Help me by the choice of my M6 Playership

[MoNsTaZ]

Hello everybody!
I know, there are already some Posts about M6.
But I looked at a lot of them and really can´t take a choice.
I want my M6 to stay long at my side, it should be a really good allrounder...

It should me able to:
-Do some general Missions like patrol missions
-speed isn´t that important but I thinkt speed should be at least at 150m/s


>Cargo space isn´t so important (up to 500 is really enough, I don´t want to trade with the ship )

It also should fit at my playstyle... I am playing a M4 Elite right now. So I am used to direct aiming. I also use my backturret, but only for rocketdefense

I thought of the Skiron, the Dragon and the Centaur.
Probably I am testing all of them, but can you maybe help me?

Sincerly
MoNsTaZ

Ps: sry If my english is very ugly, I´m still lerning it at school

[Sinxar]

What game are you playing?

Since using the main battery is very important for you, here is my suggestions.

The Hyperion Vanguard is a no brainer here. Excellent speed, epic fire power and very good turning ability. Huge selection of missiles, insane shielding, coupled with the huge freight bay and the ability to carry 2x fighters it is pretty much the king of M6s.

Another option is the ATF Vidar. It has a very good turn rate and packs quite a punch and can withstand some punishment.

The Springblossom is very fast with good turning ability. Also has the advantage of having a giant cargo bay.

[MoNsTaZ]

Oh yes, I forgot to say: I am playing X3 Terran Conflict

[Kelvhan Amaratharr]

I also vouch for the Hyperion Vanguard - by far the most versatile ship in the X-verse.

For missions where speed is critical, the Springblossom is a very good choice but I often end up crashing into something due to a lck of piloting skill.

The Vidar has a good firepower but not enough cargo space for my taste.

I also like the Heavy Hydra but Boron ships tend to be a little difficult to manoevre due to their shape.

Just try some and pick the one that suits you best. Good luck!

[MoNsTaZ]

ok, eine frage bleibt mir dann noch: die vidar muss ich kapern... kommt des im terraner plot dann von alleine oder muss man die selbst kapern?

*sry false language

one question remaining: where can I capture the vidar?
It is said I can do this in the terran plot?!

[TTD]

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one question remaining: where can I capture the vidar?
It is said I can do this in the terran plot?![/quote]

You get the Vidar in plot.
There is a chance for another in plot ,iirc.
But later you may be able to buy one when 2nd terran plot (Aldran Expansion) is complete.
again,iirc

Else you can buy them in X3 Albion Prelude.

[jlehtone]

One Vidar only in TC; from plot one way or an another. None on sale.

You have to play some plot to get the Vidar or Springblossom. You have to board the Hyperion. That may or may not be harder than buying what the shipyards have in stock.

Nevertheless, I do recommend testing as many ships as possible. Credits are hardly ever an issue.


I'm partial to fire-breathing serpent.

[Lea Flamma]

If you can board it, get a Hyperion.

If you can board it, I like Heavy Centaur Prototype.

From plot, I like Vidar.

Overall for purchase, Skiron.

The last advice. Go for the one that you like the looks of There is no "one best for all" ship. Borons have nice design, so do Argons. But it's just my opinion. Look for something that can mount a lot of diferent guns so that you can adapt for certain situations.

Btw, have a look here linky

[TTD]

This thread refers to two Vidars...
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=4220967

and
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=3275278

I am sure there is another thread that explains where the second is.

[ancienthighway]

You say cargo space isn't important, but by the time you load up extra weapons for swapping, jump fuel, missiles and marines, you find how important it is. You could use a Mistral (TS) or Chokaro (TM) as a support ship to fly with you, but that would drop your speed to 130m/s with the Mistral and involve a lot of cargo swapping between ships. If you are anything like me, you forget what ship you have something on.

Terran ships are difficult to equip without cloning. I tend to go with the Skiron for my M6 duties, but if I can find a Hyperion in a sector without a lot of Paranid activity, I'll give it a go.

I tend to fly a Chokaro or Zephyrus with 1or 2 Nova Raiders or Chimeras, a fast M5, and an empty slot, escorted by a Skiron or two. If I'm on a mission binge, I'll add the Iguana Vangard to the mix. The turrets on the TM and the M6s pretty much handles any fighters attacking allowing the main guns to focus on anything bigger. The M3s can be set to protect or attack as needed.

