my Griffon and I was never short of weapons energy, even when doing the #deca plot mission!DrBullwinkle wrote:@Lea: Your loadout is perfect.
FAA's consume a lot of energy; it is often better to use less than a full loadout, as you did. Nice work there.
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