[hisazul]

I'm going to say one thing about not caring how big cargo space is. With 500 that you mentioned, you would MAYBE have enough to load all weapons and shields and that's it... you wouldn't have even space for e-cells. That is one of things that makes or breaks player ship ability to be versatile.

Other then that someone already listed ships. If you can/willing to board there is nothing out there that can outperform hyperion (both TC and AP) highest shielding, one of the highest steering, VERY generous cargo space, very nice CW selection of weapons.
Thing about TC is that most unique good ships are plot rewards. True Light Seeker if I'm not mistaken can be acquired in goner plot. Its one of the weirdest ships out there. Its m6 that has good cargo bay but really weak shields and isn't all that fast and only has 6 main guns and no turrets... sounds bad right? Thing is it can mount ANY common wealth weapon. Yes any... the only weapons that ship can't mount are utility weapons, kyons and terran weapons. Anything else is fair game.
M6 with capital ship weapons? No problem. Typically since it can't really support energy drain its good idea to stick Gaus Cannon x 6 on it... since its capital ship weapon but ammo based so has no energy drain. With that you can pretty much tear apart any medium ship long before it can get in range. If you are careful you can take on capital ships too... but just have to remember that your shields are a joke.

[MoNsTaZ]

Thanks everyone for the answers...
I am tending between the Split Dragon(or heavy dragon) the argon heavy centaur prototype and the paranide hyperion...
Their speed is over 150 m/s what is very important for me (I am used to the 160 m/s of my Elite so I don´t want to sneek around all the time ;D )

I think I am testing every ship of the 3(4) called above... So have you any tipps for me getting the Argon heavy centaur prototype?
And can you say me where I can find the heavy dragon and the Hyperion? Never found a paranid dock

Thank you all for helping me...

Sincerly MoNsTaZ

[jlehtone]

Two corporations hand out HCP as reward for serving them well. Might fly around too, ripe for boarding.

And can you say me where I can find the heavy dragon and the Hyperion? Never found a paranid dock

D: shipyards in Rhonkar's Trial, Patriarch's Conclusion, Zyarth's Dominion
Hype: might wander near Friar's Retreat

[Torpor]

Thanks everyone for the answers...
I am tending between the Split Dragon(or heavy dragon) the argon heavy centaur prototype and the paranide hyperion...
Their speed is over 150 m/s what is very important for me (I am used to the 160 m/s of my Elite so I don´t want to sneek around all the time ;D )

I think I am testing every ship of the 3(4) called above... So have you any tipps for me getting the Argon heavy centaur prototype?
And can you say me where I can find the heavy dragon and the Hyperion? Never found a paranid dock

Thank you all for helping me...

Sincerly MoNsTaZ

take a look at the skiron
149 speed is not so bad
give it 8x hept in front and 6x prg or pac in turrets, u will have a nice time in it!
the only downside the skiron has is its slow turning rate ;P

[Lea Flamma]

If you want to cap the HCP it's best to wait till it goes between Nathan's Voyage and Argon Sector M148. There is an US on the way, so any attempt will result in only him turning red and less reputation loss I think. Read some boarding guides first as it can be tricky unless you have M7M that can launch PODs already.

Paranids have their sectors down south and some west. the Hyperiom will fly around those sectors, but will rarely leave them. It might happen that for some reason it will travel between Priest Refuge and Perdition's End. There is a Pirate Sector on the way. So same as with HCP, board it there.

What most people seem to forget, Hyperion has two docking bays. So no need to drop your Fighter. I usually stock one M5 in there for scanning Roids or geting around the sector faster.

[MoNsTaZ]

So I have to capture the Hyperion too?

@Torpor ja mag zwar sein dass es stärker ist, aber ist denk ich die langsame drehrate ein echter Nachteil... ich schau mir einfach mal alle an

[jlehtone]

So I have to capture the Hyperion too?

http://www.seizewell.de/x3-tc/ships/shi ... cdesc=DESC

What does "Preis ab: nicht käuflich" mean? Not on sale.

In other words: http://www.x3wiki.com/index.php/Hyperion#Availability

[Nanook]

...
@Torpor ja mag zwar sein dass es stärker ist, aber ist denk ich die langsame drehrate ein echter Nachteil... ich schau mir einfach mal alle an

This is the English language forum. Please use the local lingo.

[MoNsTaZ]

sry, he is also nativ german
I said, that the low steer is a really problem...